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Old 3rd July 2018, 07:20 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
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Brevity and conciseness are two friends you should meet.
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Old 3rd July 2018, 07:43 AM   #42
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Brevity and conciseness are two friends you should meet.
I don't think they're on speaking terms.
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@rlopez2: I don't think anyone finds your post intellectually challenging, as you so condescendingly surmise. It's a garbled train wreck. Pick your points to discuss, and keep them short and clear. Clear. In a paragraph or so, what do you want to discuss?
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Old 3rd July 2018, 09:37 AM   #44
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I don't think they're on speaking terms.
I think they are exchanging gunfire as we speak.

I worked with foreign student (non native English speakers) for decades - I wonder what his native tongue is?
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I honestly, seriously, and with no snark do wonder sometimes; do people who talk in word salad not know they are talking in word salad?
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
I honestly, seriously, and with no snark do wonder sometimes; do people who talk in word salad not know they are talking in word salad?
Linguistic vegetarianism?
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I think they are exchanging gunfire as we speak.

I worked with foreign student (non native English speakers) for decades - I wonder what his native tongue is?
He used the word "gringos" (non-hispanics) a few times so, native language Spanish probably. I did not read the whole garbled mess but just noticed that word used.
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I told them I hadn't had any kind of skin-to-skin contact with any other living thing.

At first, I thought that you might be an AI, but since you write "other (!) living thing", I guess you must either have been a test-tube baby or from your mother's womb untimely ripped.
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for those interested in knowing what the deal with targeted individuals is about ...

OK, for those people interested in knowing what the deal with "targeted individuals" is about (instead of the sophistication of the English languages, "proper" language usage, ...), who may run into this thread you should search on:

"ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com" 2018/03/09 "unity-et-hope-et-laura-yan"

"ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com" 2017/06/15 "main-individual-targeting-us"

"ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com" 2017/07/27
"technical-what-how-why-of-targeted-individuals-political_persecution_us"

"ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com" 2017/07/27
"social-what-how-why-of-targeted-individuals-political_persecution_us"

"ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com" 2017/06/15 "well-known-targeted-individual-us"
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those were drafts of a wikipedia pages we were trying to publish, but the reaction of wikipedians was like this one (and worse):

en wikipedia wiki Talk:Microwave_auditory_effect "Conspiracy theories"

and I have avoided adjectives here.
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Try posing it to the forum in such a way that it seems coherent. No one is interested in doing random research.
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Old 3rd July 2018, 03:15 PM   #51
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RE: @rlopez2: I don't think anyone finds your post intellectually challenging . . .

One of the most interesting part of your (group "you" here) reactions (and no I don't care about ad hominem non sense) is the mind reading aspect of them, yet, you can't even see my not "condescending", but -sarcastic- reaction was due to your demands for "brevity", "conciseness", . . .

"Please, could you dumb down for me 'whatever the point is'?" . . .

Let me make it "brief" and "concise" enough for the metabolism of your brains:

"yes, we can!"

Now wasn't that much, much better!?!

"Normalcy bias" (and here I am not trying to sound like some crazy big **** is about to happen, but more like in a "you see what you know" kind of way) is one of the most interesting kinds of psychological reactions. I have observed the reactions of people after they have realized that I was talking about was true. I don't really care about something sounding implausible or not, all I care about is if it is falsifiable?

The best thing about it all is that people reading this now and in the future will make their own conclusions about both your "skepticism", "super brain powers", "language usage skills", . . . and my "conspiratory" rants.

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RE: @rlopez2: I don't think anyone finds your post intellectually challenging . . .

One of the most interesting part of your (group "you" here) reactions (and no I don't care about ad hominem non sense) is the mind reading aspect of them, yet, you can't even see my not "condescending", but -sarcastic- reaction was due to your demands for "brevity", "conciseness", . . .

"Please, could you dumb down for me 'whatever the point is'?" . . .

Let me make it "brief" and "concise" enough for the metabolism of your brains:

"yes, we can!"

Now wasn't that much, much better!?!

"Normalcy bias" (and here I am not trying to sound like some crazy big **** is about to happen, but more like in a "you see what you know" kind of way) is one of the most interesting kinds of psychological reactions. I have observed the reactions of people after they have realized that I was talking about was true. I don't really care about something sounding implausible or not, all I care about is if it is falsifiable?

The best thing about it all is that people reading this now and in the future will make their own conclusions about both your "skepticism", "super brain powers", "language usage skills", . . . and my "conspiratory" rants.

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Please note how I conveniently hit the quote button for clarity as a courtesy to readers.

