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Old 28th May 2017, 02:41 PM   #1481
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
But I was, and so was Bob.


I am not denying any of this.
Still, each claim also needs to stand on its own merits.

In this case they seem to not only be standing on their own merits.

They are dancing around in the street. With each other.

How much will finally be enough?

If today's Repugnicans were to hold this White House to the same standards which they so enthusiastically apply to every Democrat that they can ever attach to the merest whiff of impropriety then Trump would already be gone.
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Old 28th May 2017, 02:48 PM   #1482
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
But I was, and so was Bob.


I am not denying any of this.
Still, each claim also needs to stand on its own merits.
One has merits and one doesn't which is why I said, "Unless one wants a meaningless discussion of course."
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Old 28th May 2017, 03:20 PM   #1483
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post

I have this feeling that much more will be revealed before the end of the year.
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Old 28th May 2017, 03:30 PM   #1484
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Originally Posted by skyeagle409 View Post
I have this feeling that much more will be revealed before the end of the year.

Don't be so pessimistic.

There's still three days left in this month alone.
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Old 28th May 2017, 10:24 PM   #1485
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Not sure whether this has made the rounds yet, but the NSA has "damning" SIGINT proving Trump/Russia collusion.

http://observer.com/2017/05/mike-rog...d-with-russia/

And a GOP operative has confessed to the collusion.

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/25/gop-...ton-democrats/

McConnell and Ryan now known to be in on it.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/05/...-fbi-notified/

http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/04/...ussia-details/

And of course the bombshell disclosure that McCarthy and Ryan have known for some time about Trump and others.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.dcdcf3507ffb

Meanwhile, independent investigator Mike Farb continues to document outright vote fixing in the 2016 election:

@mikefarb1 (Twitter)

http://www.unhackthevote.com

as does investigator Jonathan Simon

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2016/11...than-we-think/

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Old 28th May 2017, 11:12 PM   #1486
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I might be misinterpreting some things, but as far as I can tell the information indicating that Ryan and McConnell are getting dough from a Putin-linked Ukranian seems to come from them taking donations from Leonard Blavatnik who appears to be an American businessman of Ukranian extraction. As a wealthy American, Blavatnik has every god-given right to purchase all the American politicians he likes.
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Old 29th May 2017, 12:06 AM   #1487
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
If today's Repugnicans were to hold this White House to the same standards which they so enthusiastically apply to every Democrat that they can ever attach to the merest whiff of impropriety then Trump would already be gone.
A thousand times this.
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Old 29th May 2017, 01:08 AM   #1488
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
Not sure whether this has made the rounds yet, but the NSA has "damning" SIGINT proving Trump/Russia collusion.

http://observer.com/2017/05/mike-rog...d-with-russia/
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That's gotta hurt! The Observer and Observer On Line were owned and run by a certain Presidential Son-in-Law and Secretary of Everything.
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Old 29th May 2017, 05:20 AM   #1489
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
That's gotta hurt! The Observer and Observer On Line were owned and run by a certain Presidential Son-in-Law and Secretary of Everything.
I did not know that. They've been a pretty good source for deep-reading about some of the technical aspects of this mess.
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Old 29th May 2017, 05:36 AM   #1490
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I did not know that. They've been a pretty good source for deep-reading about some of the technical aspects of this mess.
Wait till the Russians start using all the financial info they stole in this hack, this is going to be good, but not for conservatives, they have been had big time.
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Old 29th May 2017, 05:39 AM   #1491
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Wait till the Russians start using all the financial info they stole in this hack, this is going to be good, but not for conservatives, they have been had big time.
Everyone forgets that the RNC was hit as well since nothing has been "leaked" yet from that hack. That will be embarrassing for them when it starts to come out.
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:04 AM   #1492
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
One has merits and one doesn't which is why I said, "Unless one wants a meaningless discussion of course."
This is room for everybody here.
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:05 AM   #1493
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Observer: NSA Chief orders "unprecedented" effort to document/preserve Trump evidence

