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View Poll Results: Is a Trump impeachment likely? |
Yes, expect to see it happen sometime in the near future. | 38 | 31.15% | |
No, Trump is safe(for now) | 46 | 37.70% | |
Don't know | 18 | 14.75% | |
On planet X Trump will dissolve Congress fire everyone and declare himself POTUS for life | 20 | 16.39% | |
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18th May 2017, 04:45 AM | #41 |
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18th May 2017, 05:22 AM | #43 |
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I have been really terrible at predicting Trump things, but I would say that Trump will be impeached sooner or later, unless Trump decides to cut out before such a thing were to happen (like his dead mentor Nixon did).
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As long as Republicans control Congress, it is unlikely.
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18th May 2017, 05:28 AM | #45 |
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18th May 2017, 06:08 AM | #46 |
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18th May 2017, 06:36 AM | #47 |
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I think an eventual one is likely, but not an immediate one. The problem is a Republican Congress who backed him for president, and the president's own supporters who may punish unfaithful and unloyal Republican Congresspeoples.
The Republicans have made their bed and they will spend a few more years worrying about what their man has done this time. It's a kind of purgatory that they, if not anyone else, fully deserve. |
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18th May 2017, 06:46 AM | #48 |
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The two you note were both pointless idiot talking points, not real malfeasance. Without Fox and related feeding republickers their daily load of **** sandwiches and poison pills neither would have gone anywhere.
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I don't believe there is really anything to impeach about. If all Comey's memo says is that Trump said "Flynn's a good guy, I hope you can let this go," then I don't think that's enough. If there is more direct evidence of obstruction in the memos, then maybe there's something there but it also brings up the idea that if Comey thought there was obstruction going on, he had a duty to report it when it was happening.
I've heard the theory that obstruction would be evidenced by Trump firing Comey, however, McCabe very clearly said that the investigation was not impeded by this. I guess maybe you could make the case that it was Trump's intention to impede the investigation, however Rosenstein, the same guy who called for Special Counsel, did write a memo to Trump recommending the removal of Comey. It isn't so clear cut. If he's going to be impeached, it will have to be for something we don't know about yet, like there's evidence he actually colluded with Russia, took bribes, etc. But that's going to take awhile to develop now that there is Special Counsel investigating. |
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18 USC Section 4
Obstruction being a felony, Comey would have had an obligation to report it to a judge, the Attorney General or some other authority. I guess it remains possible that he did indeed report it but in that case it seems odd that we wouldn't have heard about it already; I mean, there's your impeachable offense right there. |
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18th May 2017, 10:01 AM | #58 |
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He's a law enforcement officer. He knows there are ongoing investigations. If you think every crime committed is instantly brought to a judge's attention then you are wrong. It would be like not busting a small crime or small offense or maybe just waiting for more conclusive evidence.
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18th May 2017, 10:24 AM | #60 |
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I voted no simply because of the "for now" clause. With all the evidence so far, I think he can weather the storm for the time being. However, I don't think he'll make it through four years. He can't help but create more and more enemies and make more and more blunders. Who knows what these investigations will dig up? We'll have to wait to see what this investigation digs up and also wait to see who he pisses off and what other laws he will break in the future. He's a continuous accident waiting to happen. I think the good news is that most of his ridiculous agenda is in jeopardy but the bad news is that if we have some major crisis, we may be stuck with the worst possible captain at the helm.
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I'm not sure about this, but I think he IS an authority.
At some point, he would prepare a report if he had reason to believe a crime was being committed and pass it to the AG. People are talking about obstruction of justice as if there's an open and shut case here. Not only is the case not open and shut, it's barely open. Based on what we know publicly, Trump hasn't committed a crime. On the other hand, there's a lot we don't know, and depending on what else we may find out, there could be a crime involved. Obstruction of justice is one of those things, like perjury, that is often misunderstood. Not every lie told under oath is perjury. Not every failure to cooperate, or even interfere with, an investigation, is obstruction of justice. I don't think Trump is capable of following the law for four years, and he may have already violated it, but let's not jump the gun on charging him. There's time. |
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18th May 2017, 10:52 AM | #65 |
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At this point, I'd like to think so, but...
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Not gonna happen. Until Republican congresscritters start putting honesty ahead of partisanship, he's safe.
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18th May 2017, 11:11 AM | #67 |
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Zero chance of impeachment AND conviction. It's more likely Trump will stroke out or be assassinated.
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18th May 2017, 11:26 AM | #68 |
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Don't just single out the republicans. The first thing that any politician will think of before voting either way on an impeachment issue is, "Is my seat safe?"
Seriously though, this is just another straw to clutch at. Donald Trump is so despised in this forum that he could solve world poverty and implement every progressive agenda in the book and everybody here would still be saying "hang him!" |
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The reason Trump is so despised is because he would never address world poverty and any other progressive agenda item. When he actually does something along those lines then we can discuss it.
Plus everything that has happened to Trump since he was sworn in has been of his own doing. As the saying goes, "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake." |
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Just to focus on the last bit of your posting, I would say that you are quite wrong.
If Trump actually did do something positive, then he would generate positive support. However, Trump has yet to do anything positive. In fact, about the only thing that I can think of that he has done which is even remotely positive is where he provided a couple of hundred million dollars in tax breaks to the Carrier Company so that they would keep a couple hundred jobs here in America. I would say that the deal he made was more of bribe than a deal, and it was a bad bribe at that. |
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I noticed that no one else has posted this particular news item regarding a Trump impeachment, so I will do so now ...
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-impeac...h-comey-611015 TRUMP IMPEACHMENT ODDS: PRESIDENT NOT LIKELY TO SERVE FOUR YEARS, ACCORDING TO BOOKMAKERS ... British betting company Ladbrokes has cut the price of a Trump impeachment to odds-on at 4-5 from 11-10. Those new odds equate to a 55.6 percent probability that the Senate will remove the president from office. ... |
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Because it's easier than acknowledging that not only is it likely a criminal that needs to be impeached, but it has done nothing particularly useful for its own supporters, let alone the entire nation. Defending it is, at virtually every level, the most empty of gestures; the only thing truly accomplished is making "liberals/progressives" angry, which for some I guess is a primary goal. It's too bad that it's apparently necessary to flush the quality of our government down the toilet to fully accomplish such a laudable goal.
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Is it, though? I think the job of President is a WHOLE lot easier than it normally would be if you're someone like Trump that doesn't worry about being informed or thinking of all the nuance and potential ramifications of everything. I think he has lots of time for watching television, playing golf, and being president.
Well I can't really argue with that. And that's the one reason that I think they might impeach - I'm not betting on it, but it's possible that as the midterm approaches if this whirlwind of scandal continues they'll decide the only thing to do to protect themselves is to show that they're not with that guy. Still unlikely, but possible. I'd sure love to test that hypothesis. All we have to do is get Trump to do literally anything good, and we can see whether or not you're right. |
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Um, no, if Trump somehow magically became the most competent leader in world history, people would change their opinion of him.
But Trump is a very, very bad leader. He is extremely incompetent, ignorant, stupid, and dishonest. Plus he's a freaking Republican who's trying to **** over poor people so that rich people can get richer. Trump has earned every single bit of hate that he gets. Actually, he deserves way more. It being as high as it is (like 40%) is proof that there is something deeply wrong with America. |
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I single out the Republicans because they hold the majority in both houses and literally nothing can happen unless Republican leadership approves it.
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