The thread for Non Drag Queens charged with child sexual assault

[Bogative]

Toms River teacher jailed, accused of taking sex photos in classroom

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Ocean County Sheriff's Crime Scene Investigation Unit determined that students viewed the photographs on Banner's Twitter profile and that Banner also sent inappropriate photographs of himself to a student on Snapchat, the prosecutor's news release said.

During the investigation, detectives recovered numerous images of Banner engaging in sexual conduct with himself in his classroom...

This dude was getting paid $88,000 a year to yank on his crank in his classroom.

[LondonJohn]

Originally Posted by Bogative

Toms River teacher jailed, accused of taking sex photos in classroom





This dude was getting paid $88,000 a year to yank on his crank in his classroom.

You don't often see it described as "engaging in sexual conduct with himself" though......

[LondonJohn]

(The only thing that would have made it sound more strange would have been "engaging in unwanted sexual conduct with himself")

[Bogative]

Pine Island teacher/coach arrested and charged with sexually assaulting student.

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…arrested for suspicion of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old student.

According to Rochester Police Department (RPD), 24-year-old Lindsey Schneeberger of Rochester was arrested Thursday after she was accused of assaulting the student at her home in Rochester.

No information available on her drag status.

[Bogative]

Retired CCSD teacher arrested after alleged sexual assault of minor.

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Lancaster faces charges for eight counts of lewdness with a minor under the age of 14, two counts of luring a minor, and one count producing child pornography.

The teacher is 57 years old and retired at the end of this school year.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by theprestige

Kids are already processing more than enough in their lives, without having to try to figure out what drag is supposed to mean.

What makes you think kids are having to try and figure out what drag is supposed to mean?

Alternatively, what makes you think kids are having difficulty figuring out what drag is supposed to mean?

Alternatively, why do you think drag is "supposed to mean" anything at all?

[Bogative]

Victorville high school teacher arrested on suspicion of unlawful sex with female student.

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Noah Padilla, 24, of Victorville, was taken into custody Wednesday on suspicion of having engaged in sexual misconduct with the student at Victor Valley High School in Victorvillle, the Sheriff's Department said in a news release.

The victim is 17 years old.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by Bogative

The victim is 17 years old.

That's above the age of consent in many places.

[TurkeysGhost]

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

That's above the age of consent in many places.

Fortunately this is not one such place where teachers preying on their underage students is legal.

[Darat]

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

That's above the age of consent in many places.

Over here that is when the position of trust/authority alters what is legal and illegal. It would be illegal for the teacher to engage in sexual activity with the over 16 year old even though AoC is 16.

[Bogative]

Soldotna teacher, union president charged with sexual abuse of a minor.

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According to troopers, the student said she and Erfurth continued to communicate with the app Signal, which allows messages to disappear after being read. She told troopers the two began a sexual relationship in 2017, while she was 17 years old, which continued for the next two years, usually at a small house on his property.

The relationship was investigated in 2017 but no charges were brought.

[Emily's Cat]

Originally Posted by LondonJohn

You seem unusually fixated on linking to reports of transgender people abusing children (where it would also appear that most of these perpetrators declared their transgender identity POST committing their offences and getting caught - possibly because they've heard that they might get better treatment in prison by doing so....).

Is there any particular reason why you don't seem to link to (eg) reports of cisgender teachers, athletic coaches, children's group leaders (eg scoutmasters, or... parents/guardians (who are by an absolutely huge margin the worst offenders of this type - both numerically and proportionately)? Or is it only the transgender ones you wish to demonise?

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Matthew Best isn't linking to those because NOBODY DENIES THAT THEY EXIST.

On the other hand, we keep getting told that there's no risk with drag queens or with transgender identified people, they would never ever do that, and that any instance of it happening is imagined.

We also keep seeing activists getting outraged about the rapist or pedophile being "misgendered" and seemingly not giving a single **** about the wellbeing of their victims. And we keep seeing activists getting up in arms at the mere suggestion that a male sex offender who discovered their magical gendery soul AFTER being arrested should be housed with the males - they keep loudly insisting that anyone who says they are trans is obviously trans and it cannot be questioned in any way whatsoever ever, and that criminals should have the RIGHT to self-identify themselves into the female prison estate if they want to.