On the heels of Admiral Rogers' statements to the NSA rank and file that the agency has "damning" SIGINT on Trump and associates, the NSA chief has ordered an all-out effort by the agency to not only find, but keep safe evidence of his collusion with Russia.

http://observer.com/2017/05/mike-rog...-russia-trump/

(posted about an hour ago)
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:10 AM   #1494
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Everyone forgets that the RNC was hit as well since nothing has been "leaked" yet from that hack. That will be embarrassing for them when it starts to come out.
Assange said outright at one point he had dirt on GOP but wouldn't release it.

Interesting side note: Guccifer2.0's twitter account has been silent since the 17th of January.
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:41 AM   #1495
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
Assange said outright at one point he had dirt on GOP but wouldn't release it.

Interesting side note: Guccifer2.0's twitter account has been silent since the 17th of January.
This has been going on since Ron Paul went on Alex Jones's Show when he was running for president.
It has just gotten more sophisticated, I wouldn't be Surprised if the Russians had years of dirty data on the GOP.

I know they tried and failed to install malicious ware on my computer, a key stroke recorder basically.

I also somewhere have an Email from Amy Smith, that has Alex Jones thanking her for his not her help.

Amy Smith was a troll on myspace, who had a link on a photo of a girl in a bikini that allowed
him to hack dumb men who clicked on the enlarge the photo link!
I turned the link back on him with a picture of building Seven, and got an Email address strait from the Kremlin.
I reported the Fake profile to myspace.
The reason I found the fraud is he used my Friends photo stolen from her Blue Grass music page.
The Conspiracy theories have always been about fraud and decietful crime.
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:47 AM   #1496
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
Assange said outright at one point he had dirt on GOP but wouldn't release it.

Only in your mind.
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:01 AM   #1497
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That's gotta hurt! The Observer and Observer On Line were owned and run by a certain Presidential Son-in-Law and Secretary of Everything.
Fake news!

Here another reason why this Russia collusion is so ridiculous. Obama did it too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...each-to-russia
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:05 AM   #1498
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Fake news!
What's that even mean to you?
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:07 AM   #1499
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Fake news!

Here another reason why this Russia collusion is so ridiculous. Obama did it too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...each-to-russia
(1) Obama was POTUS, Trump/Jared were not and (2) Obama didn't try to setup the back channel at a secure Russian facility in order to keep things secret from US officials.

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BREAKING: Strange White House Strobe Lights: Dance Party, End Times or Signal to Moscow?

Originally Posted by Sputnik
On Sunday evening, observers reported seeing strange red strobe lights flashing from a window inside the White House. The mystery light show quickly prompted Twitter users to present their theories about what was really going on. The most popular theories? Dance party, Saudi orb, a sign of end times, and of course, the Russians. [...]

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Old 29th May 2017, 07:31 AM   #1501
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Fake news!

Here another reason why this Russia collusion is so ridiculous. Obama did it too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...each-to-russia
You know the rest of us can read and understand English, right?

As is typical of you people, your link doesn't say what you think it does.
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:32 AM   #1502
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Fake news!

Here another reason why this Russia collusion is so ridiculous. Obama did it too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...each-to-russia
Obama didn't hack Republicans to get elected It looks Like Trump did.
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Were the lights north of the CITGO station. Investigative minds want to know.
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:39 AM   #1504
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You know the rest of us can read and understand English, right?
Logger's just doing what Drudge told him to.
Story leading Drudge this a.m. is nearly two and a half years old
That's noted liberal Allahpundit mocking them for doing it. Also,
This article of mine from 2014 has been tweeted hundreds of times today, all exactly the same way. #bots
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Were the lights north of the CITGO station. Investigative minds want to know.

