[Continuation] Today's Mass Shooting (2) - Page 50

Checkmite · 4th July 2022, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I'd love to hear more about how they caught him--was he spotted on security cameras?

I have to imagine he was. When authorities announced his name and photo they also gave a description and a license plate number for the vehicle he was believed to be driving. It's not proscriptive but I suspect they were able to identify him because cameras caught the vehicle and plate as he escaped.

dann · Yesterday, 06:26 AM

Quote:

One of Crimo’s videos appears to be recorded by him as he waits among a crowd for a presidential motorcade to pass. Photos that appear to show Crimo attending a rally for former president Donald Trump have also surfaced, but it is not clear from his online postings that he was a supporter of Trump or any other political party or candidate.
“He was immersed in fringe internet culture. But nothing uncovered so far suggests a clear political or ideological motive,” said Emerson T. Brooking, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, which studies how information spreads online.
Man arrested in Highland Park shooting depicted violence in music videos (WP, July 5, 2022)

Really? Nothing at all?!

dann · Yesterday, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

An unknown number of people have been killed and wounded by a man with a rifle at Field's shopping center in Copenhagen

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62030919

Yes, three killed, four more in a critical condition. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62030919
But no longer reason to fear for their lives: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/seneste/al...-uden-livsfare
The shooter is well-known by the psychiatric system: https://politiken.dk/indland/art8866...-i-psykiatrien

Foster Zygote · Yesterday, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Venom

I'm starting to think less and less about gun control and more about the whole culture of violence with a good fifth to sixth of the country stuck on 1776 mode and a majority still supporting the death penalty.

It seems to be supported by a mythology of violence as well. Especially among conservatives, there's a mythos about "how the West was won" that romanticizes the strong, masculine, steely-eyed "good guy with a gun" trope that so many Americans who support open carry imagine themselves to be. Never mind that the popular conception of westward expansion is utter ********, fabricated largely by Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. The vast majority of towns in the western territories would not allow people to walk around armed.

I know that many other countries have their share of violent fiction, but it seems to me that it's regarded as fantasy fiction more than history.

ZiprHead · Yesterday, 08:42 AM

https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I

He was/is a MAGAt.

Dr.Sid · Yesterday, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by dann

Really? Nothing at all?!

I think the focus here was on "clear".

Athyrio · Yesterday, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by ZiprHead

https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I

He was/is a MAGAt.

Every time I see that face, I see Guy Fawkes.

bruto · Yesterday, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Athyrio

Every time I see that face, I see Guy Fawkes.

Guy Fawkes cosplaying Waldo.

Thermal · Yesterday, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

Guy Fawkes cosplaying Waldo.

So glad it wasn't just me that saw that.

Checkmite · Yesterday, 11:25 AM

According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. The wig possibly resulted in initial descriptions of a subject with "long black hair". After the shooting, he discarded the rifle and possibly the disguise(?), blending in with the crowd fleeing the scene. From there he walked to his mother's house which was close by and "borrowed" her car. Police used the word "borrowed" but did not elaborate. My impression from the language used was that he did not live at his mother's house.

Police have said they have found reason to believe the attack had been "planned for weeks". The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. Police found a second rifle in the car when he was arrested.

ponderingturtle · Yesterday, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I am really tron by Gun Control;I think guns are too easy to get, but I also think , with democracy in danger in the US,that guns in private hands might well be the last defense against tyranny. I am sure I am not the only thus torn.

Deregulate explosives and support wide spread understanding of how to build and use IED's. Take your fighting against the government and its military seriously and not engage in some silly fantasy that a hand gun would make a difference.

ponderingturtle · Yesterday, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Shooting at the police isn't going to save democracy, really.

Hence the need for IED's.

Steve · Yesterday, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

I'm starting to think less and less about gun control and more about the whole culture of violence with a good fifth to sixth of the country stuck on 1776 mode and a majority still supporting the death penalty.

As for rampage type shootings, as mentioned a lot here already, rampage killings big picture have been on the rise the last few decades possibly as social contagion. The mass media of recent times has made it easier to embolden this kind of killer. And within the phenomenon there are examples of white-identity extremist elements that we may start to see more of as well.

Gun violence is just one, rather destructive, manifestation of the predominantly violent society that is prevalent in the USA. Not hatred, dudalb, but definitely pity.

The Atheist · Yesterday, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by ZiprHead

https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I

He was/is a MAGAt.

