[Continuation] Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness' say psychiatry experts at Yale... Pt 3 - Page 5

Stacyhs · 7th February 2020, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by jimbob

Anyone else notice how his weird tics and grimaces are getting more frequent and longer?

I can't watch him long enough to notice before having to rush to the vomitorium.

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I can't watch him long enough to notice before having to rush to the vomitorium.

Far be it from me to diagnose someone based on their social media, but if your reaction is that extreme you may want to consult with a physician.

Skeptic Ginger · 8th February 2020, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Far be it from me to diagnose someone based on their social media, but if your reaction is that extreme you may want to consult with a physician.

Why?

I can't stand to listen to the bastard either. Pretty sure that is normal, definitely not extreme.

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Why?

I can't stand to listen to the bastard either. Pretty sure that is normal, definitely not extreme.

Becoming physically ill seems pretty extreme.

RecoveringYuppy · 8th February 2020, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Becoming physically ill seems pretty extreme.

Physically ill? She's just leaving the football game early.

Skeptic Ginger · 8th February 2020, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Becoming physically ill seems pretty extreme.

Usually when people say Trump makes them vomit they don't mean it literally.

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

: rolleyes :

Usually when people say Trump makes them vomit they don't mean it literally.

I dunno. Are you sure it's not a valuable window into their disturbed state of mind?

TragicMonkey · 8th February 2020, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I dunno. Are you sure it's not a valuable window into their disturbed state of mind?

Perhaps it's stress-induced acid reflux.

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Perhaps it's stress-induced acid reflux.

Is there a checklist in the DSM for that?

TragicMonkey · 8th February 2020, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Is there a checklist in the DSM for that?

It's got an ICD10 code, some where between the one for "orca attack, subsequent encounter" and "penile injury from fallen space debris".

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 01:21 PM

When it comes to falling space debris, you see injury, but I see opportunity.

Skeptic Ginger · 8th February 2020, 02:28 PM

None of that sarcasm makes Trump's diagnosis any less valid.

Stacyhs · 8th February 2020, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Far be it from me to diagnose someone based on their social media, but if your reaction is that extreme you may want to consult with a physician.

You're taking your role as the new TBD way too seriously. It's not necessary to reply with a nasty comment to every post that dares express a personal negative opinion about Trump.

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

None of that sarcasm makes Trump's diagnosis any less valid.

Kind of hard to imagine how the "diagnosis" could be any less valid.

theprestige · 8th February 2020, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

You're taking your role as the new TBD way too seriously. It's not necessary to reply with a nasty comment to every post that dares express a personal negative opinion about Trump.

It sounds like your stomach is supplying all the nastiness.

You want to make nasty comments, but you don't want to own them? That must be a bit queasy making, for sure.

Stacyhs · 8th February 2020, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

It sounds like your stomach is supplying all the nastiness.

You want to make nasty comments, but you don't want to own them? That must be a bit queasy making, for sure.

I own and stand by my comment about Trump which was not directed at you or anyone in this forum. Yet you direct your nastiness at me personally and not for the first time. This all began when you insulted my mother for no reason and got called out for it by me and others. Grow up.

jimbob · 8th February 2020, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Can't say that I've put any effort into tracking that. Or even watching him for any period long enough to notice it was even happening.

What's your methodology? Do you watch him live, and keep a diary?

Well this is not normal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9F...outu.be&t=5750

Nor was he doing this in 2017 to such an extent.

calebprime · 8th February 2020, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by jimbob

Well this is not normal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9F...outu.be&t=5750

Nor was he doing this in 2017 to such an extent.

I watched his interview with Fox the day of the senate's impeachment decision, with the sound off.

Fwiw -- not much -- I found his eye asymmetry quite odd -- how he was squinting out of one eye and focussing with the other, seemingly. And then instead of looking at the interviewer, his eyes would obviously fixate over to another location when he wanted to recall something. Also, not a happy face. Strained and tired.

Now, it wasn't a lovely performance or a convincing act of human communication or persuasion, but the guy's a nitwit and has been under incredible stress, so it probably doesn't mean much.

Safe-Keeper · 8th February 2020, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by jimbob

Well this is not normal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9F...outu.be&t=5750

Nor was he doing this in 2017 to such an extent.

Reminds me of that recent footage from FOX News where he appears to throw a tantrum in his limousine and does this huge... unvoluntary jerk or spasm.

Can't find it on YouTube, unfortunately.

eta

Originally Posted by calebprime

Now, it wasn't a lovely performance or a convincing act of human communication or persuasion, but the guy's a nitwit and has been under incredible stress, so it probably doesn't mean much.

