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Old 17th January 2023, 10:46 AM   #241
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Originally Posted by gnome View Post
Because when he steps out of line to promote their interests, it can be passed of as "he's just crazy, look at his record".
Which, in turn, completely undermines Russian interests because he is constantly crazy and obviously "bought". So he seems to not be a great choice for them. I don't think they would make that basic a mistake. Wouldn't you want your Manchurian Candidate to be a little less obvious?
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Old 17th January 2023, 10:53 AM   #242
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Santos is perfect for Democrat ads in 2024.

"Vote for the guys who gave you George Santos, or the guys who have you Barack Obama. The choice is yours!"
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Old 17th January 2023, 10:59 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by Hercules56 View Post
Santos is perfect for Democrat ads in 2024.

"Vote for the guys who gave you George Santos, or the guys who have you Barack Obama. The choice is yours!"
I'm ashamed to say that in large parts of the US that would result in a switch of votes towards the GOP.
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Old 17th January 2023, 12:01 PM   #244
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Are we sure his name is even George?
So I was asking this question as a joke, but it turns out I was actually onto something?
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Old 17th January 2023, 12:07 PM   #245
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Which, in turn, completely undermines Russian interests because he is constantly crazy and obviously "bought". So he seems to not be a great choice for them. I don't think they would make that basic a mistake. Wouldn't you want your Manchurian Candidate to be a little less obvious?
The perfect double bluff.
Wouldn’t you want your Manchurian candidate to have a personality that makes people say “he can’t be the Manchurian candidate - it’s too obvious.”

And his handlers can quietly spread a rumor: yes, he’s been bought but he’s been bought by American business interests, therefore we can trust him.
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Old 17th January 2023, 12:22 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
The perfect double bluff.
Wouldn’t you want your Manchurian candidate to have a personality that makes people say “he can’t be the Manchurian candidate - it’s too obvious.”

And his handlers can quietly spread a rumor: yes, he’s been bought but he’s been bought by American business interests, therefore we can trust him.
You're talking about fooling people who believe that putting on a pair of spectacles makes a crazy criminal 100% sane and respectable. It isn't a stretch.
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Old 17th January 2023, 02:17 PM   #247
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
You're talking about fooling people who believe that putting on a pair of spectacles makes a crazy criminal 100% sane and respectable. It isn't a stretch.
No, no, no...putting on glasses makes someone look intellekchual, therefore part of the elite and not to be trusted!
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Old 17th January 2023, 03:40 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
No, no, no...putting on glasses makes someone look intellekchual, therefore part of the elite and not to be trusted!
OK, then!

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Old 17th January 2023, 08:05 PM   #249
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A former roommate and friend of Santos' says the rep. was always lying about things and even stole things from him. He also said Santos took money from his mother (who was cleaner) and would blow through it and would set up Go Fund Me pages to grift money for his non-existent pet charity. He also said Santos claimed Jews would donate more if they thought he was Jewish.

A chip off the old Trump.
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Old 17th January 2023, 08:43 PM   #250
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The talented Mr. Santos

Originally Posted by I Am The Scum View Post
So I was asking this question as a joke, but it turns out I was actually onto something?
He called himself Anthony Devolder in a 2019 video. Maybe he is George-ish?
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It's gonna turn out he's really D.B. Cooper Jr. and this will all make sense.
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Originally Posted by gabeygoat View Post
Andy Kaufmann
Jimmy Hoffa.
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Old 18th January 2023, 04:49 AM   #253
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He called himself Anthony Devolder in a 2019 video. Maybe he is George-ish?
His use of the name Anthony Devolder goes back a number of years, according to his roommate, in this CNN interview.
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Old 18th January 2023, 06:58 AM   #254
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His use of the name Anthony Devolder goes back a number of years, according to his roommate, in this CNN interview.
At this time I question if he is even Human or does he come from The planet Fibulan 5?
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Old 18th January 2023, 07:08 AM   #255
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At this time I question if he is even Human or does he come from The planet Fibulan 5?
I am thinking maybe a Slitheen, from Dr. Who.
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At this time I question if he is even Human or does he come from The planet Fibulan 5?
He does seem to have a flat affect in the photos and videos I've seen of him.
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Old 18th January 2023, 07:21 AM   #257
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CNN found a Twitter exchange Devolder/Santos had in June 2020. A client complains that Deutsche Bank termed the protection for their principle to be "a complete fraud." When asked to explain, Devolder/Santos tweeted, "Sorry I'm not following you."



