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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:35 PM   #561
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
You would have to be Socialist to believe that Government regulations could achieve anything positive.
So police, fire, the FBI, freeways .... none of that is a positive government achievement?
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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:35 PM   #562
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I would pay good money to see video footage of President Warren laughing as the Secret Service tazes a weeping Trump and drags him out of the Oval Office. Especially if he does that thing with the door frame that cats do when you try to get them into a carrier.
Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
You can put the cat into a bag and then kind of 'pour' it into the carrier.

This would also work well with Trump, except you could just toss the bag into a dumpster. Or the Potomac. Whatever.
Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Couldn't you toss the bag into a dumpster, then toss the dumpster into the Potomac? (You had 2 good options... hate to miss one of them.)

Make sure you set it on fire first. (Although the number of times we've heard the Trump administration called a 'Dumpster fire', its probably not necessary.)
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Just tell him he's going to Mar-a-Lago for a weekend trip, and then lock the doors once he's out.
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I'd pay more.
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I would be happy if people were outside the White House with really loud ... whatever the modern equivalent of a boombox is ... playing "Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye" over and over, every day that he's in the White House.
All hilarious, and I would happily join in if it happened.

But in reality, Trump loves the power and prestige of the position of POTUS. But he loathes the White House itself and probably Washington as a city. He very likely can't wait to get out of the place, and won't need to be pushed at all. And honestly, it seems like he never moved in in the first place. Just a token set of lifted shoes, some super-long jokey red ties, and a pallet of Treseme hair spray in a wardrobe somewhere.

He would much prefer to be in Trump Tower in NYC, Mar-a-Lago in Florida, or on one of his golf courses. He actually would miss Air Force One much more - it's his "private jet" currently, and he spends a lot of time in it these days. So I suggest offering him one last ride...then putting him in a sack, the sack in a dumpster, and dropping that from 30,000 feet into the Potomac.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:37 PM   #563
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Half of a hemisphere is a semihemisphere.

And to be annoyingly pedantic (per the ISF tradition) the Western Hemisphere isn't just the two American continents, it's also several European and African countries.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:38 PM   #564
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Originally Posted by plague311 View Post
Ok, I didn't know that. Please pardon my apparent ignorance.



...ok.



Yup, I wrote it. I used this map as a reference. It appears to include the top of South America. So...whatever.
Yes, the Western Hemisphere is everything to the left of the red line in the center, including all the rest of South America as well.

Everything right of the red line is Eastern.

Everything above the yellow line is Northern, everything below is Southern.

They overlap, so every locations would be in at least two hemispheres (East or West and North or South)

ETA: And the answer of my post you responded to wasn't directed at you; I just assumed you made a mistake and was trying to point it out. But the other post that I responded to apparently decided that reading is not fundamental and decided to post pointless snark instead of understand the point, which is why for the most part I've given up ever attempting to post anything serious to this forum anymore.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:42 PM   #565
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Half of a hemisphere is a semihemisphere.

And to be annoyingly pedantic (per the ISF tradition) the Western Hemisphere isn't just the two American continents, it's also several European and African countries.
Yeah, true. I skipped that trying not to be overly pedantic.

I should have known better.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:47 PM   #566
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Sweet! Geography lesson learned.

Thank God we can move on from that. Point being, it's not unique to the US, or even this hemisphere, semisphere, sphere sphere, quadrosphere, or ninjasphere. Just to get away from all spheres, 15-20% of all countries have birthright citizenship. There, easier that way.

On a different note, it appears that citizens are still anti-impeachment for the most part:

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According to the Monmouth poll released Thursday, 35% of Americans support impeaching Mr. Trump and removing him from office, while 59% of Americans oppose that course of action. Only 41% of Americans want the House Judiciary Committee to open an impeachment inquiry against the president.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:54 PM   #567
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
So police, fire, the FBI, freeways .... none of that is a positive government achievement?
1 - I'm pretty sure that you post you replied to was being sarcastic.
2 - Most of us don't think of agencies and infrastructure as being regulations.

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Old 22nd August 2019, 01:56 PM   #568
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

The Economy is doing really well. The Federal Reserve can easily make it Record Setting! The question is being asked, why are we paying much more in interest than Germany and certain other countries? Be early (for a change), not late. Let America win big, rather than just win!
Anything to blame someone else.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 02:09 PM   #569
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Originally Posted by Arcade22 View Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...212_story.html

Good Americans should support him because he's supporting Israel. All good Jews, and Americans for that matter, only want to do everything for Israel no matter the costs. Also, American Jews are Jews first and foremost and that's why they owe loyalty towards Israel above all else.

That's pretty much what you get from Trumps line of reasoning.
New name for 45. "Double Down Don".
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Yes, birthright citizenship is not unique to the western hemisphere, but it IS much more common in the Western hemisphere than the Eastern, which was Joe's point.

See the map at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 02:25 PM   #571
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Originally Posted by abaddon View Post
Nobody heard of the northern and southern hemispheres and why they might matter? Who knew?
As an Australian can I just say we are pretty big on the southern hemisphere concept. Particularly when you can claim that something is the " biggest in the southern hemisphere", since there isn't much competition for those things down here
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Old 22nd August 2019, 02:27 PM   #572
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Originally Posted by Hellbound View Post
Yes, birthright citizenship is not unique to the western hemisphere, but it IS much more common in the Western hemisphere than the Eastern, which was Joe's point.

See the map at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli.
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I mean it's pretty much literally only a thing in this hemisphere and everywhere else, including all of those glorious wonderful European utopias we're supposed to be emulating, it's not a thing.
Then perhaps we should be discussing what the words "literally only a thing in this hemisphere" means, eh?

