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Old 19th March 2019, 05:01 PM   #121
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Now the mad mustache is begging, no doubt after his new fascist friend broke it to him that the Brazilian military will never do what he demands.

So sad. Next Trump will fire him.
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Old 20th March 2019, 07:46 AM   #122
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
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Now the mad mustache is begging, no doubt after his new fascist friend broke it to him that the Brazilian military will never do what he demands.

So sad. Next Trump will fire him.
I do hope so.

Trump has a habit of firing people. In this case, getting Bolton very far removed from the levers of power would make me feel a lot safer.

Mango Mussolini has been a disaster, but he has sort of stuck to his isolationist policies and he has not started any military adventures. That still makes him a better president than Bush 2 who started two wars that are still not resolved.
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Old 20th March 2019, 04:41 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dane View Post
I do hope so.

Trump has a habit of firing people. In this case, getting Bolton very far removed from the levers of power would make me feel a lot safer.

Mango Mussolini has been a disaster, but he has sort of stuck to his isolationist policies and he has not started any military adventures. That still makes him a better president than Bush 2 who started two wars that are still not resolved.
If that's your only criterion for being better or worse. The Donald far outweighs Bush in the worst-president stakes in other ways. Many other ways.
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Old 20th March 2019, 05:03 PM   #124
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
If that's your only criterion for being better or worse. The Donald far outweighs Bush in the worst-president stakes in other ways. Many other ways.

For example he's orange. Which is offensive even compared to the hot wars Dubya has started with devastating effects including millions of deaths and mad max anarchy filled by groups like ISIS and an Al Qaeda which rose from a couple of hundreds mountain dwellers to an army.

An idiocy one must come up with on none other day than the sixteenth anniversary of the lies-born Iraq invasion, right arth?
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Old 20th March 2019, 05:19 PM   #125
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
For example he's orange. Which is offensive even compared to the hot wars Dubya has started with devastating effects including millions of deaths and mad max anarchy filled by groups like ISIS and an Al Qaeda which rose from a couple of hundreds mountain dwellers to an army.

An idiocy one must come up with on none other day than the sixteenth anniversary of the lies-born Iraq invasion, right arth?
Starting wars does indeed make a person despicable, and you are correct that Don does not outweigh Bush in that way. Being a pathological liar, adulterer and narcissistic moron also makes a person despicable, and the Don does outweigh Bush in that way. Paying off pornstars in return for silence makes a person despicable, and the Don does outweigh Bush in that way. Being party to collusion with a hostile foreign power, and then repeatedly lying about it makes a person despicable. More, it makes them a traitor. And the Don does outweigh Bush in that way.
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Old 20th March 2019, 05:26 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Starting wars does indeed make a person despicable, and you are correct that Don does not outweigh Bush in that way. Being a pathological liar, adulterer and narcissistic moron also makes a person despicable, and the Don does outweigh Bush in that way. Paying off pornstars in return for silence makes a person despicable, and the Don does outweigh Bush in that way. Being party to collusion with a hostile foreign power, and then repeatedly lying about it makes a person despicable. More, it makes them a traitor. And the Don does outweigh Bush in that way.

So orange man foul-mouthed and can't behave privately, while Dubya a polite mass-murdering psychopath. You set the priorities here.
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Old 20th March 2019, 05:37 PM   #127
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So orange man foul-mouthed and can't behave privately, while Dubya a polite mass-murdering psychopath. You set the priorities here.
Well, you know, I never said that one was better than the other in an absolute sense. They are both awful in different ways.
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On the first anniversary of Lula's imprisonment on ridiculous charges by the guy who is now "Justice Minister" under Bolsonaro, a Sao Paulo newspaper has published a letter he wrote in prison to the Brazilian people. Here is an English translation.

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Old 7th April 2019, 12:17 PM   #129
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Old 16th April 2019, 05:21 AM   #130
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Well, some of the comments from back in October/November where anticipating an imminent collapse into fascism, and the rounding up of all LGBT types into death camps.

Doesn't seem to have happened, does it ?
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Old 17th April 2019, 12:13 PM   #131
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It's still early:

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Bolsonaro during his campaign said his government would defend the “true sense of marriage” between a man and a woman, even though same-sex couples have been able to marry across Brazil since 2013. Bolsonaro after taking office issued an executive order that directed Brazil’s human rights ministry not to consider LGBTI-specific issues.
Jean Wyllys, a member of the leftist Party for Socialism and Liberty who is the first openly gay man elected to the Brazilian congress, in January resigned and fled the country because of death threats that he received. Bolsonaro tweeted “great day” after Wyllys made his announcement.
Jair Bolsonaro visits White House, reiterates opposition to LGBTI rights (Washington Blade - Covering the LGBT community since 1969, March 19, 2019)
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Old 15th June 2019, 06:11 AM   #132
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A leak published by Glenn Greenwald and The Intercept is shaking Brazil:

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It is simply the most important geopolitical story of recent times. Documents leaked to the Intercept have led to the exposure of ostensible anti-corruption Operation Lava Jato (Carwash) as a means to rig Brazil’s 2018 election, and worse still, which was carried out in conjunction with the United States Government.

And this is only the beginning, Lava Jato’s role in the impeachment of Dilma Rousseff and in enabling the selloff of Brazil’s resources and strategic companies to US corporations are all now being intensely scrutinised, as we at Brasil Wire have been doing for the past five years.

In response, widespread efforts to minimise and control the story by corporate media platforms and personnel, who for those five years have enthusiastically cheerled the operation, and its key figures Sergio Moro and Deltan Dellagnol, is a story in itself.

At time of writing the most explosive revelation is Dellagnol’s reference to collaboration with “the Americans” over the pursuit of former President Lula, and apparent urgency to prosecute him before he could stand for election once again, and inevitably win. The revelations follow an attempt earlier this year by the U.S. Department of of Justice to grant a $682 million dollar kickback to Dallagnol and his team. Illegal collaboration between Brazilian prosecutors and the U.S. is something we have presented multi-faceted evidence for over the past years, and more will be revealed over the coming weeks and months. [...]
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A leak published by Glenn Greenwald and The Intercept is shaking Brazil:
Good lord.

Very interesting.
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Old 24th June 2019, 08:10 AM   #134
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It's more or less what the Cubans have been claiming the whole time: Lula, Brazil's hope (Granma, Feb. 7, 2018)
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Fascism (broadly defined) sucks, but it usually doesn't last more than a one-leader cycle.

They overplay their hand and get killed (Hitler, Mussolini), or so brutal that they get a revolution (Salazar?), or manage to actually set up a conservative and tranquil state but get voted out before or after death (Pinochet and Franco).
I think the last one is because Fascist states are scary, but they are also boring, so young people eventually rebel.

The whole Führer-prinzip is flawed. You get one strong leader with no mechanism for succession.
Succession is always tricky in a dictatorship. If a dictator anoints a successor, that successor may decide he doesn't want to wait for the dictator to die or retire, and engineer a coup, or the dictators enemies may decide they might get a better situation from the successor and do the same. If no successor is anointed, the death of the dictator will likely result in a power struggle among potential successors, and those often get messy.
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Just because Bolsonaro has clear fascist views doesn't mean that his election turned Brazil into a fascist dictatorship. All looks like this will be only a short episode in the countries history. Let's hope that Pepe Escobar's worries that the military might take over next will not materialize and instead Lula will be freed and serious corruption investigations started - including into "meddling with other countries", i.e. the US. His piece: Brazilgate is Turning into Russiagate 2.0
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