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Old 11th June 2019, 05:30 PM   #1
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'Culturally significant' handprints may be fake

This is an interesting case, my own view is that in this case the best option is to assume the artifacts are real, until a full investigation is done.


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Multiple red hand prints found in a cave near Glenbrook train station, that an expert said were Indigenous and "culturally significant", have been exposed as fakes created by teenage brothers in the 1960s.


The rock art was discovered during work to remove a 20-tonne boulder that threatened the Blue Mountains railway line, west of Sydney, in late March. It extended the weeks of delays on the train line as buses replaced services.




An archaeologist, with a specialty in Indigenous heritage, said at the time that the hand prints were "culturally significant".

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...ake/ar-AACJjfC
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Old 11th June 2019, 09:01 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Graham2001 View Post
This is an interesting case, my own view is that in this case the best option is to assume the artifacts are real, until a full investigation is done.





https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...ake/ar-AACJjfC
Fair play and big ups to the bloke for owning up and writing the letter.

Obviously does care that historical record isn't messed with
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Old 12th June 2019, 07:26 PM   #3
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Culturally significant? What a 13 year old can do in an afternoon?
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Old 12th June 2019, 07:49 PM   #4
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Sooner or later, teenaged pranksters get caught red handed.
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Old 12th June 2019, 11:49 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
Culturally significant? What a 13 year old can do in an afternoon?
If they were real, yes

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Culturally significant? What a 13 year old can do in an afternoon?
Well the technique for creating red ochre handprints is pretty simple and after a few years there'd be little to distinguish them from handprints that are hundreds or maybe even tens of thousands of years old at least for an initial investigation.
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Old 13th June 2019, 06:36 AM   #7
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Well the technique for creating red ochre handprints is pretty simple and after a few years there'd be little to distinguish them from handprints that are hundreds or maybe even tens of thousands of years old at least for an initial investigation.

Except if I'm reading various sources correctly, the aboriginal technique created (technically) a stencil rather than a contact print. The ochre was "sprayed" (by blowing it from the mouth) around the hand, leaving the shape of the hand as blank rock outlined by a halo of pigment. Whereas the kids just put the ochre on their hands and made prints.
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Old 13th June 2019, 07:41 AM   #8
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Yes, but that wouldn't have meant it wasn't a significant find, had it been real.

It just means that maybe they should have spent a little more time checking.
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