There is no CITGO station anymore.
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There is no CITGO station anymore.
Oh, sure! And you don't find that suspicious?
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:54 AM   #1507
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(1) Obama was POTUS, Trump/Jared were not and (2) Obama didn't try to setup the back channel at a secure Russian facility in order to keep things secret from US officials.

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But it does raise the question of why Kushner didn't want the NSC and State department involved, again. If he had involved them like Obama did, there wouldn't be a problem.
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Only in your mind.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...p-s-mouth.html

Note he doesn't say he doesn't have the info, but that he won't publish it because (in his opinion) it's not as bad as some of Trump's more public doings.

Hey, Mr "Transparency"...dish the dirt and let US decide. Oh wait, Uncle Vlad wouldn't like that, would he?
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There is no CITGO station anymore.
That's what they want you to think.
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Current theory says it may be light therapy for Alzheimers and/or dementia. Either condition would fit Trump's observed behaviors during his trip.
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Nice to see CE's news consistently comes from Russia.
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The bestest idea of President Orange Sphincter was to scold or to alienate as quickly as possible both the intelligence community (CIA, FBI, NSA, ...) and mainstream media (out of Fox News) over this Kremlin meddling.

Making them de facto allies against him was a tremendously brilliant strategic move: I can't think of any other combo as efficient and lethal against his presidency.

After quoting myself, a perfect new example:
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America’s most important spy agency pulls out all the stops in its investigation of Russian interference in 2016
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Third is a kind of intercept which NSA terms “reflections,” meaning that none of the individuals on the DO’s list are involved, but one or more of them are being discussed by third parties. For instance, this could be a conversation between foreign officials about Team Trump and its mounting Russia problems. If the people discussing it are VIPs, their opinions may have intelligence value for policymakers in Washington—even if their conversation may shed no new investigative light on KremlinGate.
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An undertaking of this size and scope has never happened in NSA’s 65-year history. [...]
Observer


The Trump gang is soo toasted. And as Foolmewunz reminded us, Observer was once owned by Jared. Now it is rather the reverse.

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Quoting myself to present a perfect new example:

Observer


The Trump gang is soo toasted. And as Foolmewunz reminded us, Observer was once owned by Jared. Now it is rather the reverse.
I'd be careful with John Schindler. He spends a lot of time in the Mensch/Taylor end of the pool. Slate's Trumpcast has a good breakdown of it.
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I'd be careful with John Schindler. He spends a lot of time in the Mensch/Taylor end of the pool. Slate's Trumpcast has a good breakdown of it.
Seen that when the Slate paper went out (and BTW, Slate hasn't a stellar reputation either), and made some more checks. IMO he is used by the Mensch tribe but is much more reliable (not a hard task, admittedly).
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After quoting myself, a perfect new example:

Observer


The Trump gang is soo toasted. And as Foolmewunz reminded us, Observer was once owned by Jared. Now it is rather the reverse.
Funny, I opened a thread about that article almost 2 hours ago...81 hits and not one comment...
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Funny, I opened a thread about that article almost 2 hours ago...81 hits and not one comment...
Where is it?. Found it!

No wonder there are no comments (I only really checked this thread before posting): Why creating a separate thread about this article, as it is entirely appropriate and relevant in this thread?

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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...p-s-mouth.html

Note he doesn't say he doesn't have the info, but that he won't publish it because (in his opinion) it's not as bad as some of Trump's more public doings.

Hey, Mr "Transparency"...dish the dirt and let US decide. Oh wait, Uncle Vlad wouldn't like that, would he?

He says there that he has information that is less controversial than what is already out there. You pretend he said he is withholding something significant, which is total nonsense and goes against the stated principles of wikileaks. And if Assange is anything, he is consistent, which is why I knew that you made it up.
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The DNC emails were insignificant, too, so there's no excuse for not publishing Trump's/RNCs.
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It's the Cylons. Everyone knows they have a plan.
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It's the Cylons. Everyone knows they have a plan.
Sure beats the Trump administration.
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