Screams incel as well.

ZiprHead · Yesterday, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. The wig possibly resulted in initial descriptions of a subject with "long black hair". After the shooting, he discarded the rifle and possibly the disguise(?), blending in with the crowd fleeing the scene. From there he walked to his mother's house which was close by and "borrowed" her car. Police used the word "borrowed" but did not elaborate. My impression from the language used was that he did not live at his mother's house.

Police have said they have found reason to believe the attack had been "planned for weeks". The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. Police found a second rifle in the car when he was arrested.

He lived with his uncle.

William Parcher · Yesterday, 03:17 PM

Now 7 are dead from this shooting.

Skeptic Ginger · Yesterday, 03:38 PM

He left his gun at the scene that he had bought. Why bother with all the disguise stuff and supposed weeks of planning and then practically leave your name at the scene?

******* idiot.

Dr.Sid · Yesterday, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He left his gun at the scene that he had bought. Why bother with all the disguise stuff and supposed weeks of planning and then practically leave your name at the scene?

******* idiot.

It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?

trustbutverify · Yesterday, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by ZiprHead

https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I

He was/is a MAGAt.

Originally Posted by The Atheist

Screams incel as well.

The correlation is strong enough for an assumption.

Thermal · Yesterday, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?

True, but a proper sociopath can run basic logistics.

Cain · Yesterday, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Sid

It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?

Credit where credit is due, he managed to escape the scene with a ruse. That's not luck, it's planning. Regardless of one's effort or skill, I think capture (or death) is an inevitability for these types of very public crimes.

Checkmite · Yesterday, 04:41 PM

Failure to account for something isn't a sign of mental deficiency. He may have positively believed the gun was untraceable, which might mean he was simply mistaken rather than somehow mentally compromised.

There's also the possibility that he originally planned to take the rifle with him and was forced to make a decision on the spot to leave it for some reason, needing to prioritize escaping the scene over not leaving any evidence behind.

alfaniner · Yesterday, 04:43 PM

I'm expecting the TrumperTuckers to claim he was insane because he was a transvestite. (He used a female clothing disguise and wig to escape the rooftop and blend in with the running crowd.)

Venom · Yesterday, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Atheist

Screams incel as well.

I almost think this is more relevant than his alt-right sympathies.

This profile was very popular among rampagers before rampage shootings became politicized. Probably not surprising that these losers hang out online.

ZiprHead · Yesterday, 06:20 PM

Seven charges of first degree murder. I expect more charges to come.

alfaniner · Yesterday, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by ZiprHead

Seven charges of first degree murder. I expect more charges to come.

They did say that more charges were imminent. But I don't know how you can get more than the mandatory Life In Prison unless they had that other option.

Puppycow · Yesterday, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned.

This is the most important fact in this story.

His political sympathies and motives are secondary. I don't care if he was a leftist or a rightist, or a nihilist or a notoriety-seeker. There will always be angry men with a grudge against society and a desire to commit mass murder. If they want to commit mass murder, and can legally purchase deadly firearms, there is very little that can be done to prevent that.

trustbutverify · Yesterday, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

I'm expecting the TrumperTuckers to claim he was insane because he was a transvestite. (He used a female clothing disguise and wig to escape the rooftop and blend in with the running crowd.)

Greendouche might give that one a spin.

jimbob · Yesterday, 10:50 PM

I see reports he had domestic violence "links" but nothing specific that I can see.

But again he shouldn't have had a gun

dann · Yesterday, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event.

Did he remember to shave?
He could have avoided having to do so if he had donned niqāb instead, and Tucker Carlson and his ilk could then have claimed that he was a Muslim transvestite.

arthwollipot · Yesterday, 11:19 PM

If this guy was a transvestite, then every kid at Halloween is a superhero.