Rlopez2, no one is asking you to dumb anything down. I am sure you will find very substantial responses, should you post in a way that makes sense. It is hard to read your own words as if someone else was reading them, but please try. From this end, it reads very garbled. I'm sure you think your points are made clearly, but as you should be able to gauge from the responses, they are not.

And I explained how to use the quote feature. It's really simple. Give it a try.
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Old 3rd July 2018, 03:29 PM   #53
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Something else that I find suspect is that wikipedia has quite long and elaborate entries about: UFOs, Illuminati, Satanism, "white" supremacy, flat earth, ... and all kinds of unimaginable nonsense, but when you try to talk about MKUltra 2.0 they go: No, ******, no! Even if one after the other all the things many TIs have been talking about turned out to be true.

I don't believe in "alternate facts". I may not be the best person to explain such matters and I don't even know if there is a "brief" and "concise" way to explain them, but there are new very wrong "social control" developments happening and we are all engulfed in it.

People should open their eyes to where they are being driven. At the very least they should have the right to know

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There is an opening on the Quick Hit thread. How do you feel about Canadians?
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Ahh! Targeted Individuals! The only way to have 200% of the work force fully employed spying on insignificant people.
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Oh, is this actually a *gangstalking* thread?
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Oh, is this actually a *gangstalking* thread?
Yep it seems to be - it took a while to figure out what he was going on about.

I checked some of his links they appear to be to his own blog:

https://ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com/...individual-us/
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I may not be the best person to explain such matters and I don't even know if there is a "brief" and "concise" way to explain them,
Snipped for brevity.

Then you don't really understand what you're talking about. Being brief and concise isn't dumbing down what you're talking about, in fact it's the opposite. Summation is actually an intelligent way to introduce ideas into a discussion, especially a new discussion or different point of view. Then, when further pressed you can go into more detail about a certain aspect. But identifying the key statements and points of your topic is actually a very intelligent way to discuss things. Especially on the internet. No one has time to read a page long post. If you can't succinctly summarize your points then you're just rambling.
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I'm on vacation, so I have time to read a one-page post. What I lack is the willingness to spend effort on incoherent rambling, no matter what the length of the post.
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RE: Oh, is this actually a *gangstalking* thread?
RE: Ahh! Targeted Individuals! The only way to have 200% of the work force fully employed spying on insignificant people.

I assure you this is definitely not "just" about gangstalking "insignificant people". It is about social control to degrees impossible before in history of mankind. It is like technology have make it possible for them to keep everyone in a virtual jail. TIs are "just" the ones receiving the freak treatment

RE: Snipped for brevity.
RE: Then you don't really understand what you're talking abou

Could you, please, explain to me corruption by USG in two or three short sentences?

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Let me guess... It's a thread about not learning to use the Quote function even with instruction?
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TIs are "just" the ones EXPERIMENTALLY receiving the freak treatment and it seems all be AI-based. If some companies need to test a drug or some ******** on people, as they dreamed since MK-Ultra times they don't need to use people in jail anymore. THEY HAVE EVERYONE IN A VIRTUAL JAIL ANYWAY! They have been playing some sort of social control AI on every body in society. Read the initial comment from that guy from Germany
There are many people being used for "mind control" experimentation committing suicide and doing harm to others, because, as they say the government is "reading, implanting dreams, hijacking, ... their minds"
They have been using animals for social control experimentation and since the late 1990's human beings
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Any evidence? And what's this virtual jail?
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to the one that said DEW are only used in wars against crowds, today they are portable and they fit in a large book pack. The CEO of one of such manufacturers was even joking about those devices being targeted towards people's specific organs and their somatic and neurobiological reactions. I wonder what his reaction would be if they use them on his own family and himself
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Show us the footage or the quote of this CEO.
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TIs are "just" the ones EXPERIMENTALLY receiving the freak treatment and it seems all be AI-based. If some companies need to test a drug or some ******** on people, as they dreamed since MK-Ultra times they don't need to use people in jail anymore. THEY HAVE EVERYONE IN A VIRTUAL JAIL ANYWAY! They have been playing some sort of social control AI on every body in society. Read the initial comment from that guy from Germany
There are many people being used for "mind control" experimentation committing suicide and doing harm to others, because, as they say the government is "reading, implanting dreams, hijacking, ... their minds"
They have been using animals for social control experimentation and since the late 1990's human beings
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Except you, presumably.
How did you manage to escape, and why are you being allowed to tell the rest of us unwitting prisoners about it?
I'm guessing that escaping from this fiendish mind control is considerably easier than learning how to use the quote function on an internet forum. I can almost taste the freedom I'm about to experience.
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Any evidence? And what's this virtual jail?
Duh. Quite obviously, the virtual jail is for people who use reality-based evidence.
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AIUI, Virtual jail is when a TI is allowed to freely roam unhindered because the entire population of the world are watching their every move preventing the TI from, well, nothing. It's exactly like real jail except you are not locked up, can do whatever you want, write about your experiences, talk to anyone you want, and live your life without restrictions. Oh the horror.
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I'm guessing that escaping from this fiendish mind control is considerably easier than learning how to use the quote function on an internet forum. I can almost taste the freedom I'm about to experience.

