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Old 30th April 2017, 11:17 AM   #1
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Trump looking into changing libel laws

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Reince Priebus, the president's chief of staff, said during an interview on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday that the White House has discussed potential changes to laws that are intended to safeguard free speech.

"How it gets executed or whether that goes anywhere is a different story," Priebus said. But he added that he thinks "newspapers and news agencies need to be more responsible with how they report the news."

Changing the laws wouldn't be easy. Libel laws vary by state, and there's no federal libel law. And weakening press freedoms would likely take a constitutional amendment.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/30/medi...us-libel-laws/

In other words he wants to prevent the media from reporting things he doesn't like.

Good luck with that you fascist piece of ****.
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Old 30th April 2017, 11:47 AM   #2
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The party of small government, except when they're not.
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Trump's alt-reality where he believes he is King.

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Old 30th April 2017, 12:01 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
The party of small government, except when they're not.
This ^^^^ . Considering how any news he disagrees with is "fake news", this is a disturbing thought.
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Old 30th April 2017, 01:05 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by chrispy View Post
This ^^^^ . Considering how any news he disagrees with is "fake news", this is a disturbing thought.
What's disturbing is that he is telling his cult that it's fake news and they're believing it. This would be one of those times when it would be nice to know if he is actually delusional, but seriously: At what point does Presidential lying become a high crime or misdemeanor?
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Old 30th April 2017, 01:10 PM   #6
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We have a president who doesn't believe in Democracy.
Should be reason enough to impeach him.
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Old 30th April 2017, 01:25 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
We have a president who doesn't believe in Democracy.
Should be reason enough to impeach him.
Really. That alone should be more than enough.
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Old 30th April 2017, 01:29 PM   #8
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Did anyone tell him that libel is covered by state laws, and not federal?

Has anyone explained the first amendment to him?

Just kidding, we already know he has no respect for the constitution.
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Old 30th April 2017, 01:56 PM   #9
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I'll wager, just another Trump Reality TV gimmick.
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What would even a state changing libel laws even look like?
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
What would even a state changing libel laws even look like?
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Old 30th April 2017, 03:21 PM   #12
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Any change to libel laws that lets Trump get sued every time he lies would be a good change.
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Old 30th April 2017, 04:35 PM   #13
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Jesus Christ...

I feel like the country is the frog in the pot and the temperature is being increased ever so much every day. But I'm one of the few people that feels the heat.
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
What's disturbing is that he is telling his cult that it's fake news and they're believing it. This would be one of those times when it would be nice to know if he is actually delusional, but seriously: At what point does Presidential lying become a high crime or misdemeanor?
At the point where the people react against it I would suppose?
Its on the people, call him out on it.
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Old 30th April 2017, 04:49 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
What's disturbing is that he is telling his cult that it's fake news and they're believing it. This would be one of those times when it would be nice to know if he is actually delusional, but seriously: At what point does Presidential lying become a high crime or misdemeanor?
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Old 30th April 2017, 04:52 PM   #16
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Jesus Christ...

I feel like the country is the frog in the pot and the temperature is being increased ever so much every day. But I'm one of the few people that feels the heat.
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Old 30th April 2017, 06:18 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
Let's not revisit that*!



*At least you got the quote right.
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
Let's not revisit that*!



*At least you got the quote right.
I wouldn't worry, it's only consider a High Crime if it's said by a Democrat.
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
Jesus Christ...

I feel like the country is the frog in the pot and the temperature is being increased ever so much every day. But I'm one of the few people that feels the heat.

Worse still, some of the other frogs in the pot with you are cheering for the increase in heat, not realizing they're in the same pot.
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Rather than generic BS talk, does anyone anywhere have a bullet point on how people want to amend libel laws?
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Rather than generic BS talk, does anyone anywhere have a bullet point on how people want to amend libel laws?
Does anyone have a bullet point on how Trump is going to implement any of his policies?
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Does anyone have a bullet point on how Trump is going to implement any of his policies?
I didn't say Trump because I wasn't asking about Trump. I'm looking for any effort to change libel laws.
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Old 30th April 2017, 07:23 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I didn't say Trump because I wasn't asking about Trump. I'm looking for any effort to change libel laws.
I think Trump is the only one who cares about changing libel laws. He can't stand the fact that the media is allowed to run negative stories about him.
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Rather than generic BS talk, does anyone anywhere have a bullet point on how people want to amend libel laws?
I would love to know exactly what he is looking to change in relation to libel laws. The fact that he is looking to change them in relation to the press given his position is especially troubling.
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Could be it's just a Trump mind game, telling his cult that the press are their enemy and he's gonna go after them.

