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Thermal · Today, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Not if the law doesn't face thorough judicial review or is clearly unjust. In such a case you can expect widespread civil disobedience and non-violent protest. Its our tradition, we are not an authoritarian society that just bows down to law simply cuz its a law.

The cool thing about laws here is that they are made by the people. So if the People decide, through our democratic process of representative legislation, that firearms will be heavily restricted, but you don't personally think it "seems to do good", do you comply with the laws or resist? If you are refusing to give up weapons, we can probably dispose with any notion of non violent resistance. Cold dead hands and all that.

Hercules56 · Today, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

The cool thing about laws here is that they are made by the people. So if the People decide, through our democratic process of representative legislation, that firearms will be heavily restricted, but you don't personally think it "seems to do good", do you comply with the laws or resist? If you are refusing to give up weapons, we can probably dispose with any notion of non violent resistance. Cold dead hands and all that.

Our country has a long and proud tradition of civil disobedience and nonviolent protest against unjust laws. Don't forget that the disgusting discrimination of Jim Crow was found to be legal in the Dred Scott case, but millions of people chose not to comply anyway.

Thermal · Today, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Our country has a long and proud tradition of civil disobedience and nonviolent protest against unjust laws. Don't forget that the disgusting discrimination of Jim Crow was found to be legal in the Dred Scott case, but millions of people chose not to comply anyway.

That's not an answer to the question.

Hercules56 · Today, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

That's not an answer to the question.

It's my answer.

Thermal · Today, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

It's my answer.

Yeah, I get that. And trust me, your deliberate evasion speaks volumes. Far more than your postings, in fact.

Darat · Today, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Not if the law doesn't face thorough judicial review or is clearly unjust. In such a case you can expect widespread civil disobedience and non-violent protest. Its our tradition, we are not an authoritarian society that just bows down to law simply cuz its a law.

Did you forget what you posted?

Hercules56 · Today, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

Yeah, I get that. And trust me, your deliberate evasion speaks volumes. Far more than your postings, in fact.

I have evaded nothing. I answered your question clearly.

Today, 08:48 AM	#641
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 22,595	Originally Posted by Hercules56 Not if the law doesn't face thorough judicial review or is clearly unjust. In such a case you can expect widespread civil disobedience and non-violent protest. Its our tradition, we are not an authoritarian society that just bows down to law simply cuz its a law. The cool thing about laws here is that they are made by the people. So if the People decide, through our democratic process of representative legislation, that firearms will be heavily restricted, but you don't personally think it "seems to do good", do you comply with the laws or resist? If you are refusing to give up weapons, we can probably dispose with any notion of non violent resistance. Cold dead hands and all that.
	__________________ "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" -Mark Twain "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half didn't mean anything at all" -Rosencrantz, on Hamlet

Today, 09:04 AM	#642
Hercules56 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 4,638	Originally Posted by Thermal The cool thing about laws here is that they are made by the people. So if the People decide, through our democratic process of representative legislation, that firearms will be heavily restricted, but you don't personally think it "seems to do good", do you comply with the laws or resist? If you are refusing to give up weapons, we can probably dispose with any notion of non violent resistance. Cold dead hands and all that. Our country has a long and proud tradition of civil disobedience and nonviolent protest against unjust laws. Don't forget that the disgusting discrimination of Jim Crow was found to be legal in the Dred Scott case, but millions of people chose not to comply anyway.
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Today, 09:08 AM	#643
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 22,595	Originally Posted by Hercules56 Our country has a long and proud tradition of civil disobedience and nonviolent protest against unjust laws. Don't forget that the disgusting discrimination of Jim Crow was found to be legal in the Dred Scott case, but millions of people chose not to comply anyway. That's not an answer to the question.
	__________________ "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" -Mark Twain "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half didn't mean anything at all" -Rosencrantz, on Hamlet

Today, 09:17 AM	#644
Hercules56 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 4,638	Originally Posted by Thermal That's not an answer to the question. It's my answer.
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Today, 10:09 AM	#645
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 22,595	Originally Posted by Hercules56 It's my answer. Yeah, I get that. And trust me, your deliberate evasion speaks volumes. Far more than your postings, in fact.
	__________________ "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" -Mark Twain "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half didn't mean anything at all" -Rosencrantz, on Hamlet

Today, 10:13 AM	#646
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 109,587	Originally Posted by Hercules56 Not if the law doesn't face thorough judicial review or is clearly unjust. In such a case you can expect widespread civil disobedience and non-violent protest. Its our tradition, we are not an authoritarian society that just bows down to law simply cuz its a law. Did you forget what you posted?
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Today, 10:18 AM	#647
Hercules56 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 4,638	Originally Posted by Thermal Yeah, I get that. And trust me, your deliberate evasion speaks volumes. Far more than your postings, in fact. I have evaded nothing. I answered your question clearly.
Hercules56 Illuminator Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 4,638	__________________ theliberalgunclub.com "The mission of The Liberal Gun Club is to provide a pro-Second Amendment voice for left-of-center gun owners in the national conversations on firearms."