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Old 22nd February 2019, 10:16 AM   #1
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Patriots Owner Robert Kraft Arrested in Prostitution Sting

Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution



In more ways than one, it appears that the Patriots season did in fact have a happy ending.



Originally Posted by cbs news
Updated on: February 22, 2019 / 12:14 PM / CBS News


New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft is being charged with the solicitation of a prostitute, Jupiter police say, CBS Miami reported. The charges stem from a months long investigation into a massage parlor.



"We're as equally stunned as anyone else," said police during a Friday morning news conference. They also said they have video evidence capturing the sex act.


Kraft's name is on the list of 25 people who will face charges in connection to a crackdown on human trafficking and spa sex acts.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 10:19 AM   #2
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ESPN just blew up with this.

I can’t really manufacture much outrage about seeing a prostitute, except the trafficking factor of the establishment if that is occurring.

Old rich dude pays for a handy isn’t really news.
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ESPN just blew.....
Kraft?
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Can't believe prostitution is still illegal, though. As if it's my business if people pay other people for sex.
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Mmmmmm.....Patriot missile
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And I thought I heard Kraft stalk went down...
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Can't believe prostitution is still illegal, though. As if it's my business if people pay other people for sex.
Agreed. It’s ridiculous, particularly in the land of the free.
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How does one rebut charges like this, when one is known for surreptitious videos and flat balls?
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Jussie Smollett exhales with relief. No longer on the front page.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 10:44 AM   #10
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Well, there is the juxtaposition of poor human trafficking victims having to tug on this very rich man's schwanz.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 10:47 AM   #11
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Agreed. It’s ridiculous, particularly in the land of the free.
You have maximum freedom when you can choose to keep the law or choose to drop the law.
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Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida.
Typically these would have Chinese immigrant prostitutes. Some may not be legal immigrants. It's also not uncommon for your hooker to be over 40 years old.
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Seriously, the dude's a billionaire and he's busted at a neighborhood rub-n-tug? The kind of place the exists solely to feature on the local news for its monthly raid?

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I can’t really manufacture much outrage about seeing a prostitute, except the trafficking factor of the establishment if that is occurring.
After giggling for a few minutes, I'm on the same boat. I couldn't careless what a grown adult does, but I'm concerned with the fact that those women (in some cases girls) may not be there willingly. But, is that merely a result of the service being illegal to begin with?
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I couldn't careless
Careful, there.
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If this is a place of human trafficking then something is upside-down because they are arresting johns instead of the madam.
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Why would the owner of one of the most successful and profitable sports teams in modern history even be at a second rate strip mall "Asian Massage" parlor between an nail salon and a Thai restaurant in Jupiter, Florida?

Dude this rich doesn't have Heidi Fleiss's number or something?
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Also I wonder if there's any connection to the SEC Investigation launched against Kraft-Heinz the morning.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Why would the owner of one of the most successful and profitable sports teams in modern history even be at a second rate strip mall "Asian Massage" parlor between an nail salon and a Thai restaurant in Jupiter, Florida?

Dude this rich doesn't have Heidi Fleiss's number or something?
I wondered the same thing and thought...

Extreme convenience?
He thinks it's less risky?
Chinese fetish?
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Can't believe prostitution is still illegal, though. As if it's my business if people pay other people for sex.
Ted: "Officer, I am about to have sex with this woman."
Officer: "Is the woman agreeing?"
Ted: "Oh absolutely!"
Officer: "Well good luck and a fine day to you Sir!"
Ted: "But... I'm going to give her money."
Officer: "Well know that complicates things. Are you giving her the money for sex?"
Ted: "Well let's say I just give her money and by pure coincidence she agrees to have sex with me?"
Officer: "Well I suppose that would be okay."
Ted: "But if we were to implicitly agree to trade sex for money..."
Officer: "Then it becomes illegal..."
Ted: "... but we film it."
Officer: "Legal again!"
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all kinda flies in the face of the gillette ad. irony.
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Can't believe prostitution is still illegal, though. As if it's my business if people pay other people for sex.
There should probably be a different term for this to separate it from prostitution due to the sex trafficking aspect. He was basically offering to pay to rape the victim of sex trafficking.
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I wondered the same thing and thought...

