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8th October 2016, 07:53 PM | #41 |
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Oh, you meant a pass from the US, using 'you' as a stand in for my country.
Yes he does. Putin could not get away with invading neighbors or propping up a client state without the US setting it out. Hell, he couldn't get away with it without any four members of NATO setting it out. Depending on the members, any one. He's not as powerful as he plays, because Russia's military might isn't that great right now, and it's economic might is even further behind. |
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9th October 2016, 07:24 AM | #43 |
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This plays into the storyline of Trump as Putin's
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/161af...ssian-response
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9th October 2016, 11:27 AM | #46 |
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Precisely. That was your stated reason for why Trump would be under Putin's control: this idea (which you invented out of whole cloth) that he owed Putin lots of money. But since you're now claiming that Hillary can control Trump too, and debt is your stated reason for how Trump can be controlled, then it seems reasonable to wonder if you think Hillary is controlling Trump because of a debt he owes her. I mean, if you're going to invent a debt to Putin, why not invent a debt to Hillary too. Your theory didn't make sense from the beginning, I shouldn't expect it to start making sense now.
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Okee doke.
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9th October 2016, 06:19 PM | #51 |
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"He says he assisted Trump with marketing the sale of his condos in Russia."
Oh Noes! Trump sold condos to Russians! That must mean that he owes them lots of money because... no, that's not right... when you sell something to someone, you don't owe them anything after the transaction is complete, and while the transaction is in process, they owe you money, not the other way around. Maybe those condos were packed with uranium. There's got to be a scandal in here somewhere. |
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Okee doke. As long as you're convinced I guess we're good.
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People in Trump's inner circle (Paul Manafort for one) have unquestioned ties to Russian Oligarchy.
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"Almost pathological" is another way of saying "not actually pathological". Which forces us to conclude that Hillary Clinton owes Barack Obama a lot of money. Observe:
Hillary Clinton has people in her inner circle who are linked to Barack Obama. Why else would they be there, unless Clinton owes Obama money? Couple that with her not actually pathological need to praise Obama at every turn. In fact, I bet Hillary says nice things about Obama in public, more often than Trump does about Putin. |
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On the general subject; it has now been proven that the Podesta emails "leaked" by the WikiLeaks organization have at the very least been heavily edited in a malicious way.
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Nope. Nothing to see here.
Just rambling, incoherent statements from me, that's all. Nothing corroborated. |
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This is very interesting, since it's very much like the classical Mole Hunt method: see who is the only one with the fake top secret information, in this case Blumenthal instead of Eichenwald. At the very least it proves that Trump has someone actively monitoring Russian media for dirt on Clinton.
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Curious, you think that someone would have said that Trump was the beneficiary of the hacks when they hacked Colin Powell who said stuff like:
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Oh, believe me, I'm in no way defending Trump. He's just as bad as the Democrats, if not worse. I'm just saying Trump's more unpredictable. Putin couldn't know for certain that Trump would stay bought. As far as being played like a fiddle, it's entirely possible that Trump would be played like a fiddle just as much as President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry have been by Putin for the last eight years. Trump wasn't president during the invasion of Ukraine or Putin propping up Assad in Syria. Really, it's hard to see how relations with Russia could actually get worse without full blown war breaking out. But I'm not claiming that Trump would do any better. As far as all of Trump's financial dealings, again, Clinton's just as bad, if not worse. Yes, the big scandal everyone remembers from the Clinton years is Bill Clinton admitting to perjury, suborning perjury, and obstruction of justice in the Jones v. Clinton civil suit, but the majority of the Clinton scandals involving both Bill and Hillary were financial in nature. Everything from Hillary's cattle future bribes and the Whitewater scam before they were even in Washington, to millions of dollars in "donations" from Saudi Arabia for the Clinton Presidential Library and Massage Parlor to Hugh Rodham's Cash4Pardons scam when the Clinton's were getting ready to leave the White House, just about everything was about the dollars for them. Me personally, I think we're all ****** either way. |
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Not really, but nice repetition of a Faux News talking point.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-...-uranium-deal/ |
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http://secondnexus.com/politics-and-...3ee3ca348530db
I'll just leave that there. A server that communicates directly from Trump Tower to banks in Russia? Nah, still. Nothing to see here! |
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