Belgian city of Aalst says anti-Semitic parade 'just fun'

Puppycow · 24th February 2020, 07:59 AM

This is really bizarre to me, to see such flagrant anti-semitism on display in Europe in this century. What is going on here? Clearly something more than "just fun".

Belgian city of Aalst says anti-Semitic parade 'just fun'

The Don · 24th February 2020, 10:06 AM

Meh, it's only childless leftists like me who are triggered by this. I find both the mockery of orthodox Jews and the cheering of fake Nazis in poor taste.

Real men hold free speech above all rights other than that to own guns (or gnus, I forget

) and would have no problems with it at all.

TragicMonkey · 24th February 2020, 10:21 AM

Is Belgium the place they put all the people who were too rude for France?

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 11:40 AM

Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival?

As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says:

Originally Posted by Carnival of Aalst

In 2019, the carnival group De Vismooil'n entered a float that depicted two Orthodox Jews with hook noses and beards, wearing shtreimels (the fur hats worn by some Hassidic Jews), standing amid bags of cash and guarding a safe, one with a rat on his shoulder. The title of the float was "Sabbatical Year", in reference to the carnival group's decision to save money by recycling elements of previous displays, with a pun on "sabbath" and the anti-Semitic trope of Jewish miserliness. The same figures had been used the year before, then representing crusaders, and one hook-nosed head had originally been created as a caricature of a local far-right politician.

Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did.

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 12:14 PM

Just so you understand what this is about, here is a video from the parade that happened yesterday.

late edit: The "anti-semitic" group comes around the corner at 7 minutes into the video, followed by what apparently is an "anti-osmanic" group and many other outrages.

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Mycroft · 24th February 2020, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival?

As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says:

Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did.

Anti-semitism is okay because mocking Jews is no different from mocking Nazis and public figures.

Got it.

Arcade22 · 24th February 2020, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Is Belgium the place they put all the people who were too rude for France?

This is in the Flemish part of the country, so if anyone's to be blamed it's the Dutch.

Arcade22 · 24th February 2020, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival?

As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says:

Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did.

It's possible to make fun of jews without coming off as a anti-semite.

plague311 · 24th February 2020, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Arcade22

This is in the Flemish part of the country, so if anyone's to be blamed it's the Dutch.

Whatever, Austin Power's Dad.

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Arcade22

It's possible to make fun of jews without coming off as a anti-semite.

Evidence?

theprestige · 24th February 2020, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Arcade22

It's possible to make fun of jews without coming off as a anti-semite.

I've got a book about humor in Nazi Germany. There's a whole chapter on jokes Jews would tell each other, finding humor in their grim circumstances.

Here's one example (my paraphrase, not verbatim from the book):

Two German Jews cross paths in Sub-Saharan Africa. "Shlomo!" says one. "I'm glad to see you, old friend! But what are you doing here in Africa?"

"Well," replies Shlomo. "I came here to seek my fortune. My plan is to hunt elephants and profit from the ivory trade. But what a coincidence that you are here as well! What's your story?"

"Much the same as yours," says Baruch. " I'm here in Africa to make a fortune trapping crocodiles and selling their hides. But what about Ezra?"

"Oh, Ezra! He likes to live on the wild side. He stayed in Germany!"

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I've got a book about humor in Nazi Germany. There's a whole chapter on jokes Jews would tell each other, finding humor in their grim circumstances.

Here's one example (my paraphrase, not verbatim from the book):

Two German Jews cross paths in Sub-Saharan Africa. "Shlomo!" says one. "I'm glad to see you, old friend! But what are you doing here in Africa?"

"Well," replies Shlomo. "I came here to seek my fortune. My plan is to hunt elephants and profit from the ivory trade. But what a coincidence that you are here as well! What's your story?"

"Much the same as yours," says Baruch. " I'm here in Africa to make a fortune trapping crocodiles and selling their hides. But what about Ezra?"

"Oh, Ezra! He likes to live on the wild side. He stayed in Germany!"

We all know that Jews like to make fun of each other. Can you tell me any scenario more harmless than this one, with a city nobody heard about except maybe for their centuries long anarchic carnival tradition ruthlessly mocking everything, where a street carnival group in financial troubles decided to recycle their hook-nosed figures as Jews making some jokes on stereotypes? Who exactly can make fun of Jews (if they aren't Jews) without "coming off" as "anti-semitic" if not these people?

I Am The Scum · 24th February 2020, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival?

As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says:

Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did.

You're whining in this very post.

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by I Am The Scum

You're whining in this very post.

Not even closely.

carlitos · 24th February 2020, 01:46 PM

A serious comment on this parade accompanied a video of people dressed in ridiculous nazi costumes and pippi longstocking braids as "nazi officers marching in Belgium again." Get a grip.