Extreme convenience?
He thinks it's less risky?
Chinese fetish?
I mean... maybe people are weird and don't always make rational decision but I'm going to assume high end Chinese prostitutes are a thing that exists and as noted I don't buy the "less risky" since these places only seem to exist to get busted by the police.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Ted: "Officer, I am about to have sex with this woman."
Officer: "Is the woman agreeing?"
Ted: "Oh absolutely!"
Officer: "Well good luck and a fine day to you Sir!"
Ted: "But... I'm going to give her money."
Officer: "Well know that complicates things. Are you giving her the money for sex?"
Ted: "Well let's say I just give her money and by pure coincidence she agrees to have sex with me?"
Officer: "Well I suppose that would be okay."
Ted: "But if we were to implicitly agree to trade sex for money..."
Officer: "Then it becomes illegal..."
Ted: "... but we film it."
Officer: "Legal again!"


This perfectly captures the lunacy of all this. Is that yours?
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There should probably be a different term for this to separate it from prostitution due to the sex trafficking aspect. He was basically offering to pay to rape the victim of sex trafficking.
Agreed. We're really talking about "rape set up by a third party" when we're talking about later and that is an entirely different kettle of fish.
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There should probably be a different term for this to separate it from prostitution due to the sex trafficking aspect. He was basically offering to pay to rape the victim of sex trafficking.
I think the term you're looking for is "sex trafficking".
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This perfectly captures the lunacy of all this. Is that yours?
Yes, although I've heard the "It's not prostitution if you're filming it, it's porn" setup for jokes before.
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Actually now that I think of it some jurisdiction has surely tried at some point to bust a porn studio for being a form of prostitution. Wonder if the courts have ever ruled on this. I don't want to search anything with "porn" in it at work to find out.
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GIves all new meaning to the term "The Patriot Way".
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
I don't buy the "less risky"
What about the words that I put in front of "less risky"?
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Actually now that I think of it some jurisdiction has surely tried at some point to bust a porn studio for being a form of prostitution. Wonder if the courts have ever ruled on this. I don't want to search anything with "porn" in it at work to find out.
I'm pretty sure that distinction was used as the plot of a Law & Order episode (as if that weren't true of almost any topic...)
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Seriously, the dude's a billionaire and he's busted at a neighborhood rub-n-tug? The kind of place the exists solely to feature on the local news for its monthly raid?
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Same thing with Harvey Weinstein. Both he and Kraft are rich enough to hire the most expensive, high class, discreet call girls in the business, but thet get busted for doing it in the open. Just incredible.
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My guess would be that professional porn isn't prostitution because the actor isn't paying the actress for sex.
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Talk about a quick fall from grace... in under 3 weeks from picking up the Lombardi trophy to this.
Let's face it, a lot of people who don't like, or are just sick and tired of the Patriots, are getting some Schandefreud from this. I admit I sort of chuckled when I first saw the story.
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Also I wonder if there's any connection to the SEC Investigation launched against Kraft-Heinz the morning.
Just in case you're serious - Robert Kraft doesn't have anything to do with Kraft-Heinz.
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None of these prostitutes had any clue who he was.
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Talk about a quick fall from grace... in under 3 weeks from picking up the Lombardi trophy to this.
Let's face it, a lot of people who don't like, or are just sick and tired of the Patriots, are getting some Schandefreud from this. I admit I sort of chuckled when I first saw the story.
But those people are still going to have to witness the Patriots win more Super Bowls.
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Also I wonder if there's any connection to the SEC Investigation launched against Kraft-Heinz the morning.
Different Kraft. This person is associated with the Kraft Group:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Group
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But those people are still going to have to witness the Patriots win more Super Bowls.
Wait, you mean his team won't be dissolved after this?
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