Or, he's mentally ill.

Hard to tell, ain't it.
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I would love to know exactly what he is looking to change in relation to libel laws. The fact that he is looking to change them in relation to the press given his position is especially troubling.
"I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”

It's as close to policy as we've been given.
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Not only is he a thin-skinned, anti-American, narcissist extraordinaire. The pathetic SOB constantly libels people like there's no tomorrow. Two scoops of irony, extra nuts.
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
"I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”

It's as close to policy as we've been given.
Has there ever been a case of a President suing news organizations for libel? Openly questioning or disagreeing is one thing, but expanding protections for a specific office which is probably the most important position to leave open to criticism is another.

[Edit] To expand libel laws specifically to give more power to the office of the President to attack those that disagree with him, or even more specifically to Trump is a dangerous precedent to set. If libel laws are inadequate all of a sudden, well, tough luck.

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I wouldn't worry, it's only consider a High Crime if it's said by a Democrat.
Er...okay.
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
"I'm going to open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”

It's as close to policy as we've been given.
Which, it turns out, is also approximately the same level of policy he's given on ANY issue he's spoken about. It's easily described as squat-all.
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I didn't say Trump because I wasn't asking about Trump. I'm looking for any effort to change libel laws.
Why?

It's nothing but bull ****. Why would any of us be taking Trump seriously on this?
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Could be it's just a Trump mind game, telling his cult that the press are their enemy and he's gonna go after them.

Or, he's mentally ill.

Hard to tell, ain't it.
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Not only is he a thin-skinned, anti-American, narcissist extraordinaire. The pathetic SOB constantly libels people like there's no tomorrow. Two scoops of irony, extra [shriveled] nuts.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Why?

It's nothing but bull ****. Why would any of us be taking Trump seriously on this?
Because my question doesn't take Trump seriously and isn't ultimately about Trump. I'm curious what is actually out there on politicians trying to change libel laws.

If this was the tax thread, and you pointed out scrapping the AMT was just garbage he said, I still might ask what other groups oppose the AMT.
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Not only is he a thin-skinned, anti-American, narcissist extraordinaire. The pathetic SOB constantly libels people like there's no tomorrow. Two scoops of irony, extra nuts.
You left out his constant mouth full of ******!!
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Because my question doesn't take Trump seriously and isn't ultimately about Trump. I'm curious what is actually out there on politicians trying to change libel laws....
Let me restate my answer. Nothing! D'uh!
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Because my question doesn't take Trump seriously and isn't ultimately about Trump. I'm curious what is actually out there on politicians trying to change libel laws.

If this was the tax thread, and you pointed out scrapping the AMT was just garbage he said, I still might ask what other groups oppose the AMT.
Other politicians aren't relevant in the discussion really. Trump is top-down encouraging an attempt to stifle the free press with the threat of expanding libel laws to cover what he feels are attacks on his person. I do not personally remember any President in recent memory encouraging this. Nor any nameable politician of note.

Whether others in the political arena have put forward any equivalent statements is besides the point, as the office of President is a specific position with specific power. Limiting criticism and reporting in regards to that specific office or in general within politics but manifested from that specific position I feel is quite different than that of other senior held members within government.
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Originally Posted by rdwight View Post
Whether others in the political arena have put forward any equivalent statements is besides the point, as the office of President is a specific position with specific power. Limiting criticism and reporting in regards to that specific office or in general within politics but manifested from that specific position I feel is quite different than that of other senior held members within government.
It's impossible to tell since there isn't any actual policy, but maybe he meant opening them up so that anyone could sue a newspaper if they thought a story was "purposely negative." That would be a ludicrous mess.
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It's impossible to tell since there isn't any actual policy, but maybe he meant opening them up so that anyone could sue a newspaper if they thought a story was "purposely negative." That would be a ludicrous mess.
"Purposely negative" is definitely a stretch but purposely irresponsible as put forward by Priebus is just as problematic. Especially in combination with Trump's comments on unnamed sources. Imagine the press being sued with their only defense being the naming and admittance of confidential sources to confirm their stories and reporting.

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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
Did anyone tell him that libel is covered by state laws, and not federal?

Has anyone explained the first amendment to him?

Just kidding, we already know he has no respect for the constitution.

I kinda wonder if he even has an awareness of it.

Beyond the level of, "Oh, yeah. That Constitution thingy. So what?", that is.

He hears people talking about it from time to time, but aside from that he's clueless.
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