4th July 2022, 10:12 PM	#1961
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 27,678	Originally Posted by Brainster I'd love to hear more about how they caught him--was he spotted on security cameras? I have to imagine he was. When authorities announced his name and photo they also gave a description and a license plate number for the vehicle he was believed to be driving. It's not proscriptive but I suspect they were able to identify him because cameras caught the vehicle and plate as he escaped.
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Yesterday, 06:26 AM	#1962
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,653	Quote: One of Crimo’s videos appears to be recorded by him as he waits among a crowd for a presidential motorcade to pass. Photos that appear to show Crimo attending a rally for former president Donald Trump have also surfaced, but it is not clear from his online postings that he was a supporter of Trump or any other political party or candidate. “He was immersed in fringe internet culture. But nothing uncovered so far suggests a clear political or ideological motive,” said Emerson T. Brooking, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, which studies how information spreads online. Man arrested in Highland Park shooting depicted violence in music videos (WP, July 5, 2022) Really? Nothing at all?!
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Yesterday, 06:40 AM	#1963
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,653	Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller An unknown number of people have been killed and wounded by a man with a rifle at Field's shopping center in Copenhagen https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62030919 Yes, three killed, four more in a critical condition. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62030919 But no longer reason to fear for their lives: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/seneste/al...-uden-livsfare The shooter is well-known by the psychiatric system: https://politiken.dk/indland/art8866...-i-psykiatrien
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Yesterday, 08:33 AM	#1964
Foster Zygote Dental Floss Tycoon Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,794	Originally Posted by Venom I'm starting to think less and less about gun control and more about the whole culture of violence with a good fifth to sixth of the country stuck on 1776 mode and a majority still supporting the death penalty. It seems to be supported by a mythology of violence as well. Especially among conservatives, there's a mythos about "how the West was won" that romanticizes the strong, masculine, steely-eyed "good guy with a gun" trope that so many Americans who support open carry imagine themselves to be. Never mind that the popular conception of westward expansion is utter ********, fabricated largely by Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. The vast majority of towns in the western territories would not allow people to walk around armed. I know that many other countries have their share of violent fiction, but it seems to me that it's regarded as fantasy fiction more than history.
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Yesterday, 08:42 AM	#1965
ZiprHead Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 622	https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I He was/is a MAGAt.
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Yesterday, 10:04 AM	#1966
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 3,772	Originally Posted by dann Really? Nothing at all?! I think the focus here was on "clear".

Yesterday, 10:35 AM	#1967
Athyrio Hipster Doofus Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nutsack, FL Posts: 2,363	Originally Posted by ZiprHead https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I He was/is a MAGAt. Every time I see that face, I see Guy Fawkes.
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Yesterday, 10:58 AM	#1968
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 32,582	Originally Posted by Athyrio Every time I see that face, I see Guy Fawkes. Guy Fawkes cosplaying Waldo.
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Yesterday, 11:03 AM	#1969
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 19,202	Originally Posted by bruto Guy Fawkes cosplaying Waldo. So glad it wasn't just me that saw that.
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Yesterday, 11:25 AM	#1970
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 27,678	According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. The wig possibly resulted in initial descriptions of a subject with "long black hair". After the shooting, he discarded the rifle and possibly the disguise(?), blending in with the crowd fleeing the scene. From there he walked to his mother's house which was close by and "borrowed" her car. Police used the word "borrowed" but did not elaborate. My impression from the language used was that he did not live at his mother's house. Police have said they have found reason to believe the attack had been "planned for weeks". The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. Police found a second rifle in the car when he was arrested.
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Yesterday, 12:00 PM	#1971
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 52,556	Originally Posted by dudalb I am really tron by Gun Control;I think guns are too easy to get, but I also think , with democracy in danger in the US,that guns in private hands might well be the last defense against tyranny. I am sure I am not the only thus torn. Deregulate explosives and support wide spread understanding of how to build and use IED's. Take your fighting against the government and its military seriously and not engage in some silly fantasy that a hand gun would make a difference.
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Yesterday, 12:01 PM	#1972
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 52,556	Originally Posted by Checkmite Shooting at the police isn't going to save democracy, really. Hence the need for IED's.
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Yesterday, 12:53 PM	#1973
Steve Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 11,260	Originally Posted by Venom I'm starting to think less and less about gun control and more about the whole culture of violence with a good fifth to sixth of the country stuck on 1776 mode and a majority still supporting the death penalty. As for rampage type shootings, as mentioned a lot here already, rampage killings big picture have been on the rise the last few decades possibly as social contagion. The mass media of recent times has made it easier to embolden this kind of killer. And within the phenomenon there are examples of white-identity extremist elements that we may start to see more of as well. Gun violence is just one, rather destructive, manifestation of the predominantly violent society that is prevalent in the USA. Not hatred, dudalb, but definitely pity.
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Yesterday, 02:02 PM	#1974
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 31,909	Originally Posted by ZiprHead https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I He was/is a MAGAt. Screams incel as well.
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Yesterday, 02:32 PM	#1975
ZiprHead Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 622	Originally Posted by Checkmite According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. The wig possibly resulted in initial descriptions of a subject with "long black hair". After the shooting, he discarded the rifle and possibly the disguise(?), blending in with the crowd fleeing the scene. From there he walked to his mother's house which was close by and "borrowed" her car. Police used the word "borrowed" but did not elaborate. My impression from the language used was that he did not live at his mother's house. Police have said they have found reason to believe the attack had been "planned for weeks". The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. Police found a second rifle in the car when he was arrested. He lived with his uncle.
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Yesterday, 03:17 PM	#1976
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26,001	Now 7 are dead from this shooting.
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Yesterday, 03:38 PM	#1977
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,236	He left his gun at the scene that he had bought. Why bother with all the disguise stuff and supposed weeks of planning and then practically leave your name at the scene? ******* idiot.