Now that the impeachment proceedings are over, he will have lots of Executive Time with TV and hamberders to relax until he stumbles into his next major crisis or scandal

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Skeptic Ginger · 8th February 2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Kind of hard to imagine how the "diagnosis" could be any less valid.

Dude, you are late to this party. No one supports that nonsense, even a certain person arguing the psychiatrists were unethical.

So that leaves one likely conclusion, purposeful trolling.

xjx388 · 8th February 2020, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Dude, you are late to this party. No one supports that nonsense, even a certain person arguing the psychiatrists were unethical.

So that leaves one likely conclusion, purposeful trolling.

Not really.

The quality of a diagnosis has little to do with ethics and more to do with the methodology one uses to arrive at it. There is no methodology in psychology/psychiatry for diagnosing people based on tweets, public appearances, etc. Therefore, the diagnosis can be rejected.

The ethics of the situation is simply that they shouldn’t be speculating about the mental state of a public figure they haven’t personally examined in the first place.

There are two prongs of my objection.

Skeptic Ginger · 8th February 2020, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by xjx388

Not really.

The quality of a diagnosis has little to do with ethics and more to do with the methodology one uses to arrive at it. There is no methodology in psychology/psychiatry for diagnosing people based on tweets, public appearances, etc. Therefore, the diagnosis can be rejected.

The ethics of the situation is simply that they shouldn’t be speculating about the mental state of a public figure they haven’t personally examined in the first place.

There are two prongs of my objection.

So now you're back to denying what we can all see with our own eyes?

Steve · 8th February 2020, 07:41 PM

There are people in this world who act, or would like to act, just like Trump in their daily lives. Those people really do think he is “normal” and will never recognize or understand how bizarre Trump is.

Stacyhs · 8th February 2020, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

There are people in this world who act, or would like to act, just like Trump in their daily lives. Those people really do think he is “normal” and will never recognize or understand how bizarre Trump is.

And, somehow not coincidentally, those people tend to defend Trump no matter what he does.

Steve · 8th February 2020, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

And, somehow not coincidentally, those people tend to defend Trump no matter what he does.

Yes because, whether they are aware of it or not, they are defending themselves at the same time.

Stacyhs · 8th February 2020, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Yes because, whether they are aware of it or not, they are defending themselves at the same time.

I agree with that 100%.

theprestige · 9th February 2020, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

Not necessarily. Retching when subjected to extremely disgusting stimuli is totally normal and for most of us it's pretty easy to work around such stimuli. Likewise,

Nausea, Vomiting Anxiety Symptoms

I bet the Anxiety Centre does recommend getting help for the nausea-inducing anxiety itself, though.

jimbob · 9th February 2020, 09:58 AM

Apologies for Twitter but I can't find the original video.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/1224787282156249094

He gets the music prompt and thinks it's fine to start playing at conducting it.

This is not normal.

jimbob · 9th February 2020, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Discussion was pretty much wrapped up in the first ten or so pages of the first part of this thread. At this point, people want to bump the thread anyway, and I don't mind playing along a bit. If you want to have more discussion, say something new. Or go find some thread with a conversation you want to have going on, and participate in it.

What about his makeup issues?

It might seem small, but either he's doing it himself, or he's letting/instructing someone else to send him out looking like that, and he doesn't correct it when looking in the mirror.

It's another sign of his cogitative decline.

xjx388 · 9th February 2020, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by jimbob

Apologies for Twitter but I can't find the original video.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/1224787282156249094

He gets the music prompt and thinks it's fine to start playing at conducting it.

This is not normal.

I’ll grant you that. It’s not “normal.”

But it also isn’t a sign of a “dangerous mental illness.”

jimbob · 9th February 2020, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by xjx388

I’ll grant you that. It’s not “normal.”

But it also isn’t a sign of a “dangerous mental illness.”

It's entirely consistent with him losing connection with reality and it warrants a proper medical examination.

Are you happy that someone with that behaviour is supposed to take high-level military decisions in a complex situation without any further check that he *is* actually still capable of command?

I've literally seen five* year-olds with better grasps of complex situations and appropriate behaviour.

*I initially said eight, then recalled some conversations with my kids and their friends in reception class.

xjx388 · 9th February 2020, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by jimbob

It's entirely consistent with him losing connection with reality and it warrants a proper medical examination.

Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious.