Maybe if the activists weren't so busy trying to gaslight everyone - especially females - this wouldn't be a discussion at all.

[LondonJohn]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Matthew Best isn't linking to those because NOBODY DENIES THAT THEY EXIST.

On the other hand, we keep getting told that there's no risk with drag queens or with transgender identified people, they would never ever do that, and that any instance of it happening is imagined.

We also keep seeing activists getting outraged about the rapist or pedophile being "misgendered" and seemingly not giving a single **** about the wellbeing of their victims. And we keep seeing activists getting up in arms at the mere suggestion that a male sex offender who discovered their magical gendery soul AFTER being arrested should be housed with the males - they keep loudly insisting that anyone who says they are trans is obviously trans and it cannot be questioned in any way whatsoever ever, and that criminals should have the RIGHT to self-identify themselves into the female prison estate if they want to.

Maybe if the activists weren't so busy trying to gaslight everyone - especially females - this wouldn't be a discussion at all.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that NOBODY ON THIS FORUM DENIES THAT THERE ARE INCIDENCES OF TRANSGENDER* PEOPLE ASSAULTING CISGENDER PEOPLE.


* Note: not "transgender identified people". Did someone mention gaslighting....?

[Bogative]

California School District Pays $1M To Victim Of Disgraced Teacher And ‘Ethnic Studies’ Activist

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A California school system and a former teacher who is a prominent leftist activist have agreed to pay $950,000 to a student who was assaulted in the classroom by the teacher, in order to settle a lawsuit alleging that the school system kept the teacher in the classroom despite knowing of repeated instances of sexual and ideological misconduct.

This teacher was on paid leave for 5 years from a prior incident when he told a female student she was good in bed.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by LondonJohn

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that NOBODY ON THIS FORUM DENIES THAT THERE ARE INCIDENCES OF TRANSGENDER* PEOPLE ASSAULTING CISGENDER PEOPLE.


* Note: not "transgender identified people". Did someone mention gaslighting....?

And, since there are an estimated 1.6 million transgender people in the U.S., it is statistically unlikely for there not to be.

The real question is if trans drag queens (or even cis drag queens) are likely enough to be child molesters that they require extraordinary measures to protect children in a venue like a public library.

If this were to be true then I wonder what should be done to protect them from parents, relatives, and family friends in private venues like their homes.

After all, those are the culprits in the vast majority of incidents. Stranger danger only accounts for a few percent, public or private.

[Emily's Cat]

Originally Posted by quadraginta

The real question is if trans drag queens (or even cis drag queens) are likely enough to be child molesters that they require extraordinary measures to protect children in a venue like a public library.

Whether a drag queen is trans or not is irrelevant.

And I don't think they require extraordinary measures. I do, however, think that some of the events that have occurred have highlighted the need for more stringent safeguarding practices across the board - which includes drag queens.

Some of this has gained a lot of rhetoric. But one of the events was a drag queen that flopped on the floor and invited children to lay on top of them during a DQSH event. That's something that I think most parents would consider inappropriate, regardless of how the person is dressed or how they identify. It turned out that the specific DQ in question had previously been charged with child sex offenses, under a different name. So this was a case of an actual child predator laying on the floor and having kids lay on top of them. Parents were irate - and I think it's reasonable for them to have been irate.

There was pushback because the venue and the company hosting the DQSH had not done a background check on them. The safeguards that parents assumed were in place for events aimed at their kids were absent.

But when that hit social media... it was met by a host of online activists (?) who got very angry and called the parents "transphobes" for being angry that a child predator had been put in a position to incorporate children into their deviant behavior.

Reality is that whether or not that DQ was transgender had nothing to do with it - it had to do with a lack of basic common-sense safeguarding being put in place.