Patience, Cosmic Yak!
After joining the JREF forum, it also took me a couple of posts to get the hang of the quotation function.
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Patience, Cosmic Yak!
After joining the JREF forum, it also took me a couple of posts to get the hang of the quotation function.
You still have a lot to learn.

About posting long, nonsensical rants, that is.
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RE: Show us the footage or the quote of this CEO.
// __ youtube a5rOBI81_Nk Interview with Aaronia´s CEO at the EMC 2015 in Shanghai/China

It is a 6+ minute video. I don't have the time right now to tell you exactly when/how he said it, but you can download the vtt file and search for it yourself in seconds. Also, this i sjust one example, they are all boasting about DEW and selling them in the open market as if they were dishwashers

Wikipedia even let them use their pages for what is very obviously advertising, but when TI try to make their case, we are told we are just crazy nuts even if we can falsifiably make our points. We have been saying for two decades that we were listening to "voices" directed at us ..., but now itis cool to say and do that
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RE: Show us the footage or the quote of this CEO.
// __ youtube a5rOBI81_Nk Interview with Aaronia´s CEO at the EMC 2015 in Shanghai/China

It is a 6+ minute video. I don't have the time right now to tell you exactly when/how he said it, but you can download the vtt file and search for it yourself in seconds. Also, this i sjust one example, they are all boasting about DEW and selling them in the open market as if they were dishwashers

Wikipedia even let them use their pages for what is very obviously advertising, but when TI try to make their case, we are told we are just crazy nuts even if we can falsifiably make our points. We have been saying for two decades that we were listening to "voices" directed at us ..., but now itis cool to say and do that
It's 6:40, and I watched it *twice* from end to end. He does not make any jokes, and nothing about pointing things at people.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5rOBI81_Nk

For context: It's Aaronia CEO(?) doing a presentation of the company's products at a Shanghai trade show. The items described are antennae of various frequencies, active and passive, rf probes, and spectrum analysers. He's particularly proud of the company's analysis software.
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RE: It's 6:40, and I watched it *twice* from end to end. He does not make any jokes, and nothing about pointing things at people ...

Actually, I have been using public libraries, because, once again ... , my Internet access and telephone has been caught off. In a sense, my bad, sorry and thank you, I tried to show that other person apparently speaking out of his own emotions saying that DEWs need to be carry in trucks to just mess with one person, that DEW and their operating environment can be carried around as if they were laptops and you can clearly see that in that video.

Here is the other video I was talking about. Could you please, post the actual link this time as well?

Aaronia AG (one of the most advanced DEW manufacturers) CEO, Thorsten Chmielus:

// __ Aaronia Smart RF-Generator up to 6GHz (youtube kmVKyOt2oVc t=2m50s)

cracking jokes and compulsively laughing about definitely more than their DEWs tells us:

"[our programmable DEW you can also use ] ... as a jammer, but I didn't say that, of course, because I think it is not allowed anywhere, but we call it 'field strength generator' and then 'it sounds more familiar' and you can use it".

Anyone with a technical sense of reality would find preposterous the "discreet", "no-touch" aspect that the government claims as one of the "advantages" of DEWs. I wonder what would happen is people beam Thorsten and his family with the EM waves caused with the very DEWs made by his company as the government does to so many victims, even babies. He should no problem with it as long as they use 'field strength generator', right?

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Also, I couldn't find the link to an "interesting" article at theIntercept.com in which they were criticizing Trump for undoing "progressive" laws and regulations that Obama had put in place. One of them was a green light the deep state, police and "business as usual" had been unsuccessfully pushing for ever since (no U.S. president ever allowed for that): allowing for local police departments to have and use their cake of military-grade weaponry.Obama, who did everything in his capacity to solidify all "laws" and regulations to secure free range for police state USA, but, hey!, always showing a "cool" smile.
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OP: I have found evidence of a weapons manufacturer mocking the victims of his mind control weapons!

*Turns out to be a guy who makes broadcasting and receiving equipment presenting his new products*

OP: See, see?

No, we don't see... or could you explain to us how these antennae are used to broadcast things directly into your mind?