Quote:

Are you happy that someone with that behaviour is supposed to take high-level military decisions in a complex situation without any further check that he *is* actually still capable of command?

Happy? No. But I’m not also going to say that the silly little thing he did means he’s gonna launch nukes.

Minoosh · 9th February 2020, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jimbob

Are you happy that someone with that behaviour is supposed to take high-level military decisions in a complex situation without any further check that he *is* actually still capable of command?

Was he ever?

jimbob · 9th February 2020, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by xjx388

Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious.

Happy? No. But I’m not also going to say that the silly little thing he did means he’s gonna launch nukes.

You are missing the point. Alone, and out of context, any one might not be worrying. Together, they paint a picture.

Bizarre behaviour in the commander in chief is more concerning than in a random member of the public.

Skeptic Ginger · 9th February 2020, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by xjx388

Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious. ....

He's the POTUS and he was unable to sit still during the anthem. At a minimum it is concerning.

Steve · 9th February 2020, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by xjx388

Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious.

Happy? No. But I’m not also going to say that the silly little thing he did means he’s gonna launch nukes.

I could give a pass to Billy Bob in the seed cap who downed a 6 pack in the parking lot before the game. This dude is the president of your country. All his predecessors were capable of the appropriate decorum. You give him a pass because he may not be completelyoff his rocker, but only acts like a drunk.

TragicMonkey · 9th February 2020, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He's the POTUS and he was unable to sit still during the anthem. At a minimum it is concerning.

Is it possible he's actually a five-year-old with progeria? Because a lot of his behavior would be perfectly normal in a five-year-old. Admittedly one on the brattier end of the spectrum.

xjx388 · 9th February 2020, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He's the POTUS and he was unable to sit still during the anthem. At a minimum it is concerning.

What exactly is concerning, from a “dangerous mental illness,” standpoint? That was such a minor thing that at a maximum, it shows a lack of respect for decorum. Not exactly “dangerous.”

xjx388 · 9th February 2020, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I could give a pass to Billy Bob in the seed cap who downed a 6 pack in the parking lot before the game. This dude is the president of your country. All his predecessors were capable of the appropriate decorum. You give him a pass because he may not be completelyoff his rocker, but only acts like a drunk.

I never said I gave him a pass. I merely said that it isn’t indicative of “dangerous mental illness.”

Steve · 9th February 2020, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by xjx388

I never said I gave him a pass. I merely said that it isn’t indicative of “dangerous mental illness.”

Any mental illness in a person is his position is dangerous. Rational thought is a crucial part of the job.

8th February 2020, 12:39 PM	#168
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 64,839	Originally Posted by theprestige I dunno. Are you sure it's not a valuable window into their disturbed state of mind? Perhaps it's stress-induced acid reflux.
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8th February 2020, 01:13 PM	#170
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 64,839	Originally Posted by theprestige Is there a checklist in the DSM for that? It's got an ICD10 code, some where between the one for "orca attack, subsequent encounter" and "penile injury from fallen space debris".
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8th February 2020, 02:32 PM	#173
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by theprestige Far be it from me to diagnose someone based on their social media, but if your reaction is that extreme you may want to consult with a physician. You're taking your role as the new TBD way too seriously. It's not necessary to reply with a nasty comment to every post that dares express a personal negative opinion about Trump.
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8th February 2020, 03:38 PM	#177
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 28,553	Originally Posted by theprestige Can't say that I've put any effort into tracking that. Or even watching him for any period long enough to notice it was even happening. What's your methodology? Do you watch him live, and keep a diary? Well this is not normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9F...outu.be&t=5750 Nor was he doing this in 2017 to such an extent.
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8th February 2020, 04:02 PM	#179
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,415	Originally Posted by jimbob Well this is not normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9F...outu.be&t=5750 Nor was he doing this in 2017 to such an extent. Reminds me of that recent footage from FOX News where he appears to throw a tantrum in his limousine and does this huge... unvoluntary jerk or spasm. Can't find it on YouTube, unfortunately. eta Originally Posted by calebprime Now, it wasn't a lovely performance or a convincing act of human communication or persuasion, but the guy's a nitwit and has been under incredible stress, so it probably doesn't mean much. Now that the impeachment proceedings are over, he will have lots of Executive Time with TV and hamberders to relax until he stumbles into his next major crisis or scandal .
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7th February 2020, 07:16 PM	#161
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by jimbob Anyone else notice how his weird tics and grimaces are getting more frequent and longer? I can't watch him long enough to notice before having to rush to the vomitorium.

