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Old 13th April 2017, 11:01 AM   #1
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Trump's smallest/weirdest lies

In another threat someone mentioned a lie by Trump about how well he knew Bannon. Which got me thinking...

We're all familiar with Trump's bigger lies... "Drain the swamp", "I always opposed the Iraq war", etc. Those lies certainly make sense... they might entice voters to pick him in the election. But what are some of Trump's smaller, weirder lies. The ones where he didn't HAVE to lie, where it provided no political advantage, but he still lied anyways.

For example:

- Trump denies that he pretended to be publicist John Miller, even though they have an audio recording. It wasn't a big campaign issue. He could have used it as a way to humanize himself (along the lines of "See I have a sense of humor"). Yet he clings to the claim that it wasn't him.

http://time.com/4329561/donald-trump...91-phone-call/

- Trump's lie about the size of the crowd at his swearing-in. He already won the election, so there was little reason to lie. He could have blamed low turnout on the weather.

Any other small, baffling lies that Trump has made?
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Pretending Trump Steaks were still a going concern.
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On January 20th he said, ""I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States."

I guess that's not a small lie.
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Old 13th April 2017, 11:09 AM   #4
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That he doesn't have small hands.
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The second debate "I never tweeted that"
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politi...htmlstory.html
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Old 13th April 2017, 11:38 AM   #7
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About how tall his buildings are:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/n...ghts.html?_r=0
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Old 13th April 2017, 11:41 AM   #8
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Didn't he deny saying that global warming was a hoax by the Chinese?

I mean, he may not have meant it, but I thought his response was, "I never said that"
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Old 13th April 2017, 01:02 PM   #9
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I'd like to put an order in for some better topics here. What's next, Trumps worst haircuts?
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I'd like to put an order in for some better topics here. What's next, Trumps worst haircuts?
Maybe a thread on the campaign promises he's kept?
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Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
Maybe a thread on the campaign promises he's kept?
Well, he did drain the swamp. Of course, he ended up filling it right back up again with raw sewage.
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Old 13th April 2017, 01:15 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I'd like to put an order in for some better topics here. What's next, Trumps worst haircuts?
Its the day before a long weekend, when very little of significant interest is going on. What exactly is wrong with discussing a few of the little quirks of the political system.
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I'd like to put an order in for some better topics here. What's next, Trumps worst haircuts?
Trumps favorite feces meals.
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I'd like to put an order in for some better topics here. What's next, Trumps worst haircuts?
The one he has now.* Short thread.



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Old 13th April 2017, 02:27 PM   #15
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I'm pretty sure Trump only has the one astonishingly terrible haircut.
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Old 13th April 2017, 02:48 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
I'd like to put an order in for some better topics here. What's next, Trumps worst haircuts?
Is there a problem with your browser or membership? I only ask because at the top of the topic list when I click on a subforum there is a button that says "new thread." If you're not seeing it, I suggest asking the mod team to check it out.
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The response to a call for better topics is always "start your own thread".

There is always a cure if you don't see a thread about the topic you want to discuss.
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Originally Posted by portlandatheist View Post
About how tall his buildings are:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/n...ghts.html?_r=0
That made my day! I'm going to start advertising my mobile home as eleven stories, because why not?
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This one seems to be somewhere between little and big:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2017/...n-hacking.html

90 days for the "real story" about the hacking.

Still waiting.
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Old 14th April 2017, 09:41 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by portlandatheist View Post
About how tall his buildings are:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/02/n...ghts.html?_r=0
This is actually true, but it's weird/disturbing. While being interviewed on 9-11, he makes sure to point out that after the collapse of the WTC towers, his building was now the tallest:

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“Forty Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was, actually, before the World Trade Center, was the tallest,” Trump said. “And then when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second-tallest, and now it’s the tallest.”
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-building.html

Such a great instinct for the important issues.
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Old 14th April 2017, 06:38 PM   #21
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Since truth is the topic of this thread I'm going to stick this here. Just put away your irony meters first or they will be exploding!

Kellyanne Conway is asked about how she takes it personally, the things said about her. Her response at the 0:25 mark of the interview is " ... just because somebody says something doesn't make it true... "

If only she understood those words!

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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
That made my day! I'm going to start advertising my mobile home as eleven stories, because why not?
Your mobile home is the best mobile home. Believe me, everybody agrees. So there is no problem with your mobile home. Other people's mobile homes? Loser mobile homes. Fake news. Sad!
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That made my day! I'm going to start advertising my mobile home as eleven stories, because why not?
That's absolutely worth it. I'm drinking my morning coffee and watching out of the kitchen window of our summer place, and the view is so much better now that it's on the 17th floor.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Its the day before a long weekend, when very little of significant interest is going on. What exactly is wrong with discussing a few of the little quirks of the political system.

Lies told by the President are now demoted to little quirks?
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
That made my day! I'm going to start advertising my mobile home as eleven stories, because why not?
Quote:
"At some Trump buildings, it can be hard to detect any mathematical principle at work in the floor count."
Why not indeed?
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Trump's smallest/weirdest lies
Are you referring to the time when Trump's mouth was closed?
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What exactly is wrong with discussing a few of the little quirks of the political system.
Lies told by the President are now demoted to little quirks?
Its certainly not good that the U.S. has a compulsive liar in charge. But not all lies have equal significance.

An obvious lie (e.g. "Drain the swamp") means more than something like "I didn't pretend to be my own publicist", because one of them has a positive political effect, the other is just... weird.
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
Are you referring to the time when Trump's mouth was closed?
No, because he can lie in his tweets as well.

Unless he's not actually able to type without moving his lips.
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No, because he can lie in his tweets as well.

Unless he's not actually able to type without moving his lips.
He's not. He tells someone else what to type. His fingers are too short to use the keyboard.
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It is difficult for a sitting President to tell small lies since everything they say is news, however Trump has told plenty of weird lies.

The most recent weird lie that I know of involves the "armada" that he sent to the area of Korea when in fact this same battle group was already committed to the Indian Ocean to do some training exercises with the Australian navy instead.
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That's absolutely worth it. I'm drinking my morning coffee and watching out of the kitchen window of our summer place, and the view is so much better now that it's on the 17th floor.
That's nothing. I live in Denver - that's 528 floors up.

The view is astounding.
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It is difficult for a sitting President to tell small lies since everything they say is news, however Trump has told plenty of weird lies.

The most recent weird lie that I know of involves the "armada" that he sent to the area of Korea when in fact this same battle group was already committed to the Indian Ocean to do some training exercises with the Australian navy instead.
How is the president supposed to know what a fleet is doing? He has no way to find out, Fox and Friends backed him up after all, so his morning briefing was in agreement with him.
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The most recent weird lie that I know of involves the "armada" that he sent to the area of Korea when in fact this same battle group was already committed to the Indian Ocean to do some training exercises with the Australian navy instead.
I figure that wasn't so much a 'lie' as a 'screw up based on incompetence'.
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I figure that wasn't so much a 'lie' as a 'screw up based on incompetence'.
Trump's lies are fractal in nature - the level of truth in the big things is the same as in the small things.

That's one reason why it is so scary. Normal people don't lie about things that they know are easily disproved and which they consider unimportant. To do otherwise, is indicative of something wrong.

I do think that the partially true statement by Trump about his buildings being the Tallest in Manhattan fit in with this behaviour. I think that Snopes is being generous to Trump, given his other narcissistic behaviours.

http://www.snopes.com/trump-bragged-tallest-building/
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