(Maybe I should just give up, the general incoherence and paranoid delusions in these posts could be indicative of something that can't be solved by posting on a forum)
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I have watched the first video too, and it is nothing like the OP describes.

One question: I'm not the most technically-minded of people, so could someone please clarify:
I thought antennas were meant to receive, not to transmit?
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
RE: It's 6:40, and I watched it *twice* from end to end. He does not make any jokes, and nothing about pointing things at people ...

Actually, I have been using public libraries, because, once again ... , my Internet access and telephone has been caught off. In a sense, my bad, sorry and thank you, I tried to show that other person apparently speaking out of his own emotions saying that DEWs need to be carry in trucks to just mess with one person, that DEW and their operating environment can be carried around as if they were laptops and you can clearly see that in that video.

Here is the other video I was talking about. Could you please, post the actual link this time as well?

Aaronia AG (one of the most advanced DEW manufacturers) CEO, Thorsten Chmielus:

// __ Aaronia Smart RF-Generator up to 6GHz (youtube kmVKyOt2oVc t=2m50s)

cracking jokes and compulsively laughing about definitely more than their DEWs tells us:

"[our programmable DEW you can also use ] ... as a jammer, but I didn't say that, of course, because I think it is not allowed anywhere, but we call it 'field strength generator' and then 'it sounds more familiar' and you can use it".

Anyone with a technical sense of reality would find preposterous the "discreet", "no-touch" aspect that the government claims as one of the "advantages" of DEWs. I wonder what would happen is people beam Thorsten and his family with the EM waves caused with the very DEWs made by his company as the government does to so many victims, even babies. He should no problem with it as long as they use 'field strength generator', right?

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Again, you are not quoting the youtube correctly:
  • The CEO correctly describes it throughout as an RF signal generator, not a DEW.
  • "Compulsive laughing" is a gross mischaracterisation of the CEO giving a slight chuckle at his own joke.
  • The laptop runs the scripting software that sets the parameters that the signal generator generates. It is not a DEW either.

In fact, the unit cannot be a DEW as it's merely a small box of components that generates a relatively weak RF signal. It has no radiative, directive or beaming capability whatsoever, being a signal *generator* - which, as a class of electronics device, have been around for years.

Jamming of electronics signals locally is a trivial consequence of any situation where one signal and another signal operating on the same frequency are detected in a location, with the locally stronger signal winning, all other things being equal.

If you are going to continue with such absurd and dishonest claims, it would serve you well to actually have some knowledge of the topic you are arguing about. That way, at least the lies and fabrications would have some entertainment value.
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
I have watched the first video too, and it is nothing like the OP describes.

One question: I'm not the most technically-minded of people, so could someone please clarify:
I thought antennas were meant to receive, not to transmit?
You can have active antennae that, through transmitting small outputs allow weak signals to be received through heterodyning (but I bow to others' potentially greater expertise in this regard)

In Australia, radar detectors became illegal and police used radar detector detectors to pick up the weak output that the in-car radar detectors were using. The radar detectors (not the detector detectors) were a classic example of an active antenna.
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
RE: It's 6:40, and I watched it *twice* from end to end. He does not make any jokes, and nothing about pointing things at people ...

Actually, I have been using public libraries, because, once again ... , my Internet access and telephone has been caught off. In a sense, my bad, sorry and thank you, I tried to show that other person apparently speaking out of his own emotions saying that DEWs need to be carry in trucks to just mess with one person, that DEW and their operating environment can be carried around as if they were laptops and you can clearly see that in that video.

Here is the other video I was talking about. Could you please, post the actual link this time as well?

Aaronia AG (one of the most advanced DEW manufacturers) CEO, Thorsten Chmielus:

// __ Aaronia Smart RF-Generator up to 6GHz (youtube kmVKyOt2oVc t=2m50s)

cracking jokes and compulsively laughing about definitely more than their DEWs tells us:

"[our programmable DEW you can also use ] ... as a jammer, but I didn't say that, of course, because I think it is not allowed anywhere, but we call it 'field strength generator' and then 'it sounds more familiar' and you can use it".

Anyone with a technical sense of reality would find preposterous the "discreet", "no-touch" aspect that the government claims as one of the "advantages" of DEWs. I wonder what would happen is people beam Thorsten and his family with the EM waves caused with the very DEWs made by his company as the government does to so many victims, even babies. He should no problem with it as long as they use 'field strength generator', right?

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May I suggest your knowledge of electronics is limited? This is basically just run-of-the mill application stuff. The technical implementation seems absolutely leading-edge, but functionally, there is nothing in it that hasn't existed for decades.

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