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Old 4th February 2018, 04:02 PM   #2961
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No problem, I often delete my own pictures even with privilege.

The Fort Worth Aviation Museum looks pretty snazzy. I went to the The Cavanaugh Flight Museum in Addison when they had a visiting operational B-17.
Yes, if you like aviation museums I think you'll enjoy it. I'd also highly recommend the Fort Worth zoo. It's nationally recognized and quite frankly better than the Dallas zoo. Not that there's any thing wrong with the Dallas zoo.

We do have a large arts district and some really good museums as well. (though Dallas might be a little better in that respect.) We do have the largest collection of western art at the Amon Carter Museum. Well worth a visit.

Don't pass on a chance to see the Fort Worth Cattle Drive (you'll have to google that as I can't provide you a link. ). Pictures don't do it justice. I've taken friends from out of town and they are always amazed by the size of the beef critters and their horns. You have to see it to believe it.
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Old 7th February 2018, 10:49 AM   #2962
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HAPPY SNOW DAY ! I say welcome to all you Newbies out there
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Old 13th February 2018, 11:21 PM   #2963
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Thank you.

I live in the DFW area, and I can assure you we still play college football here.
Hey there. I live in Dallas. There are a few other long time members who live in D-FW.
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Old 19th April 2018, 05:03 AM   #2964
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Hello.

New member here from Boston suburbs (USA). My name is a reference to the frequent sightings of turkeys both in Boston and the surrounding suburbs.
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Old 19th April 2018, 08:14 AM   #2965
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Hello.

New member here from Boston suburbs (USA). My name is a reference to the frequent sightings of turkeys both in Boston and the surrounding suburbs.
Welcome To the Skeptic site, The Turkeys know they are safe, because the only hunting going on in the Boston area is the weekly drive by gang shootings.
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Old 19th April 2018, 11:27 AM   #2966
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Newbie - Needing advice

Newbie from MA. Raised Catholic but always questioned why my Catholic school tore out full sections of our science book . . . nobody could ever give me a rational answer . . . I played with dinosaur figures and saw dinosaur bones at the museum . . . and I had heard about evolution . . . but no mention in any Catholic school books. (apparently no room in Noah's Ark for dinosaurs).

In any event, I am trying desperately to extract my wife from the alternative medicine universe. Aside from the insanity . . . its expensive. She is surrounded by moms who tend to look down on other mothers who do not explore "natural" remedies . . . aromatherapy . . . blah blah blah. My wife falls in line with the rest of her dopey friends . . . hook, line and sinker. One of my wife's friends uses her chiropractor to handle all family medical issues (apparently vaccines are bad) (luckily she has healthy children . . . but chiropractor gets credit for their health)

My son has significant medical problems (with no easy/effective treatment) . . and my wife has started down the alt-med path and I need to stop it ASAP. Please advise. Thanks!

FYI- wife's mother is full fledged born again Christian so believing anything is within my wife's DNA.
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Old 20th April 2018, 03:17 AM   #2967
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Originally Posted by bluegreen View Post
Newbie from MA. Raised Catholic but always questioned why my Catholic school tore out full sections of our science book . . . nobody could ever give me a rational answer . . . I played with dinosaur figures and saw dinosaur bones at the museum . . . and I had heard about evolution . . . but no mention in any Catholic school books. (apparently no room in Noah's Ark for dinosaurs).

In any event, I am trying desperately to extract my wife from the alternative medicine universe. Aside from the insanity . . . its expensive. She is surrounded by moms who tend to look down on other mothers who do not explore "natural" remedies . . . aromatherapy . . . blah blah blah. My wife falls in line with the rest of her dopey friends . . . hook, line and sinker. One of my wife's friends uses her chiropractor to handle all family medical issues (apparently vaccines are bad) (luckily she has healthy children . . . but chiropractor gets credit for their health)

My son has significant medical problems (with no easy/effective treatment) . . and my wife has started down the alt-med path and I need to stop it ASAP. Please advise. Thanks!

FYI- wife's mother is full fledged born again Christian so believing anything is within my wife's DNA.
Welcome to the forums. As a newbie you don't have certain posting privileges (like getting a nattie avatar or posting links in your posts) until you achieve a certain post count, but you do have the okay, like any member, to start a thread.

Properly speaking (and we're nothin' if not proper 'round these parts), discussions of this nature could go in one of three sub-forums, depending on how you want to approach the question:

> Science/Math/Medicine - the science and math geeks hang out there. They are, consistently, the authors of many of our more erudite posts. But they may consider the topic too broad unless you have specifics to bring into the discussion (suggested: your son's specific medical problems).

> General Skepticism and the Paranormal - the bastion of our traditional Debunking Unit. Very good at tearing down irrational arguments, but also very quick to call you a troll because they suspect that everyone's here to bust their chops and have difficulty imagining that not everyone's as cool and hip and well-informed as we are, so suspect everyone of pulling our collective legs. Give 'em a break - they're accustomed to dealing with people who see aliens in the woodpile, bigfoot at the tree break, and ghosts riding UFOs during every full moon.