Yesterday, 04:02 PM	#1978
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 3,772	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger He left his gun at the scene that he had bought. Why bother with all the disguise stuff and supposed weeks of planning and then practically leave your name at the scene? ******* idiot. It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?

Yesterday, 04:04 PM	#1979
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,656	Originally Posted by ZiprHead https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I He was/is a MAGAt. Originally Posted by The Atheist Screams incel as well. The correlation is strong enough for an assumption.
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Yesterday, 04:16 PM	#1980
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 19,202	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ? True, but a proper sociopath can run basic logistics.
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Yesterday, 04:26 PM	#1981
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 15,055	Originally Posted by Dr.Sid It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ? Credit where credit is due, he managed to escape the scene with a ruse. That's not luck, it's planning. Regardless of one's effort or skill, I think capture (or death) is an inevitability for these types of very public crimes.
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Yesterday, 04:41 PM	#1982
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 27,678	Failure to account for something isn't a sign of mental deficiency. He may have positively believed the gun was untraceable, which might mean he was simply mistaken rather than somehow mentally compromised. There's also the possibility that he originally planned to take the rifle with him and was forced to make a decision on the spot to leave it for some reason, needing to prioritize escaping the scene over not leaving any evidence behind.
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Yesterday, 04:43 PM	#1983
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 26,754	I'm expecting the TrumperTuckers to claim he was insane because he was a transvestite. (He used a female clothing disguise and wig to escape the rooftop and blend in with the running crowd.)
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Yesterday, 05:30 PM	#1984
Venom Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 5,850	Originally Posted by The Atheist Screams incel as well. I almost think this is more relevant than his alt-right sympathies. This profile was very popular among rampagers before rampage shootings became politicized. Probably not surprising that these losers hang out online.
	Last edited by Venom; Yesterday at 05:31 PM.

Yesterday, 06:20 PM	#1985
ZiprHead Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 622	Seven charges of first degree murder. I expect more charges to come.
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Yesterday, 06:32 PM	#1986
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 26,754	Originally Posted by ZiprHead Seven charges of first degree murder. I expect more charges to come. They did say that more charges were imminent. But I don't know how you can get more than the mandatory Life In Prison unless they had that other option.
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Yesterday, 06:49 PM	#1987
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,113	Originally Posted by Checkmite The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. This is the most important fact in this story. His political sympathies and motives are secondary. I don't care if he was a leftist or a rightist, or a nihilist or a notoriety-seeker. There will always be angry men with a grudge against society and a desire to commit mass murder. If they want to commit mass murder, and can legally purchase deadly firearms, there is very little that can be done to prevent that.
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Yesterday, 10:46 PM	#1988
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,656	Originally Posted by alfaniner I'm expecting the TrumperTuckers to claim he was insane because he was a transvestite. (He used a female clothing disguise and wig to escape the rooftop and blend in with the running crowd.) Greendouche might give that one a spin.
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Yesterday, 10:50 PM	#1989
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 26,172	I see reports he had domestic violence "links" but nothing specific that I can see. But again he shouldn't have had a gun
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Yesterday, 10:58 PM	#1990
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 16,653	Originally Posted by Checkmite According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. Did he remember to shave? He could have avoided having to do so if he had donned niqāb instead, and Tucker Carlson and his ilk could then have claimed that he was a Muslim transvestite.
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Yesterday, 11:19 PM	#1991
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 77,001	If this guy was a transvestite, then every kid at Halloween is a superhero.
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