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22nd April 2017, 04:48 PM | #1 |
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Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conferenc
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Is stupid a form of crazy?
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22nd April 2017, 05:28 PM | #3 |
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Trump will probably respond to this in a manner that proves him right.
But yeah, Trump at the very least has a severe personality disorder. |
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Before I'll accept hypothesis that Trump's brain is suffering from an illness, physical or mental, I want it established that he ever had a fully functional human brain to begin with. Can anyone provide actual evidence that he's ever had anything other than a pint of bargain-price oatmeal sloshing around in his skull? I'll accept X-rays, CAT scans, affidavits from Quaker Oats researchers, and so forth. The public has a right to know: was it ever cinnamon-apple flavored, or just plain? Regular, or extra-lumpy?
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Meetings like that aren't held between the two principals alone. If anything like that happened, it's astonishing that after the second or third repetition, one of Trump's advisors didn't step up and say "Sir, you'll recall that only the EU can negotiate those deals...". Unless his advisors are equally clueless.
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Advisors? Yes-men. None of them are going to interrupt the Deal Artist when he's negotiating. He doesn't care what the laws or regulations say, he'll just walk away from treaties and trade deals and go his own way. He's Donald J. Trump, Deal Artist. He doesn't like the refugee agreement the country made with Australia? He'll just huff and pout. Nato? Paris Accords? In his crappy little kleptocracy of Trump, Inc. he would be four points up in negotiating and someone could walk in and get him an advantageous agreement. ITRW, our partners just shrug and say "He's obviously a little cray-cray, we'll just wait them out. Someone will fire him or have him committed." And they don't have to wait long. He just sends in a lackie to reverse his position, affording himself plausible deniability with the deplorables.
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Tough situation for the staff. If it kept happening as many times as the article describes, I'd assume that he was either incapable of understanding or understood perfectly but didn't care. Either way I'd think most members of any head of state's staff would be reluctant to correct or challenge him in front of a foreign party that he's trying to negotiate with.
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My favorite diagnosis is syphilis that has now reached his brain.
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See Three Professors of Psychiatry call for "neuropsychiatric evaluation" for further answers to this thread.
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22nd April 2017, 10:04 PM | #17 |
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I'm not a shrink or anything but it makes sense to me. Someone might lie, the shrink might not ask the right questions, ect.
While it isn't difficult to looks at what Trump says and does and determine he has an obvious case of narcissistic personality disorder. The DSM-5 says individuals with NPD have most or all of the following symptoms:
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"The process by which banks create money is so simple that the mind is repelled. Where something so important is involved, a deeper mystery seems only decent." - Galbraith, 1975 |
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You need to stop beating this drum. There is no way that the "Trump is crazy" meme will end with a positive result.
To try and overturn an election result based on the opinions of some psychiatrists would cause serious problems. At the very least, we could see years of Supreme Court battles and at the worst, massive civil unrest - even civil war. Not to mention that this would set a precedent to drum out anybody who doesn't subscribe to the current political ideology. The GOP isn't about to let Trump cost them the next election. If he continues to make unpopular tweets/speeches/decisions then they will try to isolate him and, if necessary, impeach him. |
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I recall reading a long time ago, that the problem for diagnosis in a psychiatric interview, is that you need the cooperation of the other party to volunteer information relevant to the diagnosis, or you have to have a patient which is not able to properly control what he says and thus involuntary give the relevant diagnosis information. The problem is, highly functional sociopath can avoid both categories. You are much more likely to detect them by examining their real life , than with a personal interview.
How correct is that ? I have no idea, I have not checked any psychiatric stuff for a decade. But it makes sense to me. |
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You seem to be implying that WilliamSeger doesn't think that Trump is crazy and is only saying to try to get rid of him?
I will let WilliamSeger speak for himself, but personally I say that Trump is crazy (has at least one diagnosable mental disorder) because I think he is. I do not believe that calling Trump crazy is good way of getting rid of him. Though it is possible that his mental state will devolve to the point of incapacity and he will be removed. I think it is very unlikely that this will happen. More likely that he gets impeached because the Russian treason stuff is true. Or resigns before he can be removed. I doubt it will happen. Trump will most likely be the president until at least January 20th, 2021. |
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No.
Even if Trump is clinically insane and unable to hold the job, having him removed from office for that reason is a bad idea as I mentioned above. Worse, he can only be declared legally insane and you can be sure that opposing teams of psychologists will try to cancel each other out. |
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Not quite: It's a good reason to get rid of him, but I don't harbor any hope that there is any good way to get Republicans to do what's best for the country. The people who could either enforce the 25th Amendment (Pence and cabinet) or initiate an impeachment (House) seem to be as willing as you are to ignore both his mental illness and his corruption, as long as their reactionary, corporatist agenda is being pursued.
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The most plausible explanation IMO is that Trump did not even bother to listen at what Merkel was telling him because he is convinced to know everything about any topic. The problem however is that this man has no clue of most of the issues he has to deal with as President. For each of them, which are really complex issues, he has in mind a simple solution which does not work in practice.
Not sure that his staff will be able to make him understand that the world is not black and white, friend or foe, and so on… |
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