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Old 3rd July 2016, 02:54 PM   #601
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I am not making him out to be anything at all. Apart from not guilty. With or without a sparkly glove.
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Sparkly sold for $64K apparently

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...quined-6169234



As an aside.

Did Jackson leave any money to look after Bubbles?

Or did he just abandon him?
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
As an aside.

Did Jackson leave any money to look after Bubbles?

Or did he just abandon him?
Bubbles was placed in a park for Chimps and Apes when he became a teenager and started to challenge those about him. Teen chimps are too dangerous to have in close proximity to humans as they can be very aggressive and attack them and cause harm.
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Bubbles was placed in a park for Chimps and Apes when he became a teenager and started to challenge those about him. Teen chimps are too dangerous to have in close proximity to humans as they can be very aggressive and attack them and cause harm.
Interesting

Felt neglected once he hit his teenage years
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Interesting

Felt neglected once he hit his teenage years
More a case that all animals, including humans, tend to start to challenge their parents as they enter adolescence. In most cases it in a mechanism that forces the youngsters out of the family unit and so spreads their genetics further a field and prevents inbreeding, so it is totally evolutionary. In most animals it also involved physical challenges, fights, head butting, shows of strengths. When you consider how vastly stronger chimps are than humans, having a chimp that is starting to act in an aggressive and dominating to the humans around it, it becomes a treat to their safety.
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
You wanted me to post them?

It is kid porn ffs
Actually, everyone warned you to not do so unless you had explicit agreement from the mods. Personally, I wasn't sure if they would allow it. I don't find the images to be child porn and I'm not sure how the moderators/admins would view them, but any attempt to just start a thread with pictures might land you in hot water.

I once wanted to start a thread on marijuana growing. This was after WA and CO legalized weed and I know of a forumite who is going through all the bureaucratic hoops to set up a legitimate business in one of those states. I thought a traditional "ask me anything about starting a marijuana farm" would be interesting. I had the concerned party's okay to do so. We still bounced it off the admins because there are more laws in this world than just those in WA and CO and we'd recently had a big brouhaha over whether it was against the MA to discuss legal highs.

We asked. We were advised it was probably a bad idea. No thread.
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Interesting

Felt neglected once he hit his teenage years
More in the realm of: No. They were concerned about primate adolescent behavior. A chimp is not a cute little monkey-wunkie. It is a powerful primate. Bona, a chimp in the Bronx Zoo, pulled with one arm, a weight of almost 850 pounds / roughly 400 kilos. A healthy ruby player can pull about a quarter of that. "He'll rip your arm off" is not a "you'll put your eye out" admonition. Using two arms and all the fury of a primate during the mating season? He will be able to rip your body into pieces.

Happily, they got him into a basement, taught him to post on the internet, and he's been trolling skeptics' forums since then.
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C'mon, nobody sees the set up?
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C'mon, nobody sees the set up?
Boom tish!
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Sparkly sold for $64K apparently

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...quined-6169234

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...el-Jackson.jpg

As an aside.

Did Jackson leave any money to look after Bubbles?

Or did he just abandon him?
Ewwww! There is no telling where that glove has been...or what it has done!
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Originally Posted by Jules Galen View Post
Ewwww! There is no telling where that glove has been...or what it has done!

Or what it will do! Apparently wearing it will make you a pedophile.
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The first time I saw MJ and his one glove, I wondered if he had been getting his inspiration from Grandville.
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The first time I saw MJ and his one glove, I wondered if he had been getting his inspiration from Grandville.

Yup. That one looks like a pedophile too.

I guess that proves it. Wearing one glove makes you a pedophile.

I wonder what difference which hand you wear it on makes?
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If Michael Jackson confessed to molesting kids to Dr. Murray, and that's why Murray overdosed him with the propofol, would the confession still be sealed under doctor-patient privilege? Or would Dr. Murray have to spill the beans?

I don't know how the law works in California.
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Yup. That one looks like a pedophile too.

I guess that proves it. Wearing one glove makes you a pedophile.

I wonder what difference which hand you wear it on makes?
You know what this means man??!!

We have to kill the amputees!!
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If Michael Jackson confessed to molesting kids to Dr. Murray, and that's why Murray overdosed him with the propofol, would the confession still be sealed under doctor-patient privilege? Or would Dr. Murray have to spill the beans?

I don't know how the law works in California.
I don't know, but that is a good question. Are Doctors in California -or anywhere- mandated to report confessions of that nature?

If so, it might protect children to some extent, but would it also prevent people seeking help for their problems?
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Are priests?

I've always wondered how they work.
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Yup. That one looks like a pedophile too.

I guess that proves it. Wearing one glove makes you a pedophile.

I wonder what difference which hand you wear it on makes?
I'm less concerned about the one-glove perverts. If wearing a single glove makes a paedophile, what about all you two-glove people.

Does that mean...... gasp...... you're bipedal files. I mean, bipaedophiles. That might be too much ick factor for the prude brigade and this thread could explode.
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I'm less concerned about the one-glove perverts. If wearing a single glove makes a paedophile, what about all you two-glove people.

Does that mean...... gasp...... you're bipedal files. I mean, bipaedophiles. That might be too much ick factor for the prude brigade and this thread could explode.
Depends how sparkly
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Sparkly sold for $64K apparently

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...quined-6169234

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...el-Jackson.jpg

As an aside.

Did Jackson leave any money to look after Bubbles?

Or did he just abandon him?

Surely there wasn't really only the one glove? I would think his costumer would've made sure there was a dozen or so?
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Surely there wasn't really only the one glove? I would think his costumer would've made sure there was a dozen or so?