> Forum Community - the hangout of the class clowns. You want to make the conversation more personal and chit-chatty? That's where you go. FC, though, has a tendency to attract persons enamored with their own cleverness. You have to be one of those sorts who fits right in at parties IMHO.

Up to you... if you're a little gun-shy, hang out for a bit. There are threads in Forum Community and Humor (an ironic title, that) that are designed just so you can get some posts under your belt. Read the "Nominations for the language awards" thread. I'm the nominal dictator there, but it'll give you a cross-section of the sorts of things people take an interest in, albeit causing your great confusion when you look at a post and ask, with the rest of us, "What's funny about that?"
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Old 20th April 2018, 06:25 AM   #2968
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Originally Posted by bluegreen View Post
Newbie from MA. Raised Catholic but always questioned why my Catholic school tore out full sections of our science book . . . nobody could ever give me a rational answer . . . I played with dinosaur figures and saw dinosaur bones at the museum . . . and I had heard about evolution . . . but no mention in any Catholic school books. (apparently no room in Noah's Ark for dinosaurs).

In any event, I am trying desperately

My son has significant medical problems (with no easy/effective treatment) . . and my wife has started down the alt-med path and I need to stop it ASAP. Please advise. Thanks!

FYI- wife's mother is full fledged born again Christian so believing anything is within my wife's DNA.
As to the first thing you raised, I grew up in a Catholic family. I attended public school, but attended Catechism once a week. (for those who don't know, Catechism is Catholic "schooling" for those who attend public school.) I was an altar boy. Probably the lone atheist in my family.

I honestly have no idea what you can do about your son. I have no children myself, I have an older sister with two children. Niece recently married. If something afflicted my niece or nephew, it would tear me apart, so having a child myself is something I can't even wrap my head around.

Be there for those you love. It might sound like facile, easy advice from someone, but that is life. I actually think that you and your wife are despairing about your son, which I understand. She wants to do anything she can to help him, and you can't convince her otherwise. Be there for her and him.
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Old 20th April 2018, 08:55 AM   #2969
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Be there for those you love. It might sound like facile, easy advice from someone, but that is life. I actually think that you and your wife are despairing about your son, which I understand. She wants to do anything she can to help him, and you can't convince her otherwise. Be there for her and him.

If false hope was harmless and free I'd agree with you, but it isn't.

Unfortunately, I don't know of any simple way to extricate someone from the clutches of "faith". (That's a dirty word in this context, and it describes the pursuers of Alt Med fantasies as well as it does religious believers. They are much the same.)

It is a long hard road of self-education even when not complicated by the usual impediments of a desire to believe and no past history of critical thinking.

It is much worse when such barriers are in place.

Good luck, bluegreen. I wish you well. But I don't think there's any magic bullet for your dilemma either.

I can empathize with your problem. My wife is a COPD sufferer, bedridden and on O2 24/7. She is a true believer in almost anything that gets a good sales pitch, and has an older sister who is worse and feeds her even more garbage than she can soak in herself from daytime TV talk shows and late night commercials.

I keep away the things that are overtly harmful or a complete waste of what little money we have to spare, and let the rest go without dispute. When explanations of why something isn't what it claims to be do not suffice I just leave it alone. I make a bit of progress from time to time and treasure that.

Baby steps.
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Old 20th April 2018, 04:45 PM   #2970
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Thank you all for your thoughtful comments . . . I really appreciate it.

I rather not disclose my son's medical issues but he is on a considerable amount of medications . . . all of which cause separate problems . . . and none of the medications are working that well (or it works but causes other problems) . . . so this reality empowers my wife to say, "well . . .the medicine is not working . . . why not try a wellness clinic." . . . and she drags my son kicking and screaming to a wellness clinician who believes flaxseed oil will help his XYZ conditions. He is on MAJOR medications . .. that don't work well. . . . but flaxseed oil will work??

Unlike the wellness clinician, my son's doctors discuss the success rates . . . the side effects . . .etc. . . and although the medications may not work on my son, they do help others or else they wouldn't be available and/or sell. I do end up dropping some of the lunacy (aromatherapy . . . hypnosis recordings) . . . because I have to pick my battles.

Lastly, I will note that if I discuss alt meds, religion, bigfoot, paranormal, etc . . . with my wife (or others who share her opinions), I feel like a total buzz kill . . . conversation killer . . . but I can't sit back and listen to my niece believe that some people do actually have psychic powers . . .

(to the moderator . . . sorry for mixing topics . . .I will snoop around to identify appropriate topics before I post again)
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Old 21st April 2018, 09:05 PM   #2971
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Hey, everyone. Newbie here from the Philippines. Interested to learn more about politics, science, technology and other value-adding topics and insights from different people here in the forum.

My username is a reference from ex-WWE Wrestler/current UFC Fighter CM Punk.

Hope to learn more from everyone.

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Old 21st April 2018, 10:30 PM   #2972
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Hi there pepsipunk, welcome aboard.

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