Nazi Officers Marching in Belgium Again:

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

A serious comment on this parade accompanied a photo of people dressed in ridiculous nazi costumes and pippi longstocking braids as "nazi officers marching in Belgium again." Get a grip.

Nazi Officers Marching in Belgium Again:

https://i.imgur.com/YuZkHLX.jpg

Do we see the "cheering of fake Nazis" here as The Don fantasized after reading the BBC propaganda, or is it something else? Will the ghost of Ernst Röhm be flattered? And how will the average Nazi watching Belgian carnival parades react?

Get a grip indeed.

smartcooky · 24th February 2020, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

A serious comment on this parade accompanied a video of people dressed in ridiculous nazi costumes and pippi longstocking braids as "nazi officers marching in Belgium again." Get a grip.

Nazi Officers Marching in Belgium Again:

https://i.imgur.com/YuZkHLX.jpg

This looks more like taking the piss out of Nazis and of anti-semitism

theprestige · 24th February 2020, 02:28 PM

I'm not going to pass judgement on what the Aalstenaar do for fun in their own city. But I'm sure as hell not going to try to excuse it or justify it, either.

theprestige · 24th February 2020, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

This looks more like taking the piss out of Nazis and of anti-semitism

Taking the piss out of something extremely offensive by presenting an extreme example of it is difficult to get right. Also, if your attempt at satire fails, "I was only pretending to be retarded" is almost never going to rescue it.

dudalb · 24th February 2020, 02:38 PM

And the Belgian PM had a Jewish Mother. Not a smart move, guys.....
And that probably drives the Ghost of Leon Degrille insane....

smartcooky · 24th February 2020, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Taking the piss out of something extremely offensive by presenting an extreme example of it is difficult to get right. Also, if your attempt at satire fails, "I was only pretending to be retarded" is almost never going to rescue it.

I agree.

I think they need to take lessons from Monty Python or Hale & Pace... they were all very, very good at making light and taking the piss of offensive ideas, keeping it funny, without being offensive themselves.

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Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

I agree.

I think they need to take lessons from Monty Python or Hale & Pace... they were all very, very good at making light and taking the piss of offensive ideas, keeping it funny, without being offensive themselves.

I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central.

Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable.

sackett · 24th February 2020, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central.

Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable.

Go sharpen the Pikel on your Haube.

Mycroft · 24th February 2020, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central.

Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable.

One thing going on is anti-Semitism. Excuse it or minimize it all you want, that's still what it is.

Puppycow · 24th February 2020, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central.

Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable.

Clearly they are not doing "just fine" when they are doubling down on an offensive stereotype. This is like a white person putting on blackface and doing a minstrel show routine and then complaining about being called a racist.

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Clearly they are not doing "just fine" when they are doubling down on an offensive stereotype. This is like a white person putting on blackface and doing a minstrel show routine and then complaining about being called a racist.

They are doing just fine telling the UNESCO to go where the sun doesn't shine and after outrage-mongering just continue to do what they do despite BBC propaganda and your robotic "concerns" about it. Nobody is impressed, everybody is amused.

theprestige · 24th February 2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mycroft

One thing going on is anti-Semitism. Excuse it or minimize it all you want, that's still what it is.

Yeah, but it's the "just for fun" kind of anti-Semitism. Not the serious, for realsies kind.

Childlike Empress · 24th February 2020, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Yeah, but it's the "just for fun" kind of anti-Semitism. Not the serious, for realsies kind.

See #11,#12,#18,#19.

LOL

dudalb · 24th February 2020, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

I agree.

I think they need to take lessons from Monty Python or Hale & Pace... they were all very, very good at making light and taking the piss of offensive ideas, keeping it funny, without being offensive themselves.

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Add Mel Brooks to that list....

caveman1917 · 25th February 2020, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

This looks more like taking the piss out of Nazis and of anti-semitism

It's taking the piss out of the Flemish far-right nationalist party NVA in specific. They're satirical representations of various NVA politicians in Nazi outfits.

carlitos · 25th February 2020, 07:37 AM

Shh, don’t tell anyone that.