The same thing keeps happening in this thread. Some of us hold the view that events aimed at kids, especially ones where the parents aren't going to be present, should be held to a g-rated standard, and comprehensive background checks should be done on the performers - DQSH is the instance that prompted the discussion, but it's not at all limited to that context, it's a universal context.

But even here, I've been met with people who have said it's completely irrational and impossible to expect adults who are interacting with children in situations like this to refrain from swearing or engaging in sexually suggestive performances or behaviors.

It's certainly not helped by idiotic laws that those in Florida. That doesn't help the situation at all, it's an overreaction and it's dumb.

[zooterkin]

Originally Posted by theprestige

And yes, I think that comedy womanface and hypersexualized femininity are entertainments properly reserved for mature adults. Kids are already processing more than enough in their lives, without having to try to figure out what drag is supposed to mean.

The thousands of kids attending Christmas pantomimes every year will be somewhat surprised to learn that they were not watching some traditional harmless fun.

[TurkeysGhost]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

Whether a drag queen is trans or not is irrelevant.

And I don't think they require extraordinary measures. I do, however, think that some of the events that have occurred have highlighted the need for more stringent safeguarding practices across the board - which includes drag queens.

Some of this has gained a lot of rhetoric. But one of the events was a drag queen that flopped on the floor and invited children to lay on top of them during a DQSH event. That's something that I think most parents would consider inappropriate, regardless of how the person is dressed or how they identify. It turned out that the specific DQ in question had previously been charged with child sex offenses, under a different name. So this was a case of an actual child predator laying on the floor and having kids lay on top of them. Parents were irate - and I think it's reasonable for them to have been irate.

There was pushback because the venue and the company hosting the DQSH had not done a background check on them. The safeguards that parents assumed were in place for events aimed at their kids were absent.

But when that hit social media... it was met by a host of online activists (?) who got very angry and called the parents "transphobes" for being angry that a child predator had been put in a position to incorporate children into their deviant behavior.

Reality is that whether or not that DQ was transgender had nothing to do with it - it had to do with a lack of basic common-sense safeguarding being put in place.

The same thing keeps happening in this thread. Some of us hold the view that events aimed at kids, especially ones where the parents aren't going to be present, should be held to a g-rated standard, and comprehensive background checks should be done on the performers - DQSH is the instance that prompted the discussion, but it's not at all limited to that context, it's a universal context.

But even here, I've been met with people who have said it's completely irrational and impossible to expect adults who are interacting with children in situations like this to refrain from swearing or engaging in sexually suggestive performances or behaviors.

It's certainly not helped by idiotic laws that those in Florida. That doesn't help the situation at all, it's an overreaction and it's dumb.

Forgive me if you've already linked it, but I would appreciate a link for the anecdote you're describing. Given how much news there is about drag queen story hours, I haven't been able to find anything matching your description by google searching.

[Lplus]

Originally Posted by zooterkin

The thousands of kids attending Christmas pantomimes every year will be somewhat surprised to learn that they were not watching some traditional harmless fun.

Depends how many get asked up on stage to bounce up and down on Widow Twanky...

[Bogative]

Former Port Orange High School teacher re-arrested for sexual conduct with a minor.

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A former Port Orange teacher arrested in February for inappropriate sexual conduct with a student at Atlantic High School was arrested again on Tuesday by Ormond Beach police for a similar offense, authorities said.

The female victims were 17 and 15 at the time of the assaults.

[dann]

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“Members of this our church have hurt other members of the church or society," said César García Magán, the Spanish Episcopal Conference secretary general, said at the presentation. ”And for this reason, we feel pain and shame."
But he said that this would be meaningless if it did not lead to changes in the ways children were protected and offenders sidelined. He said the church was also committed to sharing its findings and must use the lessons learnt to ensure “sexual abuses do not occur again in the heart of the church.
(...)
Only a handful of countries have had government-initiated or parliamentary inquiries into abuse like Spain’s.
The most extensive took place in Australia. In 2017, it found that 7% of Catholic priests were accused of abusing minors between 1980 and 2010. Judge-led investigations in Ireland from 2005 impacted the Catholic Church’s once-dominant influence in society and politics.
(...)
And in France, an independent inquiry estimated in 2021 that some 330,000 children were victims of sexual abuse by Catholic clergy or other Catholic-affiliated lay employees from 1950-2020.
In neighboring Portugal, an expert panel said this year that more than 4,800 individuals may have been victims of child sex abuse in the Catholic Church.
Spanish Catholic bishops find evidence of 728 sexual abusers, 927 victims since 1945 (ABC News, June 2, 2023)

It doesn't mention if the victims were all minors. It may be implied, but I'm not sure.

