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Old 4th July 2022, 10:12 PM   #1961
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
I'd love to hear more about how they caught him--was he spotted on security cameras?
I have to imagine he was. When authorities announced his name and photo they also gave a description and a license plate number for the vehicle he was believed to be driving. It's not proscriptive but I suspect they were able to identify him because cameras caught the vehicle and plate as he escaped.
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Old Yesterday, 06:26 AM   #1962
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One of Crimo’s videos appears to be recorded by him as he waits among a crowd for a presidential motorcade to pass. Photos that appear to show Crimo attending a rally for former president Donald Trump have also surfaced, but it is not clear from his online postings that he was a supporter of Trump or any other political party or candidate.
“He was immersed in fringe internet culture. But nothing uncovered so far suggests a clear political or ideological motive,” said Emerson T. Brooking, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, which studies how information spreads online.
Man arrested in Highland Park shooting depicted violence in music videos (WP, July 5, 2022)

Really? Nothing at all?!
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Old Yesterday, 06:40 AM   #1963
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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller View Post
An unknown number of people have been killed and wounded by a man with a rifle at Field's shopping center in Copenhagen

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62030919

Yes, three killed, four more in a critical condition. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62030919
But no longer reason to fear for their lives: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/seneste/al...-uden-livsfare
The shooter is well-known by the psychiatric system: https://politiken.dk/indland/art8866...-i-psykiatrien
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Old Yesterday, 08:33 AM   #1964
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I'm starting to think less and less about gun control and more about the whole culture of violence with a good fifth to sixth of the country stuck on 1776 mode and a majority still supporting the death penalty.
It seems to be supported by a mythology of violence as well. Especially among conservatives, there's a mythos about "how the West was won" that romanticizes the strong, masculine, steely-eyed "good guy with a gun" trope that so many Americans who support open carry imagine themselves to be. Never mind that the popular conception of westward expansion is utter ********, fabricated largely by Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. The vast majority of towns in the western territories would not allow people to walk around armed.

I know that many other countries have their share of violent fiction, but it seems to me that it's regarded as fantasy fiction more than history.
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Old Yesterday, 08:42 AM   #1965
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https://imgur.com/gallery/8twxn2I

He was/is a MAGAt.
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Old Yesterday, 10:04 AM   #1966
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Really? Nothing at all?!
I think the focus here was on "clear".
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Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post

Every time I see that face, I see Guy Fawkes.
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Originally Posted by Athyrio View Post
Every time I see that face, I see Guy Fawkes.
Guy Fawkes cosplaying Waldo.
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
Guy Fawkes cosplaying Waldo.
So glad it wasn't just me that saw that.
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According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. The wig possibly resulted in initial descriptions of a subject with "long black hair". After the shooting, he discarded the rifle and possibly the disguise(?), blending in with the crowd fleeing the scene. From there he walked to his mother's house which was close by and "borrowed" her car. Police used the word "borrowed" but did not elaborate. My impression from the language used was that he did not live at his mother's house.

Police have said they have found reason to believe the attack had been "planned for weeks". The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. Police found a second rifle in the car when he was arrested.
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I am really tron by Gun Control;I think guns are too easy to get, but I also think , with democracy in danger in the US,that guns in private hands might well be the last defense against tyranny. I am sure I am not the only thus torn.
Deregulate explosives and support wide spread understanding of how to build and use IED's. Take your fighting against the government and its military seriously and not engage in some silly fantasy that a hand gun would make a difference.
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
Shooting at the police isn't going to save democracy, really.
Hence the need for IED's.
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I'm starting to think less and less about gun control and more about the whole culture of violence with a good fifth to sixth of the country stuck on 1776 mode and a majority still supporting the death penalty.

As for rampage type shootings, as mentioned a lot here already, rampage killings big picture have been on the rise the last few decades possibly as social contagion. The mass media of recent times has made it easier to embolden this kind of killer. And within the phenomenon there are examples of white-identity extremist elements that we may start to see more of as well.
Gun violence is just one, rather destructive, manifestation of the predominantly violent society that is prevalent in the USA. Not hatred, dudalb, but definitely pity.
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Screams incel as well.
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event. The wig possibly resulted in initial descriptions of a subject with "long black hair". After the shooting, he discarded the rifle and possibly the disguise(?), blending in with the crowd fleeing the scene. From there he walked to his mother's house which was close by and "borrowed" her car. Police used the word "borrowed" but did not elaborate. My impression from the language used was that he did not live at his mother's house.

Police have said they have found reason to believe the attack had been "planned for weeks". The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned. Police found a second rifle in the car when he was arrested.
He lived with his uncle.
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Now 7 are dead from this shooting.
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He left his gun at the scene that he had bought. Why bother with all the disguise stuff and supposed weeks of planning and then practically leave your name at the scene?

******* idiot.
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He left his gun at the scene that he had bought. Why bother with all the disguise stuff and supposed weeks of planning and then practically leave your name at the scene?

******* idiot.
It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?
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Screams incel as well.
The correlation is strong enough for an assumption.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Sid View Post
It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?
True, but a proper sociopath can run basic logistics.
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It's almost like people doing this are not entirely mentally OK, right ?
Credit where credit is due, he managed to escape the scene with a ruse. That's not luck, it's planning. Regardless of one's effort or skill, I think capture (or death) is an inevitability for these types of very public crimes.
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Failure to account for something isn't a sign of mental deficiency. He may have positively believed the gun was untraceable, which might mean he was simply mistaken rather than somehow mentally compromised.

There's also the possibility that he originally planned to take the rifle with him and was forced to make a decision on the spot to leave it for some reason, needing to prioritize escaping the scene over not leaving any evidence behind.
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I'm expecting the TrumperTuckers to claim he was insane because he was a transvestite. (He used a female clothing disguise and wig to escape the rooftop and blend in with the running crowd.)
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Screams incel as well.
I almost think this is more relevant than his alt-right sympathies.

This profile was very popular among rampagers before rampage shootings became politicized. Probably not surprising that these losers hang out online.

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Seven charges of first degree murder. I expect more charges to come.
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Seven charges of first degree murder. I expect more charges to come.
They did say that more charges were imminent. But I don't know how you can get more than the mandatory Life In Prison unless they had that other option.
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The rifle used in the shooting was legally purchased and owned.
This is the most important fact in this story.

His political sympathies and motives are secondary. I don't care if he was a leftist or a rightist, or a nihilist or a notoriety-seeker. There will always be angry men with a grudge against society and a desire to commit mass murder. If they want to commit mass murder, and can legally purchase deadly firearms, there is very little that can be done to prevent that.
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I'm expecting the TrumperTuckers to claim he was insane because he was a transvestite. (He used a female clothing disguise and wig to escape the rooftop and blend in with the running crowd.)
Greendouche might give that one a spin.
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I see reports he had domestic violence "links" but nothing specific that I can see.

But again he shouldn't have had a gun
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According to the news, police have indicated that the suspect wore women's clothing and a wig as a disguise during the event.

Did he remember to shave?
He could have avoided having to do so if he had donned niqāb instead, and Tucker Carlson and his ilk could then have claimed that he was a Muslim transvestite.
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If this guy was a transvestite, then every kid at Halloween is a superhero.
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