That would be a dozen times as icky.

That much icky concentrated in one spot would make reality implode.
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Did he leave a glove to bubbles?
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If Michael Jackson confessed to molesting kids to Dr. Murray, and that's why Murray overdosed him with the propofol, would the confession still be sealed under doctor-patient privilege?
I'm not sure doctor-patient privilege exists after the patient is dead. It would be pretty silly if it did; it's not like a dead person can be embarrassed or suffer some kind of damages from the release of information.
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The first time I saw MJ and his one glove, I wondered if he had been getting his inspiration from Grandville.
I always wondered if it was Khan.
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I wonder if people who put on the glove and keep it on for awhile become sex freaks? Like...maybe the glove has some kind of evil magic associated with it - evil magic which can possess the minds of others!

I can imagine some poor sex offender pleading before a judge and saying, "Your Honor, I never did anything like this before in my life! All I remember is that I put on that glove and then everything went black. Next thing I know, I wake up in a prison infirmary and they tell me I molested and strangled the family poodle."

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I wonder if people who put on the glove and keep it on for awhile become sex freaks? Like...maybe the glove has some kind of evil magic associated with it - evil magic which can possess the minds of others!
I seem to remember not long ago there was a children's show about a magical soccer jersey that operated on basically this exact premise, except that the jersey would turn the wearer into a superstar soccer player rather than a sex freak.
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I wonder if people who put on the glove and keep it on for awhile become sex freaks? Like...maybe the glove has some kind of evil magic associated with it - evil magic which can possess the minds of others!

I can imagine some poor sex offender pleading before a judge and saying, "Your Honor, I never did anything like this before in my life! All I remember is that I put on that glove and then everything went black. Next thing I know, I wake up in a prison infirmary and they tell me I molested and strangled the family poodle."
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I'm not sure doctor-patient privilege exists after the patient is dead. It would be pretty silly if it did; it's not like a dead person can be embarrassed or suffer some kind of damages from the release of information.
Well, there might be another reason for Dr. Murray to remain silent about the child molestation stuff. He's protected under the Constitutional right not to self-incriminate and if MJ's molesting gives Murray a motive, Murray might be allowed to conceal it - not to protect Jackson, but to protect himself from a murder charge. Unless he got immunity.
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All the sane people seem to have checked out and left the inmates to play with the paste and construction paper.

Trolls Win Again.
. One advantage: dropping out leaves extra time for coffee. Should we meet for one tomorrow-say "midway" in Hawaii?

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Well, there might be another reason for Dr. Murray to remain silent about the child molestation stuff. He's protected under the Constitutional right not to self-incriminate and if MJ's molesting gives Murray a motive, Murray might be allowed to conceal it - not to protect Jackson, but to protect himself from a murder charge. Unless he got immunity.
Why and how would a confession from MJ to his doctor about prior crimes give the doctor a motive?

I did not follow the trial, but I don't recall seeing anything of the sort mentioned anywhere. When this was brought up the other day, I thought it was a rhetorical exercise, not actual speculation about real events.
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I wonder if people who put on the glove and keep it on for awhile become sex freaks? Like...maybe the glove has some kind of evil magic associated with it - evil magic which can possess the minds of others!

I can imagine some poor sex offender pleading before a judge and saying, "Your Honor, I never did anything like this before in my life! All I remember is that I put on that glove and then everything went black. Next thing I know, I wake up in a prison infirmary and they tell me I molested and strangled the family poodle."
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Why and how would a confession from MJ to his doctor about prior crimes give the doctor a motive?

I did not follow the trial, but I don't recall seeing anything of the sort mentioned anywhere. When this was brought up the other day, I thought it was a rhetorical exercise, not actual speculation about real events.
It's just more evidence-free, tabloid-style nonsense designed to make people "certain" of MJ's guilt. Dr. Feelgood killed Jackson by being a terrible doctor who put money before ethics.

"If we can't convince them by lying about the existence of child pornography in MJ's home or pretending that he was found not guilty because he was rich, maybe they'll believe a fanciful story involving an actual criminal."
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"If we can't convince them by lying about the existence of child pornography in MJ's home or pretending that he was found not guilty because he was rich, maybe they'll believe a fanciful story involving an actual criminal."
Yes, there's an actual cadre of conspirators bent specifically on continuing to destroy the reputation of dead Michael Jackson by developing and implementing a disinformation campaign. They meet in the boardroom right next to the FEMA camp planning commission's.
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
Yes, there's an actual cadre of conspirators bent specifically on continuing to destroy the reputation of dead Michael Jackson by developing and implementing a disinformation campaign. They meet in the boardroom right next to the FEMA camp planning commission's.
No, it's more like someone wants to take a shot at some fame or money, so they spread some baseless speculation, then the Internet moron brigade picks up the ball and runs with it, pretending that it's evidence of something.

I think you know what you should do with your strawman...you should drop it and stop constructing them in the future.
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I think you know what you should do with your strawman...you should drop it and stop constructing them in the future.
But...

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"If we can't convince them by lying about the existence of child pornography in MJ's home or pretending that he was found not guilty because he was rich, maybe they'll believe a fanciful story involving an actual criminal."
...is completely okay of course.
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...is completely okay of course.
Yep.
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Dude slept in bed with strangers pre-teen kids

But apparently it's ok because he was just quirky and boyish

Wait up. Wasn't he an adult who was married twice and has two kids?
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
All the sane people seem to have checked out and left the inmates to play with the paste and construction paper.

Trolls Win Again.
Are you referring to this thread, or the ISF as a whole?
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