[LondonJohn]

Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost

Forgive me if you've already linked it, but I would appreciate a link for the anecdote you're describing. Given how much news there is about drag queen story hours, I haven't been able to find anything matching your description by google searching.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suspect that no such (reliable and credible) evidence will be forthcoming... because no such (reliable and credible) evidence exists.

As you and I well know, there's a small but zealous constituency of people who have an unnaturally-strong urge to expose drag queens as disproportionately dangerous (sexually) to children. And that small group of people has the habit of either hyperbolising or wholesale-inventing "anecdotes" in which drag queens either a) are overtly sexual in their performances to children, or b) commit some form of sexual offence against children. Credulous fellow travellers then uncritically lap up and repeat-disseminate these stories, and before long they've achieved such traction that even the mainstream starts to (uncritically) accept them as substantively true. Classic misinformation tactics, in other words.

In the real world, of course, children are several orders of magnitude more likely to be sexually assaulted by their own parents or close relatives; and they're also a fair few orders of magnitude more likely to be sexually assaulted by teachers, sports coaches or youth group adult leaders/organisers/helpers. Which is where this thread comes in.

[LondonJohn]

Originally Posted by quadraginta

And, since there are an estimated 1.6 million transgender people in the U.S., it is statistically unlikely for there not to be.

The real question is if trans drag queens (or even cis drag queens) are likely enough to be child molesters that they require extraordinary measures to protect children in a venue like a public library.

If this were to be true then I wonder what should be done to protect them from parents, relatives, and family friends in private venues like their homes.

After all, those are the culprits in the vast majority of incidents. Stranger danger only accounts for a few percent, public or private.

Indeed. But hey: any statistical approach towards genuinely minimising risk of sexual harm to children flies out of the window if one has an inbuilt animus to drag queens (and thus a zealous propensity to demonise them in any way possible).

[TurkeysGhost]

Originally Posted by LondonJohn

In the real world, of course, children are several orders of magnitude more likely to be sexually assaulted by their own parents or close relatives; and they're also a fair few orders of magnitude more likely to be sexually assaulted by teachers, sports coaches or youth group adult leaders/organisers/helpers. Which is where this thread comes in.

Obviously it's animus. Most of these drag queen story hour events seem to be meant for children so young that their parents have to be there in person anyway to directly care for them. These types of events are about as low risk as you can hope for. They are 100% public performances where parents are immediately supervising their children. You'd have to get very creative to think of any scenario where the performer is going to be able to engage in any acts of gross abuse and not immediately get pummeled by the audience of parents.

Like you say, the real risks are either immediately family members or those in positions of responsibility to act as authorities over the children, not strangers.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by TurkeysGhost

Forgive me if you've already linked it, but I would appreciate a link for the anecdote you're describing. Given how much news there is about drag queen story hours, I haven't been able to find anything matching your description by google searching.

Me too.

[Bogative]

Surprise music teacher arrested on charges of child pornography possession.

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Armstrong was ultimately booked into jail and charged with 10 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor.

He had 58 images of child porn on his computer.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by LondonJohn

Indeed. But hey: any statistical approach towards genuinely minimising risk of sexual harm to children flies out of the window if one has an inbuilt animus to drag queens (and thus a zealous propensity to demonise them in any way possible).

True.

Any rational person believing that such 'precautionary' measures of vetting for a drag queen to associate with children in a public library or other such venue are so critically important would, of course, also believe that the vetting of the parents attending should be much more thorough. Invasive, even,

Statistics on child molestation being what they are, and all.