8th February 2020, 08:03 AM	#162
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I can't watch him long enough to notice before having to rush to the vomitorium. Far be it from me to diagnose someone based on their social media, but if your reaction is that extreme you may want to consult with a physician.

8th February 2020, 08:19 AM	#163
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	Originally Posted by theprestige Far be it from me to diagnose someone based on their social media, but if your reaction is that extreme you may want to consult with a physician. Why? I can't stand to listen to the bastard either. Pretty sure that is normal, definitely not extreme.

8th February 2020, 09:17 AM	#164
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Why? I can't stand to listen to the bastard either. Pretty sure that is normal, definitely not extreme. Becoming physically ill seems pretty extreme.

8th February 2020, 09:22 AM	#165
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	Originally Posted by theprestige Becoming physically ill seems pretty extreme. Physically ill? She's just leaving the football game early.

8th February 2020, 12:04 PM	#166
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	Originally Posted by theprestige Becoming physically ill seems pretty extreme. Usually when people say Trump makes them vomit they don't mean it literally.

8th February 2020, 12:29 PM	#167
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger : rolleyes : Usually when people say Trump makes them vomit they don't mean it literally. I dunno. Are you sure it's not a valuable window into their disturbed state of mind?

8th February 2020, 01:08 PM	#169
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Perhaps it's stress-induced acid reflux. Is there a checklist in the DSM for that?

8th February 2020, 01:21 PM	#171
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	When it comes to falling space debris, you see injury, but I see opportunity.

8th February 2020, 02:28 PM	#172
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	None of that sarcasm makes Trump's diagnosis any less valid.

8th February 2020, 02:49 PM	#174
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger None of that sarcasm makes Trump's diagnosis any less valid. Kind of hard to imagine how the "diagnosis" could be any less valid.

8th February 2020, 02:53 PM	#175
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by Stacyhs You're taking your role as the new TBD way too seriously. It's not necessary to reply with a nasty comment to every post that dares express a personal negative opinion about Trump. It sounds like your stomach is supplying all the nastiness. You want to make nasty comments, but you don't want to own them? That must be a bit queasy making, for sure.

8th February 2020, 02:59 PM	#176
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by theprestige It sounds like your stomach is supplying all the nastiness. You want to make nasty comments, but you don't want to own them? That must be a bit queasy making, for sure. I own and stand by my comment about Trump which was not directed at you or anyone in this forum. Yet you direct your nastiness at me personally and not for the first time. This all began when you insulted my mother for no reason and got called out for it by me and others. Grow up.

8th February 2020, 03:53 PM	#178
calebprime Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,001	Originally Posted by jimbob Well this is not normal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9F...outu.be&t=5750 Nor was he doing this in 2017 to such an extent. I watched his interview with Fox the day of the senate's impeachment decision, with the sound off. Fwiw -- not much -- I found his eye asymmetry quite odd -- how he was squinting out of one eye and focussing with the other, seemingly. And then instead of looking at the interviewer, his eyes would obviously fixate over to another location when he wanted to recall something. Also, not a happy face. Strained and tired. Now, it wasn't a lovely performance or a convincing act of human communication or persuasion, but the guy's a nitwit and has been under incredible stress, so it probably doesn't mean much.

8th February 2020, 04:15 PM	#180
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	Originally Posted by theprestige Kind of hard to imagine how the "diagnosis" could be any less valid. Dude, you are late to this party. No one supports that nonsense, even a certain person arguing the psychiatrists were unethical. So that leaves one likely conclusion, purposeful trolling.

8th February 2020, 04:30 PM	#181
xjx388 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 11,312	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Dude, you are late to this party. No one supports that nonsense, even a certain person arguing the psychiatrists were unethical. So that leaves one likely conclusion, purposeful trolling. Not really. The quality of a diagnosis has little to do with ethics and more to do with the methodology one uses to arrive at it. There is no methodology in psychology/psychiatry for diagnosing people based on tweets, public appearances, etc. Therefore, the diagnosis can be rejected. The ethics of the situation is simply that they shouldn’t be speculating about the mental state of a public figure they haven’t personally examined in the first place. There are two prongs of my objection.
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8th February 2020, 06:11 PM	#182
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	Originally Posted by xjx388 Not really. The quality of a diagnosis has little to do with ethics and more to do with the methodology one uses to arrive at it. There is no methodology in psychology/psychiatry for diagnosing people based on tweets, public appearances, etc. Therefore, the diagnosis can be rejected. The ethics of the situation is simply that they shouldn’t be speculating about the mental state of a public figure they haven’t personally examined in the first place. There are two prongs of my objection. So now you're back to denying what we can all see with our own eyes?