A Nassau County (NY) Republican suggested that given the level and scope of Santos' lying he needs professional help. Meanwhile, Republican Matt Gaetz says Devolder/Santos shouldn't be "shunned."
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Old 18th January 2023, 08:16 AM   #258
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A Kansas TV station, KOAM-TV, reports:
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Republican Rep. George Santos, said a company later accused of running a "Ponzi scheme" was "100% legitimate" when it was accused by a potential customer of fraud in 2020, more than a year before it was sued by the US Securities and Exchange Commission. Once the company, where he worked, came under federal scrutiny, Santos claimed publicly that he was unaware of accusations of fraud at the firm, a CNN KFile review of Santos' social media and statements found...In fact, according to the SEC complaint, "at no point" was Harbor City Capital "ever issued a SBLC," despite claims from the company. Dylan Riddle, a spokesman for Deutsche Bank, told CNN on Monday that they had no affiliation with Harbor City Capital. "Harbor City Capital was not a client of Deutsche Bank," he said. KOAM news link
What's going to be his fallback? At the time he stated Harbor City had been issued an SBLC by various banks including Deutsche Bank, "He believed it to be true. But Mr. Santos later determined that it was not true."

If Santos is reminded, despite saying he was "unaware" of any accusations of fraud, there is documented proof that he was made aware. Fallback? "I'm sorry I don't remember that."

As Steve Martin once put it:
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Want to rob a bank and get away with it? First, rob a bank. If caught, explain, "I forgot it was illegal to rob a bank." You had no criminal intent. They can't touch you!"
I guess George Devolder/Santos thought he was serious.
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Old 18th January 2023, 12:52 PM   #259
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It does work, if everyone with the power to enact consequences lets it.
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If there wasn't already enough of a reason to hate the man:

George Santos took $3,000 from dying dog’s GoFundMe, veterans say:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/polit...dme/index.html
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Are we SURE Santos isn't Trump's love child?

Santos is everything Trump would have been if Trump had not been born into a wealthy family. The only difference is the level of grifting.
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Are we SURE Santos isn't Trump's love child?
Of course he's not. Trump hasn't tried to bang him yet.

He's Hershel Walker's love child.
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fake news?

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If there wasn't already enough of a reason to hate the man:

George Santos took $3,000 from dying dog’s GoFundMe, veterans say:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/polit...dme/index.html
Santos claims that this is fake news. Long pause.

If someone had written a farce-satire of politics in Washington and were the slightest bit interested in plausibility, he or she would not have come up with anything half as outrageous as the Santos/Devolder story is.
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So, Santos has been put on the Science, Space, and Technology Committee.
Probably because republicans confuse science fiction with science.
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The Klingons would just beam this guy into deep space without any hesitation. Actually, even Kirk would.
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Well this is still getting weird.
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NEW: I just spoke by phone with Eula Rochard, a Brazilian drag queen who was friends with George Santos when he lived near Rio. She said everyone knew him as Anthony (*never* George), or by his drag name, Kitara, and confirms this photo is from a 2008 drag show at Icaraí Beach.
Ordinarily I would say this is too much to believe, but for [insert his real name here] I'll make an exception.
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Plus, he’s not only generating divisiveness between Dems and Reps, he’s also generating divisiveness among Republicans.

The part I don’t understand is why there isn’t a group of Republicans claiming that his claim are true: he was a great volleyball player and he did graduate from that college. They could claim that the lyin’ Democrats are lyin’ because that what liars do.
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Well this is still getting weird.


