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Old 13th November 2019, 11:09 AM   #1681
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Originally Posted by Cris View Post
This Ricardo is a Brazilian troll.
We are in total agreement there.
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Old 13th November 2019, 08:39 PM   #1682
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Originally Posted by Wolrab View Post
Cris seems to have glommed onto ricardo's threads and even adopted his style. Wasn't ricardo from Brazil?
Ricardo moved to the Skeptic Society forum in September 2019, where he calls himself Kundalino. He simply made all the same claims again. His last post was on the 4th November
https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtop...rt=160#p735850

Kundalino wrote "Is skepticism rationalistic or empirical? what is more important rationalism or empiricism?"

Whereas, our Cris posted a completely different statement "Is scientific skepticism the correct expression? empirical skepticism? rationalist skepticism?

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In essence, there was a recent free to air TV movie broadcast, in Brazil, on the spiritualist Kardec and this has inspired someone to post about spiritualism on skeptic forums.
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Old 13th November 2019, 11:25 PM   #1683
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Originally Posted by Thor 2 View Post
The schizophrenia you admit as being your affliction, is explanation enough for your experiences. Why complicate the issue by bring in all the woo?
Because that is the nature of the disease. It's hard to accept that the voices aren't real when your brain is telling you they are.
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Old 14th November 2019, 12:07 AM   #1684
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Originally Posted by Cris View Post
if spirits exist, will they be within the reach of the scientific method?
If spirits existed outside of empirically regulated knowledge (science) we could not know them. In order to know anything, it is necessary to grasp it through the senses, communicate it precisely and explain it. Otherwise, we would be unable to distinguish a failure of the senses from reality.

The only systematic study I know about spirits was carried out by a French biologist, Jean Rostand, at the beginning of the 20th century. All the cases turned out to be false. It is significant.
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Old 14th November 2019, 05:18 AM   #1685
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Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard View Post
Ricardo moved to the Skeptic Society forum in September 2019, where he calls himself Kundalino. He simply made all the same claims again. His last post was on the 4th November
https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtop...rt=160#p735850

Kundalino wrote "Is skepticism rationalistic or empirical? what is more important rationalism or empiricism?"

Whereas, our Cris posted a completely different statement "Is scientific skepticism the correct expression? empirical skepticism? rationalist skepticism?

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In essence, there was a recent free to air TV movie broadcast, in Brazil, on the spiritualist Kardec and this has inspired someone to post about spiritualism on skeptic forums.
that was a coincidence
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Old 14th November 2019, 05:19 AM   #1686
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Originally Posted by David Mo View Post
If spirits existed outside of empirically regulated knowledge (science) we could not know them. In order to know anything, it is necessary to grasp it through the senses, communicate it precisely and explain it. Otherwise, we would be unable to distinguish a failure of the senses from reality.

The only systematic study I know about spirits was carried out by a French biologist, Jean Rostand, at the beginning of the 20th century. All the cases turned out to be false. It is significant.
wrong.
it was Allan Kardec in the 19th century
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Old 14th November 2019, 05:20 AM   #1687
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjets View Post
Because that is the nature of the disease. It's hard to accept that the voices aren't real when your brain is telling you they are.
wrong
This is a pseudo-skeptical argument.
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Old 14th November 2019, 05:23 AM   #1688
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Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard View Post
Ricardo moved to the Skeptic Society forum in September 2019, where he calls himself Kundalino. He simply made all the same claims again. His last post was on the 4th November
https://www.skepticforum.com/viewtop...rt=160#p735850

Kundalino wrote "Is skepticism rationalistic or empirical? what is more important rationalism or empiricism?"

Whereas, our Cris posted a completely different statement "Is scientific skepticism the correct expression? empirical skepticism? rationalist skepticism?

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In essence, there was a recent free to air TV movie broadcast, in Brazil, on the spiritualist Kardec and this has inspired someone to post about spiritualism on skeptic forums.
Cris is a man.
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Old 14th November 2019, 07:05 AM   #1689
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Originally Posted by Cris View Post
wrong
This is a pseudo-skeptical argument.
No, it's a well-known symptom of the disease. Has all your argumentation devolved to irrelevant name-calling?
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Old 14th November 2019, 11:49 PM   #1690
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Originally Posted by Cris View Post
wrong.
it was Allan Kardec in the 19th century
Maybe I'm wrong and there is some research on spiritism before Jean Rostand's. But Kardec's books are definitely not. They are a speculative mixture of religion and pseudo-wisdom. You'll have to look elsewhere.
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Old 15th November 2019, 04:19 PM   #1691
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Originally Posted by Cris View Post
I don't know what a pseudoketic is
Someone who clandestinely pours maple syrup on his groats?
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Old 15th November 2019, 06:03 PM   #1692
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Someone who clandestinely pours maple syrup on his groats?
That would be a Canadian.
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Old 15th November 2019, 06:20 PM   #1693
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That would be a Canadian.
Eh. Did you say groats or goats?
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