24th February 2020, 07:59 AM	#1
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24th February 2020, 10:21 AM	#3
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24th February 2020, 11:40 AM	#4
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival? As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says: Originally Posted by Carnival of Aalst In 2019, the carnival group De Vismooil'n entered a float that depicted two Orthodox Jews with hook noses and beards, wearing shtreimels (the fur hats worn by some Hassidic Jews), standing amid bags of cash and guarding a safe, one with a rat on his shoulder. The title of the float was "Sabbatical Year", in reference to the carnival group's decision to save money by recycling elements of previous displays, with a pun on "sabbath" and the anti-Semitic trope of Jewish miserliness. The same figures had been used the year before, then representing crusaders, and one hook-nosed head had originally been created as a caricature of a local far-right politician. Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did.
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24th February 2020, 12:26 PM	#6
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,819	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival? As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says: Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did. Anti-semitism is okay because mocking Jews is no different from mocking Nazis and public figures. Got it.
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24th February 2020, 12:37 PM	#7
Arcade22 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,823	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Is Belgium the place they put all the people who were too rude for France? This is in the Flemish part of the country, so if anyone's to be blamed it's the Dutch.
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24th February 2020, 10:06 AM	#2
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,658	Meh, it's only childless leftists like me who are triggered by this. I find both the mockery of orthodox Jews and the cheering of fake Nazis in poor taste. Real men hold free speech above all rights other than that to own guns (or gnus, I forget ) and would have no problems with it at all.

24th February 2020, 12:39 PM	#8
Arcade22 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,823	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival? As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says: Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did. It's possible to make fun of jews without coming off as a anti-semite.
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24th February 2020, 12:44 PM	#9
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 8,844	Originally Posted by Arcade22 This is in the Flemish part of the country, so if anyone's to be blamed it's the Dutch. Whatever, Austin Power's Dad.
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24th February 2020, 12:54 PM	#10
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by Arcade22 It's possible to make fun of jews without coming off as a anti-semite. Evidence?
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24th February 2020, 12:57 PM	#11
theprestige Penultimate Amazing FLA Winner 12/20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 50,694	Originally Posted by Arcade22 It's possible to make fun of jews without coming off as a anti-semite. I've got a book about humor in Nazi Germany. There's a whole chapter on jokes Jews would tell each other, finding humor in their grim circumstances. Here's one example (my paraphrase, not verbatim from the book): Two German Jews cross paths in Sub-Saharan Africa. "Shlomo!" says one. "I'm glad to see you, old friend! But what are you doing here in Africa?" "Well," replies Shlomo. "I came here to seek my fortune. My plan is to hunt elephants and profit from the ivory trade. But what a coincidence that you are here as well! What's your story?" "Much the same as yours," says Baruch. " I'm here in Africa to make a fortune trapping crocodiles and selling their hides. But what about Ezra?" "Oh, Ezra! He likes to live on the wild side. He stayed in Germany!"

24th February 2020, 01:08 PM	#12
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by theprestige I've got a book about humor in Nazi Germany. There's a whole chapter on jokes Jews would tell each other, finding humor in their grim circumstances. Here's one example (my paraphrase, not verbatim from the book): Two German Jews cross paths in Sub-Saharan Africa. "Shlomo!" says one. "I'm glad to see you, old friend! But what are you doing here in Africa?" "Well," replies Shlomo. "I came here to seek my fortune. My plan is to hunt elephants and profit from the ivory trade. But what a coincidence that you are here as well! What's your story?" "Much the same as yours," says Baruch. " I'm here in Africa to make a fortune trapping crocodiles and selling their hides. But what about Ezra?" "Oh, Ezra! He likes to live on the wild side. He stayed in Germany!" We all know that Jews like to make fun of each other. Can you tell me any scenario more harmless than this one, with a city nobody heard about except maybe for their centuries long anarchic carnival tradition ruthlessly mocking everything, where a street carnival group in financial troubles decided to recycle their hook-nosed figures as Jews making some jokes on stereotypes? Who exactly can make fun of Jews (if they aren't Jews) without "coming off" as "anti-semitic" if not these people?
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24th February 2020, 01:40 PM	#13
I Am The Scum Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4,577	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Can you puritanical sectarians stay away from a good catholic carnival? As the article says, it's a doubling down from the previous year so what happened there must be taken into consideration first. wikipedia says: Oh, how terrible. And that cost them their UNESCO world heritage status so this year we got this. Maybe if the Jews don't like to be parodied as whining, they should stop it and take it like a boss as the other mocked entities like the Nazis, the Queen, Jesus and even Saint Greta Thunberg apparently did. You're whining in this very post.

