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17th May 2017, 06:52 PM | #41 |
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17th May 2017, 07:08 PM | #52 |
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17th May 2017, 07:09 PM | #53 |
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17th May 2017, 07:13 PM | #54 |
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I figured it was a matter of time before Trump came head to head with a coalition of law-and-order types who eat, drink, and breathe notions of justice and who's sphincters tighten at every whiff of impropriety in a public office.
I felt like the end of Comey's letter had some of that shading to it:
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If they really got their ducks in a row, Comey has probably told Mueller exactly which FBI agents/units to fold into the Special Prosecutor's office and the investigation continues without having to start all over. |
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He's a Republican president. A lot of Republicans don't care about anything but that, they won't impeach one of their own even if he is an idiot and an embarrassment. It would take something immense for them to impeach him and I'm not sure taking bribes from Russia is big enough for them.
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17th May 2017, 07:19 PM | #56 |
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That's reason that Sessions would get rid of Mueller even sooner. Remember you have a president who is used to getting his way no matter what. And I think he has an AG in Sessions who will do whatever Trump wants. Trivialities like obstruction of justice and bribery are for the little people not Donald J Trump.
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17th May 2017, 07:20 PM | #57 |
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I will be very shocked if Sessions gets rid of Mueller.
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17th May 2017, 07:29 PM | #59 |
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17th May 2017, 07:42 PM | #61 |
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He WAS a lifelong Democrat until he discovered birtherism. And maybe you missed the last 18 months. Trump may have been rank and file Republicans choice but he was never the choice of the Republican leaders. If they can get rid of him in the next 4 to 6 months the hit next November may not be so bad.
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17th May 2017, 08:32 PM | #62 |
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I don't think Trump or Sessions are going to be able to quash this at this point. Hell, they couldn't quash it earlier when there was less evidence evident.
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In my mind, the two key figures who may be in the FBI's crosshairs are Flynn and Manafort.
Probably not so much Trump himself, except maybe insofar as that "private discussion" he had with Comey might be seen as improper. Weird that he would ask Pence and Sessions to leave the room so there were no other witnesses. |
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Pence probably can't believe his luck.
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Maybe it's really good for Trump. A man of sterling reputation will lead the investigation. When no evidence of wrongdoing is found, Trump can point to the investigation as proof of the value of his good name.
Of course, that's just one possibility for the future. Other possibilities don't end as well for Trump. |
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I don't see how Pence can get out of this unscathed: Flynn is going to throw him under the bus in return for some leniency.
There seems to be a lot of evidence that Pence knew full well that Flynn was under investigation when he hired him, but he lied about it - not really keeping up his part of the Oath of Office either. |
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If Pence becomes president because of this, he will probably be essentially a lame duck. He won't get much done, and it isn't even guaranteed he would be the nominee in 2020.
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Excellent choice. He will not be bullied or intimidated or rushed to conclude. Trump has reason to worry.
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Good political move, now all the Trump administration should say is "No comment, there is an active investigation so lets wait for the results of that".
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Flynn told Trump's transition team counsel Jan 4 he was under FBI investigation https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/u...iser.html?_r=0 |
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I wish I could find what podcast I heard it on but someone made a good case that the better comparison is the Iran-Contra affair. Nefarious actors take advantage of a President (Candidate) with diminished capacity to make a an illegal deal with a foreign power and the parties align along partisan lines over how it should or should not be investigated. This leaves us looking for to years of Dems attempting to investigate and Reps obstructing.
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