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I never claimed that they represented the whole of liberals. I had claimed that the liberals who had participated in the thread up to an earlier point had not actually denounced the violence as wrong - only as counterproductive. I have also claimed (perhaps here, but certainly elsewhere) that liberals are generally less tolerant of opposing viewpoints as conservatives are, at least among the highly educated people that I interact with.
I have my theories for why this is so. I suspect, though, that you, being liberal, don't want to read them. |
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The Rule of So! Fantastic example.
So did you think that we are not going to notice that you posted that in the companion thread here a couple of days ago to show what swell fellas the Black Bloc are (and the guys in Greece too)? Mayhap you should contact your local anarchist/autonomous/anti-fascist group and see for themselves - a bit of empiricism. Just a bit? |
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Meanwhile, two nights ago: http://www.keyt.com/news/milo-yianno...poly/303247613 Not sure how this affects Jerry Brown's approval rating or how and why it relates to Sanctuary Cities. But it must, somehow, I suppose ... |
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The same way that you posted that article about the Black Bloc Boys in the other thread as evidence of what swell guys they were and told us all to contact our local anarchy collective for more information.
Now, you are here declaring that there is no such thing. Curious. |
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Wow you really couldn't understand that? Let me simplify it for you.
The average person is sick of being constantly harassed by the vocal fringe left, this caused enough social backlash that enough people in the middle of the political spectrum moved right to get the current grand wizard in chief elected. Now instead of looking at this and saying "oh **** we ********** up" the fringe left doubles down worth this immature behavior. The definition of insanity is trying the same thing and expecting different results. |
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The "average person" being Milo and his supporters?
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Yes, I can see that. I think that was my point.
The opponent will not just be 'the government' - it will be the tens of millions of self-appointed patriots, too. All those white supremacists who've been stockpiling guns for 30 years are pretty convinced that 'restoring democracy' is exactly what Trumps doing. It won't be a popular uprising - it will be a civil war in a country with a nuclear arsenal. Will it be worth it? The Russians decided it wasn't. They saw what happened in Yugoslavia and opted for dictatorship instead of mass violence. Neither, hopefully. Just realism. |
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Amazing how it never even enters their mind that it might mean: "I have no interest in wasting time with trollish idiocy".
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That would indeed be amazing because what I was in fact doing was quoting your own post right back to you in response to your request that I do so, and to which you have replied with either strawmen or emojis (except for the above sad little rant) and that is after you accused "so-called" liberals of ignorance for using the term Black Bloc in the same exact way that you did in the post I quoted.
Now, do you have any further questions about the existence of the Black Bloc, or just going to post another emoji. You have the freedom to choose. |
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I remember my first protest.
I was scared the cops would surge towards us and take us away. Now? Nothing makes my heart thunder more than seeing an amorphous mob of black fabric heading towards or hearing from around the corner, "Ah, ahn-tee, ahn-tee-cap-a-tal-ees-tah." That's probably the most reliable signal of when it's time to stop filming for a moment and make sure my gas mask is ready as I mumble to myself, "oh ****, here we go again..." |
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Actually, that's what we have in the US as well - and of course, college students that are overly strident about whatever.
But in day-to-day, it's mostly twitter trolls spewing racism, misogyny, and anti-semitism from what I can see. Still not much at the personal level, offline. ETA: as far as these Black Bloc idiots go, I learned of them (here in Maryland!) when they showed up at the Sean Bell protests back in 2009 and started trashing things. The regular protestors, of course, hated them. IOW, the idea that this is something new for the Trump Era is a joke. |
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