8th February 2020, 07:41 PM	#183
Steve Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 12,006	There are people in this world who act, or would like to act, just like Trump in their daily lives. Those people really do think he is “normal” and will never recognize or understand how bizarre Trump is.
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8th February 2020, 07:50 PM	#184
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by Steve There are people in this world who act, or would like to act, just like Trump in their daily lives. Those people really do think he is “normal” and will never recognize or understand how bizarre Trump is. And, somehow not coincidentally, those people tend to defend Trump no matter what he does.

8th February 2020, 07:55 PM	#185
Steve Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney Nova Scotia Posts: 12,006	Originally Posted by Stacyhs And, somehow not coincidentally, those people tend to defend Trump no matter what he does. Yes because, whether they are aware of it or not, they are defending themselves at the same time.
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8th February 2020, 08:01 PM	#186
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,611	Originally Posted by Steve Yes because, whether they are aware of it or not, they are defending themselves at the same time. I agree with that 100%.

9th February 2020, 09:27 AM	#187
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,024	Originally Posted by Minoosh Not necessarily. Retching when subjected to extremely disgusting stimuli is totally normal and for most of us it's pretty easy to work around such stimuli. Likewise, Nausea, Vomiting Anxiety Symptoms I bet the Anxiety Centre does recommend getting help for the nausea-inducing anxiety itself, though.

9th February 2020, 09:58 AM	#188
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 28,553	Apologies for Twitter but I can't find the original video. https://twitter.com/funder/status/1224787282156249094 He gets the music prompt and thinks it's fine to start playing at conducting it. This is not normal.
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9th February 2020, 10:03 AM	#189
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 28,553	Originally Posted by theprestige Discussion was pretty much wrapped up in the first ten or so pages of the first part of this thread. At this point, people want to bump the thread anyway, and I don't mind playing along a bit. If you want to have more discussion, say something new. Or go find some thread with a conversation you want to have going on, and participate in it. What about his makeup issues? It might seem small, but either he's doing it himself, or he's letting/instructing someone else to send him out looking like that, and he doesn't correct it when looking in the mirror. It's another sign of his cogitative decline.
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9th February 2020, 10:06 AM	#190
xjx388 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 11,312	Originally Posted by jimbob Apologies for Twitter but I can't find the original video. https://twitter.com/funder/status/1224787282156249094 He gets the music prompt and thinks it's fine to start playing at conducting it. This is not normal. I’ll grant you that. It’s not “normal.” But it also isn’t a sign of a “dangerous mental illness.”
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9th February 2020, 10:30 AM	#191
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 28,553	Originally Posted by xjx388 I’ll grant you that. It’s not “normal.” But it also isn’t a sign of a “dangerous mental illness.” It's entirely consistent with him losing connection with reality and it warrants a proper medical examination. Are you happy that someone with that behaviour is supposed to take high-level military decisions in a complex situation without any further check that he is actually still capable of command? I've literally seen five* year-olds with better grasps of complex situations and appropriate behaviour. *I initially said eight, then recalled some conversations with my kids and their friends in reception class.
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9th February 2020, 04:34 PM	#192
xjx388 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 11,312	Originally Posted by jimbob It's entirely consistent with him losing connection with reality and it warrants a proper medical examination. Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious. Quote: Are you happy that someone with that behaviour is supposed to take high-level military decisions in a complex situation without any further check that he is actually still capable of command? Happy? No. But I’m not also going to say that the silly little thing he did means he’s gonna launch nukes.
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9th February 2020, 04:54 PM	#193
Minoosh Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12,494	Originally Posted by jimbob Are you happy that someone with that behaviour is supposed to take high-level military decisions in a complex situation without any further check that he is actually still capable of command? Was he ever?

9th February 2020, 05:14 PM	#194
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 28,553	Originally Posted by xjx388 Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious. Happy? No. But I’m not also going to say that the silly little thing he did means he’s gonna launch nukes. You are missing the point. Alone, and out of context, any one might not be worrying. Together, they paint a picture. Bizarre behaviour in the commander in chief is more concerning than in a random member of the public.
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9th February 2020, 05:57 PM	#195
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,991	Originally Posted by xjx388 Exaggeration. He pretends to conduct the national anthem and he needs a medical exam? Get serious. .... He's the POTUS and he was unable to sit still during the anthem. At a minimum it is concerning.