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Old 17th September 2018, 07:27 PM   #641
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
From what I can glean, all Elon Musk said was that Unsworth 'had a child bride'.

That's a loaded statement.

Is his wife fourteen or something? If so the legal defence Musk has in the UK, is that it is, 'fair comment'.
Read the Guardian article if you actually want to learn about what you are commenting on. In fact libel suits exist exactly because untrue statements can damage people’s reputation in the eyes of readers who are ignorant of the facts.
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Old 18th September 2018, 12:32 AM   #642
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
From what I can glean, all Elon Musk said was that Unsworth 'had a child bride'.

That's a loaded statement.

Is his wife fourteen or something? If so the legal defence Musk has in the UK, is that it is, 'fair comment'.
If no one else is going to actually say it

No

He called him a "peado", "child rapist", sex trafficking liar, who married a 12 year old .
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Old 18th September 2018, 12:59 AM   #643
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
If no one else is going to actually say it

No

He called him a "peado", "child rapist", sex trafficking liar, who married a 12 year old .
And it is in every article about him suing Musk today, there is no way anyone can't know this if they have read any news report about Musk being sued for defamation.
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Old 18th September 2018, 01:43 AM   #644
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
And it is in every article about him suing Musk today, there is no way anyone can't know this if they have read any news report about Musk being sued for defamation.
Indeed
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Old 18th September 2018, 06:39 AM   #645
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I don't know about the rest of you, but if I were on a jury deciding damages in such a case where a fish faced billionaire used his bully pulpit to libel an ordinary person doing good deeds, I'd award a lot more than $75k. I'd get really punitive, along the lines of 50% of everything he's got. Just because people have lots of money is no reason they can behave like insane sociopathic toddlers.
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Old 18th September 2018, 07:00 AM   #646
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I don't know about the rest of you, but if I were on a jury deciding damages in such a case where a fish faced billionaire used his bully pulpit to libel an ordinary person doing good deeds, I'd award a lot more than $75k. I'd get really punitive, along the lines of 50% of everything he's got. Just because people have lots of money is no reason they can behave like insane sociopathic toddlers.
Probably. I expect Musk does not want this court case to drag out and will try to settle out of court.

I only wonder what will happen next on Twitter as he will probably be goaded into remarking on the case again.
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Old 18th September 2018, 07:09 AM   #647
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Unless Musk is sitting on a pile of secret proof of his allegations, that he would've inexplicably not share with anyone even though it would vindicate him, he's demonstrating the attitude of an ignorant bigot.

He's British guy living in Thailand. Why would he do that? Yeah that's right: he's a pedo. Only pedophiles would want to travel to Thailand let alone live there. They could never have been fascinated and interested in the country because of the food, environment or anything like that.

Even here in Sweden, in a medium sized city that's far from the Stockholm, there's quite a few people from Thailand and ordering Thai takeout is easy (it's almost certainly Thai people that cook). Is not hard to become interested about he country.
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Old 18th September 2018, 07:12 AM   #648
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The fact that Unsworth has been living with an adult Thai woman (now 40) for 7 years doesn't prove he isn't a 'pedo', of course, but it may be grist to the mill in this case.

The Sun article

On other news, Musk is back to pushing BFR trips around the moon and the need for a self-sufficient Mars colony.
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Old 18th September 2018, 10:47 AM   #649
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Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
The fact that Unsworth has been living with an adult Thai woman (now 40) for 7 years doesn't prove he isn't a 'pedo', of course, but it may be grist to the mill in this case.

The Sun article

On other news, Musk is back to pushing BFR trips around the moon and the need for a self-sufficient Mars colony.
At the moment there is no reason to think it's anything other than sour grapes by someone who got told where to take his stupid idea by someone working under pressure and without the traditional Thai reluctance to cause someone to lose face (which Musk seemed to have assumed meant agreement)
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Old 18th September 2018, 11:44 AM   #650
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I don't know about the rest of you, but if I were on a jury deciding damages in such a case where a fish faced billionaire used his bully pulpit to libel an ordinary person doing good deeds, I'd award a lot more than $75k. I'd get really punitive, along the lines of 50% of everything he's got. Just because people have lots of money is no reason they can behave like insane sociopathic toddlers.
I have to say when I first read what Musk tweeted I thought "whoa, dude, that's totally uncalled for"! Keep it nice. Go for something a little more generic and gender neutral, like dickhead.
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Old 11th May 2019, 02:37 AM   #651
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The case against Musk is going to court.

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A federal court judge in Los Angeles set a 22 October trial date on Friday in a filing that rejected the Tesla chief’s attempt to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by the British diver Vernon Unsworth.

Musk called Unsworth a “pedo” in a 15 July post on his Twitter account after the diver, in an interview with CNN, dismissed the tech multibillionaire’s attempts to help rescue the football players as a “PR stunt”. Unsworth also derided the submarine that Musk had built for a rescue mission. The comments prompted Musk to lash out at Unsworth via his Twitter account, which at the time had 22.5 million followers.

Musk contended his insult was protected from legal action, but the judge overseeing the case disagreed.
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Old 11th May 2019, 07:07 AM   #652
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
If no one else is going to actually say it

No

He called him a "peado", "child rapist", sex trafficking liar, who married a 12 year old .
Sorry, if his wife has reached puberty, then it is not 'paedophilia' (sexual attraction towards children) although it might well be against the law.

It gets on my nerves when the press keep calling a certain footballer a 'paedo' after having being jailed for having sex with a fifteen-year-old. Presumably, physiologically she is an adult, not a child.
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Old 11th May 2019, 09:50 PM   #653
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Sorry, if his wife has reached puberty, then it is not 'paedophilia' (sexual attraction towards children) although it might well be against the law.

It gets on my nerves when the press keep calling a certain footballer a 'paedo' after having being jailed for having sex with a fifteen-year-old. Presumably, physiologically she is an adult, not a child.


Musk called him a pedo. The press didn't.
And the accusation is that he married a twelve year old who he'd been ogling in the village for a while, so arguably "paedophilia".

The accusation is nonsense. His long-term girlfriend is considerably younger than he is, but when they met, I think she was 30. They've been together for years.

Other than that, excellent post. Always share your brainfarts with us; they're entertaining.
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
The penalty is too small. I wanted him sued in Thai courts where he could go to jail for his big mouth AND lose money. Unfortunately, Musk would just never show up here, though, so it'd never be acted upon.
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I would have expected him to settle out of court by throwing an obscene amount of money at it.
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This was in the news a couple of weeks ago. I meant to post it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48103781

Jon Chu directing is pretty good news.

There's a local production that did not get the blessing of the boys or their representatives. It supposedly finished lensing in December but if it's in post-production, they've made no announcement about finding a distributor or studio to take ownership. A lot of grousing about the film in local media. It's put together by a contingent of farang who were involved in one previous film, has all westerner production and a whole lot of anonymous characters because they couldn't use the actual names.
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
Excellent news.

Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
I would have expected him to settle out of court by throwing an obscene amount of money at it.
That ego? Not a chance.
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