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23rd May 2017, 08:30 PM | #121 |
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This is an accurate observation. Also, many on the right try to quell the concerns of the left by saying such things as "even though our candidate says he wants to do (insert bad thing here), it's just pandering."
At the same time, they try to fuel flames of fear of the left by saying the left's candidates are trying to do things that the candidate never said they would. |
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23rd May 2017, 09:36 PM | #122 |
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24th May 2017, 03:11 AM | #123 |
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And what policies of his do they think would actually do that? And do they know how much smaller the work forces in modern manufacturing are than they were 70 years ago? I see empty parking lots at GM factories that have solar panels because they just don't need the work force they used to.
I think those are good goals, I just don't see how the polices of hiring lobbyists and corporate leaders is supposed to reduce corruption, and how his policies are supposed to increase employment.
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24th May 2017, 03:13 AM | #124 |
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24th May 2017, 04:26 AM | #130 |
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What can Trump do to lose his supporters? One way might be to push for an increase in Affirmative Action programs.
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24th May 2017, 09:01 AM | #132 |
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/24/news...s-budget-cuts/
These people wanted to cut entitlements, why should they be so shocked that they were the entitled people who needed to work harder to pull themselves out of poverty? Once their kids start to starve they will find it in them to go back to work. |
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28th May 2017, 04:13 PM | #133 |
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I thought that rural America was a land of wisdom, common sense, and distrust of urban areas, and yet so many rural Americans voted for the city slicker from hell.
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28th May 2017, 06:56 PM | #134 |
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He's been losing his 'strong support' faster than anything else, and gaining strong opposition to the point where that often exceeds all his approval combined.
The Republicans are still tribal, but everyone else is jumping ship. Everyone else doing that leaves him with 20%. So there might be some hope that this comes back to bite the Republicans hard, but don't count on it. |
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28th May 2017, 07:19 PM | #135 |
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Glad to see that the Republican health care plan was one of the things that hurt his support. Still wonder what Republican voters thought they would get in a health care plan when they voted R.
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28th May 2017, 07:23 PM | #136 |
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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Trump would lose some support if he went full-on white supremacist and started using the N word.
And if he supported an assault weapons ban. And opposed a federal abortion ban. And if he supported reducing GHG emissions to fight climate change. |
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9th November 2023, 05:04 PM | #139 |
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He didn't seem to lose any support when he proposed taking people's guns away and worrying about the legal process afterward.
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so if there was like a hulk hogan style leaked phone call of him using the n word casually in a way that makes you realize he uses it all the time in private you think he'd lose support?
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Ask Jim Jones.
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9th November 2023, 08:04 PM | #144 |
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Admit weakness.
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Say what was wrong about Ivana. He got it right, perfectly. No doubt about that, like Golden Bachelor guy, he seems like an okay guy. Can see him on The Apprentice.
A little bit of a weird face but I think Ivanka would do him. Not saying she would without a rose, I don't know but I will say Jared has been standoffish for about six years. |
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Farthest stretch....when Trump finally declares what an idiot he has been and was always living a lie and wants to apologise to all those he has wronged or insulted over the years and would like to dedicate his life and remaining wealth to charitable acts. That will surely loose him the support of his base.
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10th November 2023, 06:49 AM | #149 |
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e) It's like a dark mirror of identity politics. Instead of letting how you identify yourself guide your politics, you let your politics guide how you identify yourself. I'm sure someone smarter than me already coined a term for this. Cult of Personality comes close, I suppose.
They throw in so hard for Trump that he has become them. They don't know where he ends and they begin. He can't be a dumb racist *******. That would mean they are dumb racist ********. It's exactly how cults work. |
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10th November 2023, 06:55 AM | #151 |
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Trump could admit to being trans.
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10th November 2023, 07:01 AM | #152 |
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That means he knows how dangerous they are. He's so brave for coming out against them to protect our kids.
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10th November 2023, 07:35 AM | #153 |
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I think he'd have to be recorded in converstation with H. Clinton calling his supporters morons.
There is no policy issue that actually seems to matter to them. Maybe the border but probably not.\ Hard no one cares about the Trans thing, in 2016 he was the one Rep that said trans folks could use what ever bathroom they want in his buildings. |
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He could go full Millán Astray and yell "Down with intelligence! Long live death!" in Phalangist uniform from a balcony.
I'm making a bitter* little joke, of course. That's been his shtick for years and the tribesmen love it. * Sour, I mean. |
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As others have said, I think recordings of him saying things like the "N" word or saying he really supported Hillary would be dismissed as fakes. He would have do anything like this repeatedly on national television and especially places like Fox News to have an impact. His hard core supporters are so tribal and dug in that their position it would be difficult to convince them.
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10th November 2023, 09:21 AM | #156 |
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There's no one thing that will do it. Any controversy he drums up will just harden their resolve. He could walk into their homes and assault their children and they would thank him for the honor.
The only thing is when the fire finally dies down and they aren't caught up in the moment. Maybe, some of them will be able to step back and look at what they did to themselves and feel the shame. |
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I think they might move on but most will always have a reason why it made sense at the time even though in the end it was a bad decision. A lot will forget that they ever supported him. Lesser known cognitive bias, we tend to forget that we ever believed anything different from what we believe now. I expect this will be the case with a lot of Trumpists.
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Those recurring credit card charges will be there to remind them.
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The thing is his support isn't necessarily because people love T****y, they love the fact that he says what they think. They love that he's given them licence to be racist, to be misogynist, to be homophobic, to be cruel and selfish; in short he allows them to openly be the nazis that they are.
And that's America's dirty little secret, that the whole system of government, the education system, the legal system, in fact the whole of society has inculcated whole generations of people into a fascist system of being. And now somebody's come along and kicked open that hornet's nest for his personal gain. Once somebody half way competent as a showman comes along to wrest the baton from him, T****y will be thrown to the slagheap by his "adoring fans" quicker than you can say squirrell toupee. |
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There's gotta be something there though. A dozen wannabe "The Next Trumps" have come along and none of them stuck.
If he was just a racist misogynist homophobic blowhard he would have been replaced by now by someone he did it with more quiet and evil efficiency. There's got to be part of "The persona" in there that is connecting with people somehow. |
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