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16th May 2017, 03:47 AM | #281 |
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Sure, organizations have a penchant to do that. But intelligence agencies or departments are a very peculiar kind of organization. For them, taking the blame might be an opportunity (e.g. to evict persons considered as not sufficiently competent).
Out of the Five Eyes, I wouldn't count on that. |
16th May 2017, 03:51 AM | #282 |
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16th May 2017, 04:07 AM | #283 |
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The Telegraph reported in January that U.S. spies 'warned Israel not to share intelligence with Trump' Is any ally going to be willing to share sensitive information with the U.S. with Trump in the loop now?
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16th May 2017, 04:11 AM | #284 |
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Someone is tweeting a defense on his twitter. Grammar is too good to be the Orange Menace. It's going the Nixon route, "It's not illegal when the President does it."
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16th May 2017, 04:12 AM | #285 |
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16th May 2017, 04:15 AM | #286 |
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Now. The one thing I don't get about people working for him is why they continue to sacrifice their reputations for him. It's a scorpion and frog situation and they don't remove the bodies of the frogs when you go in to interview for a job.
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16th May 2017, 04:16 AM | #287 |
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It is unfortunate to watch CNN allowing that complete idiot Allan Dershowitz make the claim that this is the worst act of a sitting US president. Ever.
When Dershowitz expands, rationality contracts. |
16th May 2017, 04:17 AM | #288 |
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16th May 2017, 04:24 AM | #289 |
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16th May 2017, 04:26 AM | #290 |
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16th May 2017, 04:27 AM | #291 |
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16th May 2017, 04:29 AM | #292 |
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16th May 2017, 04:31 AM | #293 |
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16th May 2017, 04:31 AM | #294 |
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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16th May 2017, 04:35 AM | #296 |
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16th May 2017, 04:39 AM | #298 |
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16th May 2017, 04:43 AM | #299 |
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16th May 2017, 04:56 AM | #300 |
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GOP won't do it because impeachment, followed by disclosure, will be far more damaging than what we have at the moment - allegations, many of which seem to have basis in fact but none of which have been legally proved - which can be written off as leftist whining and/or fake news.
edited to add... This is just business as usual for the Trump White House. Expect it to be bumped off the front pages by something else the GOP will be too chicken to bring him to book for in about 3 days time - allegations of business fraud, another claim of sexual assault, more allegations of being tapped by the Obama administration..... |
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16th May 2017, 05:12 AM | #302 |
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Relax, Washington doesn't move this fast. In all likelihood impeachment will have to wait until after the mid-term election. Trump is already a substantial drag on GOP numbers, so it can be expected DNC will take the House and reduce GOP majority in the Senate. If the Democrats can make this election about Trump they could even have a shot at majority in both houses (though this is unlikely because so few GOP senators are up for reelection, most are DNC). At that point impeachment becomes a very real possibility.
Trump would have to do several more ever more bizarre missteps before GOP majority would impeach him. This isn't impossible, but it is unlikely - because worse missteps than what he's already done are difficult, not because I trust him so. McHrozni |
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16th May 2017, 05:12 AM | #303 |
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16th May 2017, 05:18 AM | #306 |
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It's asking a lot for the Democrats to overcome the Gerrymandering in the House. I know that the GOP spread their advantage thinly but it would still require a considerable swing to the Democratic Party for them to overcome the estimated 7% advantage that Gerrymandering has conferred to the GOP.
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16th May 2017, 05:20 AM | #307 |
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16th May 2017, 05:21 AM | #308 |
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Another confirmation this isn't fake news. Because you know, it isn't fake news the media just made up if people really did leak it to the Washington Post. |
16th May 2017, 05:23 AM | #309 |
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Happy to keep you entertained.
Presumably you're referring to the occasions such as photographic evidence of crowd sizes, etc, where he absorbed the facts and changed his position. Or people cheering on rooftops. Millions of illegal voters? Nope. You'd be very hard pressed to prove your position that Trump is simply adjusting to the facts, rather than whatever he happens to be feeling, or who he wants to impress, at any given time. Also, since you mention it, may I ask you to explain what the 'deep-staters' here have done to earn the title. Or is this just a hit-and-run post? |
16th May 2017, 05:26 AM | #310 |
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16th May 2017, 05:32 AM | #312 |
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If President Obama had done this he would be praised as a great humanitarian by many here and as an excellent diplomat who was helping improve Russian US relations by sharing information that could prevent another airline terrorist disaster. Another group would have been condemning him for releasing state secrets.
If in fact sharing this intel puts lives at risk probably he was wrong to share it. But in that case the ones who really put lives at risk are the people who leaked the information and the paper for printing it. |
16th May 2017, 05:34 AM | #313 |
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16th May 2017, 05:36 AM | #314 |
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Until today, I hadn't heard of the "kettle defence" but Trump seems to be employing it.
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16th May 2017, 05:37 AM | #315 |
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16th May 2017, 05:39 AM | #316 |
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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16th May 2017, 05:42 AM | #317 |
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16th May 2017, 05:42 AM | #318 |
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The Washington Post didn't really give any details about what Trump told the Russians beyond that it was about ISIS plotting to blow up airliners with laptops. And it wasn't a huge secret that there was some kind of plot about that since the US is planning on banning people from carrying laptops on planes traveling to the US.
ETA: He told the Russians what city the plot was detected in. But the WaPo didn't report which one it was. |
16th May 2017, 05:43 AM | #319 |
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