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Old 5th September 2018, 01:04 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
The headline of that link:


Henri McPhee: were you quoting this article as evidence for the veracity of the anti-Clinton conspiracy theories, or for their obvious idiocy? I really can't tell. The article itself is saying how stupid they are. Is that why you linked to it?



Also in your post, you say that these stories are "off-limits with the copporate mainstream media" and then go on to quote Fox News reporting on it, which is about as corporate and mainstream as you could ask for.

Is it your intention to shoot down your own arguments, or am I missing something here?
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Old 7th September 2018, 09:10 AM   #162
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There is an interesting website about the death of Jenny Moore which even implies that Google are trying to hush it up:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...toll/78146754/

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If you've been following the death toll all the way back to their Arkansas days you will be hard-pressed to find this one their resume. It looks like they're running out of ways to die and they had to pull the seizure card. They usually go with the plane crash, suicide with a couple of Knife insertions to the chest. Glad to see they are starting to mix it up.

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Old 7th September 2018, 09:29 AM   #163
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
There is an interesting website about the death of Jenny Moore which even implies that Google are trying to hush it up:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/...toll/78146754/
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Google is trying to keep this out of the news

If you search for Jen Moore Clinton or Jenny Moore Clinton the only hits are from a couple of fake news sites about her death, all saying the same things

They're burying her years of investigative journalism on this story!
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Old 8th September 2018, 12:22 PM   #164
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
There needs to be some routine police work with regard to these long lists of mysterious deaths associated with the Clintons
Given that these "long lists" exist only in the fevered imaginations of fools those pandering to them, no.
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Old 9th September 2018, 11:08 AM   #165
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post

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Any conspiracy theory that involves Michael Riconosciuto and Ted Gunderson as participants fails right out of the gate.

My .02:

Danny Casolaro chased R. & G. down the rabbit hole looking for "The Octopus."

When he finally came to the realization that he had wasted years of his life listening to crackpots and buying what they were lying about and his theory was formed by the lies he was being told by Riconsciuto et al he couldn't face his failure. He was near bankruptcy and he himself had begun to lie to friends and family about the status of his investigation and the possibility of a publishing deal

As with almost all conspiracy theories this one starts with a factual situation - It's clear that the Hamiltons' (the inventor of the PROMIS software) were ripped off by the DOJ. Enter Riconsciuto. At that point, the line between fiction and fact disappeared and the real victims in this - the Hamiltons - were lost in the shuffle to find the most outrageous possible conspiracy possible.

It's also worthwhile to note that Casolaro had already been seduced by the conspiracy theory pushed by the Christic Institute involving wholesale wrongdoing by individuals and government officials during the funding of the Contras.

The difference between Christic and Casolaro is that Christic got their claims into court and failed and Casolaro ended his life before he had to face the same fate. The below concerning Christic's court case can be reasonably applied to Casolaro's "Octopus" theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...virgan_v._Hull

Avirgan v. Hull

In 1986, the Christic Institute filed a $24 million civil suit on behalf of journalists Tony Avirgan and Martha Honey stating that various individuals were part of a conspiracy responsible for the La Penca bombing that injured Avirgan.[2][3] The suit charged the defendants of illegally participating in assassinations, as well as arms and drug trafficking.[2] Among the 30 defendants named were Iran–Contra figures John K. Singlaub, Richard V. Secord, Albert Hakim, and Robert W. Owen; Central Intelligence Agency officials Thomas Clines and Theodore Shackley; Contra leader Adolfo Calero; Medellin cartel leaders Pablo Escobar Gaviria and Jorge Ochoa Vasquez; Costa Rican rancher John Hull; and former mercenary Sam N. Hall.[2][3][4]

On June 23, 1988, United States federal judge James Lawrence King of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida dismissed the case stating: "The plaintiffs have made no showing of existence of genuine issues of material fact with respect to either the bombing at La Penca, the threats made to their news sources or threats made to themselves."[2] According to The New York Times, the case was dismissed by King at least in part due to "the fact that the vast majority of the 79 witnesses Mr. Sheehan cites as authorities were either dead, unwilling to testify, fountains of contradictory information or at best one person removed from the facts they were describing."[5] On February 3, 1989, King ordered the Christic Institute to pay $955,000 in attorneys fees and $79,500 in court costs.[3] The United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit affirmed the ruling, and the Supreme Court of the United States let the judgment stand by refusing to hear an additional appeal.[4][6] The IRS stripped the Institute of its 501(c)(3) nonprofit status after claiming the suit was politically motivated.[7][page needed][8] The fine was levied in accordance with “Rule 11” of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which says that lawyers can be penalized for frivolous lawsuits.[9]

In the wake of the dismissal, Christic attorneys and Honey and Avirgan traded accusations over who was to blame for the failure of the case. Avirgan complained that Sheehan had handled matters poorly by chasing unsubstantiated "wild allegations" and conspiracy theories, rather than paying attention to core factual issues.
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