Ordinarily I would say this is too much to believe, but for [insert his real name here] I'll make an exception.
If Kitara is supposed to be Santos, his fat 'middle' doesn't match. The image is too blurry.
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That the GOP Leadershiphas embraced this guy shows how corrupt they have become.
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Santos takes a new hit, in a story that seemingly surfaced only an hour or two ago. Santos has said "consistently" that Fatima Devolder, his mother, was at work in her office at World Trade Center when it came under attack on 9/11. But the New York Times reports a review of immigration records creates doubt that the story is true.
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In an application for a visa to enter the United States filed in 2003, Ms. Devolder said that she had left the country for Brazil in June 1999 and had not returned since. In earlier paperwork filed in June 2001, three months before the attacks, Ms. Devolder said that she had been unable to return to the United States since 1999 because her green card had been stolen in Brazil. New York Times link
The Times contacted Santos' office before releasing the story but has not received any reply.
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That the GOP Leadership has embraced this guy shows how corrupt they have become [been for a very long time].
ftfy

I realize neither party is corruption free, especially if you go back far enough. But if it was a race to hell, the GOP started lapping the Democrats at about the time GW Bush was elected.
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I love the excuse the GOP is giving for putting Santos on committees: he hasn't been convicted of anything.

He's only been proven to be an egregious, habitual liar and lied about almost everything he ever said about himself as a candidate.

The GOP continues to show itself for what it is.
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I love the excuse the GOP is giving for putting Santos on committees: he hasn't been convicted of anything.

He's only been proven to be an egregious, habitual liar and lied about almost everything he ever said about himself as a candidate.

The GOP continues to show itself for what it is.
Not to mention neither Schiff nor Swalwell have been convicted of anything either yet McCarthy wants them off their committees. But then why let hypocrisy get in the way of anything.

The Hill: McCarthy amplifies vow to keep Schiff, Swalwell off Intel Committee

I'm sure there's an excuse ap for that.

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Not to mention neither Schiff nor Swalwell have been convicted of anything either yet McCarthy wants them off their committees. But then why let hypocrisy get in the way of anything.

The Hill: McCarthy amplifies vow to keep Schiff, Swalwell off Intel Committee

I'm sure there's an excuse ap for that.
No one ever lost money betting the GOP are the Masters of Hypocrisy. Or the most incredibly self-unaware people walking on the planet.
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ftfy

I realize neither party is corruption free, especially if you go back far enough. But if it was a race to hell, the GOP started lapping the Democrats at about the time GW Bush was elected.
... and lapped them again when The Fat Orange Turd was elected in 2016... at which point the the turbocharger kicked in!
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No one ever lost money betting the GOP are the Masters of Hypocrisy. Or the most incredibly self-unaware people walking on the planet.
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... and lapped them again when The Fat Orange Turd was elected in 2016... at which point the the turbocharger kicked in!
I'm surprised they didn't announce Santos will be on the committee to investigate Hunter Biden, of course, that might not stop him from claiming he's on it anyway.
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He is Hunter Biden!
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He is Hunter Biden!
Then where's his ******* laptop?!
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Isn't this how Trump and his children would have enriched themselves if they hadn't been born into the upper classes? Collecting money for charity and being charitable only to themselves?

Ex-roommate says he never knew George Santos by that name (CNN on YouTube, Jan 17, 2023)
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What would John Barron, John Miller, David Dennison or Carolin Gallego do?!

Santos Grifted A Vet And His Sick Dog (The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on YouTube, Jan 19, 2023)
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Too bad that TBD is no longer here to tell us about grifters!
Santos is definitely Trumpian ... or is it Trump-ish?!

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George Washington: "I cannot tell a lie"
George Santos: "I cannot tell the truth"

House Republicans: "I cannot tell the difference!"
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No, no, no...putting on glasses makes someone look intellekchual, therefore part of the elite and not to be trusted!
Just ask the Khmer Rouge.
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