24th February 2020, 01:42 PM	#14
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by I Am The Scum You're whining in this very post. Not even closely.
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24th February 2020, 01:46 PM	#15
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 22,876	A serious comment on this parade accompanied a video of people dressed in ridiculous nazi costumes and pippi longstocking braids as "nazi officers marching in Belgium again." Get a grip. Nazi Officers Marching in Belgium Again:
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24th February 2020, 01:50 PM	#16
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by carlitos A serious comment on this parade accompanied a photo of people dressed in ridiculous nazi costumes and pippi longstocking braids as "nazi officers marching in Belgium again." Get a grip. Nazi Officers Marching in Belgium Again: https://i.imgur.com/YuZkHLX.jpg Do we see the "cheering of fake Nazis" here as The Don fantasized after reading the BBC propaganda, or is it something else? Will the ghost of Ernst Röhm be flattered? And how will the average Nazi watching Belgian carnival parades react? Get a grip indeed.
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smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 17,256	Originally Posted by carlitos A serious comment on this parade accompanied a video of people dressed in ridiculous nazi costumes and pippi longstocking braids as "nazi officers marching in Belgium again." Get a grip. Nazi Officers Marching in Belgium Again: https://i.imgur.com/YuZkHLX.jpg This looks more like taking the piss out of Nazis and of anti-semitism
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24th February 2020, 02:28 PM	#18
theprestige Penultimate Amazing FLA Winner 12/20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 50,694	I'm not going to pass judgement on what the Aalstenaar do for fun in their own city. But I'm sure as hell not going to try to excuse it or justify it, either.

24th February 2020, 02:31 PM	#19
theprestige Penultimate Amazing FLA Winner 12/20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 50,694	Originally Posted by smartcooky This looks more like taking the piss out of Nazis and of anti-semitism Taking the piss out of something extremely offensive by presenting an extreme example of it is difficult to get right. Also, if your attempt at satire fails, "I was only pretending to be retarded" is almost never going to rescue it.

24th February 2020, 02:38 PM	#20
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24th February 2020, 02:58 PM	#22
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by smartcooky I agree. I think they need to take lessons from Monty Python or Hale & Pace... they were all very, very good at making light and taking the piss of offensive ideas, keeping it funny, without being offensive themselves. I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central. Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable.
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24th February 2020, 03:34 PM	#23
sackett Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 6,447	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central. Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable. Go sharpen the Pikel on your Haube.
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24th February 2020, 03:35 PM	#24
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,819	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central. Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable. One thing going on is anti-Semitism. Excuse it or minimize it all you want, that's still what it is.
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24th February 2020, 04:03 PM	#25
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 25,917	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress I think they are doing just fine without some "smart" advise from what is known as humour south central. Having grown up a catholic in a village with strong carnival tradition only a cruise missile shot away from Aalst (and unaware of its existence before last year's "outrage"), loving it as a child, hating it as a teenager and being gone as an adult, I know you can't even begin to understand what is going on there in that parade. Adorable. Clearly they are not doing "just fine" when they are doubling down on an offensive stereotype. This is like a white person putting on blackface and doing a minstrel show routine and then complaining about being called a racist.
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24th February 2020, 04:10 PM	#26
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by Puppycow Clearly they are not doing "just fine" when they are doubling down on an offensive stereotype. This is like a white person putting on blackface and doing a minstrel show routine and then complaining about being called a racist. They are doing just fine telling the UNESCO to go where the sun doesn't shine and after outrage-mongering just continue to do what they do despite BBC propaganda and your robotic "concerns" about it. Nobody is impressed, everybody is amused.
	__________________ If they want the pandemic to end, they just have to stop testing. Then people will die of the flu again, like they did before - Wolfgang Wodarg Last edited by Childlike Empress; 24th February 2020 at 04:13 PM.

24th February 2020, 04:15 PM	#27
theprestige Penultimate Amazing FLA Winner 12/20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 50,694	Originally Posted by Mycroft One thing going on is anti-Semitism. Excuse it or minimize it all you want, that's still what it is. Yeah, but it's the "just for fun" kind of anti-Semitism. Not the serious, for realsies kind.

24th February 2020, 04:22 PM	#28
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 19,107	Originally Posted by theprestige Yeah, but it's the "just for fun" kind of anti-Semitism. Not the serious, for realsies kind. See #11,#12,#18,#19. LOL
	__________________ If they want the pandemic to end, they just have to stop testing. Then people will die of the flu again, like they did before - Wolfgang Wodarg

25th February 2020, 04:38 AM	#30
caveman1917 Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 8,085	Originally Posted by smartcooky This looks more like taking the piss out of Nazis and of anti-semitism It's taking the piss out of the Flemish far-right nationalist party NVA in specific. They're satirical representations of various NVA politicians in Nazi outfits.
caveman1917 Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 8,085	__________________ "Ideas are also weapons." - Subcomandante Marcos "We must devastate the avenues where the wealthy live." - Lucy Parsons "Let us therefore trust the eternal Spirit which destroys and annihilates only because it is the unfathomable and eternal source of all life. The passion for destruction is a creative passion, too!" - Mikhail Bakunin

25th February 2020, 07:37 AM	#31
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 22,876	Shh, don’t tell anyone that.