ETA: Because looking at the map you had, and the map of the hemispheres it doesn't "literally" look like it's limited to either, whether you use E\W or N\S.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 02:44 PM   #573
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
As an Australian can I just say we are pretty big on the southern hemisphere concept. Particularly when you can claim that something is the " biggest in the southern hemisphere", since there isn't much competition for those things down here
You have the biggest in the southern hemisphere? :
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Early on, I quipped Trump would love to trade Puerto Rico for Greenland.

Ummm...

NBC News reports: “President Donald Trump has been joking recently about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland.”

What makes jokes funny is the unspoken truth behind the joke. Kinda like “The Chosen One” joke.
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Originally Posted by plague311 View Post
Then perhaps we should be discussing what the words "literally only a thing in this hemisphere" means, eh?

ETA: Because looking at the map you had, and the map of the hemispheres it doesn't "literally" look like it's limited to either, whether you use E\W or N\S.


We could, if you really have an addiction to pedantry.

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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
New name for 45. "Double Down Don".
”Double down” - among my current list of gratingly hep lingo, used by seemingly everyone and their Speak & Spell.

Others on the hit parade:
  • Walk it back
  • Artisanal
  • Crafted
  • Hand-crafted
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  • Wheelhouse
  • Simply
  • In his/her/their lane
Gad.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Greenland is not quite an independent county though;it's seems to be a lot like Puerto Rico or the other US Territories. Self Governeing in many way, but not indepdendent.
But Denmark is not selling, the whole idea is ridiculous, and that a GOP group is actually fundraising based upon "Help Trump to Grow America" with T shirts showing Greenland as part of the US shows the GOP is beyond redemption.
It's more than a territory. It is not only self governing but has a constitutional provision for self determination. Denmark might be able to sign off on their claim to it and their role in its administration, but they couldn't just sell it. I would suggest it is somewhere between a territory and a commonwealth nation, but closer to the latter.
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Nikki Haley tweeted that she is denying the rumor that she will be replacing Pence as VP candidate for 2020. No one has heard of this rumor so she is probably spreading it.
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
”Double down” - among my current list of gratingly hep lingo, used by seemingly everyone and their Speak & Spell.

Others on the hit parade:
  • Walk it back
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Anything to blame someone else.
His feud with the Federal Reserve is probably him trying to imitate Andrew Jackson's feud with the Bank Of The United States...which lead to a severe recession.
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
Nikki Haley tweeted that she is denying the rumor that she will be replacing Pence as VP candidate for 2020. No one has heard of this rumor so she is probably spreading it.
I'd heard that rumor. Perhaps you don't have good gossip sources!
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
His feud with the Federal Reserve is probably him trying to imitate Andrew Jackson's feud with the Bank Of The United States...which lead to a severe recession.
And assigning blame for it in advance.
Gotta wonder which of his "advisors" has his ear on this. It's not like he comes up with this stuff by himself.
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Is a thing.
On my list of pet peeves for recent expressions are a set which, while they aptly describe things in a sort of way, manage subtly to shift the responsibility for them from the person doing them.

Top on the list is "optics." Once upon a time one did something stupid, tone-deaf, or which looked bad. It was possible that one was not actually bad, but the responsibility for doing something that looked bad was on the person doing it. Now when something looks bad, we are told it's "optics," implying that the fault of the appearance belongs to the viewer. Distortion or color aberration is a quality of the lens, not the subject. If something looks bad now, it's because of how we look at it.

Next, when a person says something that is obscure, complex, confused, it is said to "have a lot of moving parts." A pile of rubble used to be just that. A pile. Now, it's a watch, and it's our responsibility to disassemble it to find the sense in it.

Once, when a person lied or covered a statement with needless obscurity and obufuscation, we could say he was talking rubbish. Now, though, we need to "unwrap" it or "unpack" it. Once again, it somehow becomes our job to pick apart the turd to see if there's a bit of corn in it.
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I've never understood "optics" to be blaming the viewer. In the context of political blunders, I take it to mean the person who blundered is out of touch or failed to consider how it would look. Which, being a politician, is kind of important. So it's saying this person failed at a key aspect of their job.

I've only heard "unpack" when someone is about to more thoroughly explain something or is being invited to do so.

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And assigning blame for it in advance.

Gotta wonder which of his "advisors" has his ear on this. It's not like he comes up with this stuff by himself.
Maybe some more advisors will quit soon.
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I'd heard that rumor. Perhaps you don't have good gossip sources!
And I've heard of it too now.
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
1 - I'm pretty sure that you post you replied to was being sarcastic.
2 - Most of us don't think of agencies and infrastructure as being regulations.
So, like, polluting common waterways is not like murder or some serious crime? How about dumping dioxin?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Beach,_Missouri
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And I've heard of it too now.
I heard that TM started the rumour.
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Nikki Haley tweeted that she is denying the rumor that she will be replacing Pence as VP candidate for 2020. No one has heard of this rumor so she is probably spreading it.

Denying a non-existent rumour is a prime way of getting a rumour that you want started, started!
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Originally Posted by Tero View Post
So, like, polluting common waterways is not like murder or some serious crime? How about dumping dioxin?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Beach,_Missouri
Not only that, but the Trump Administration's gutting of environmental protection standard means that what happened to Times Beach could now happen again. Trump has appointed a coal industry lobbyist to run the EPA.... he really has put a fox in charge of protecting the hen house.
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So, like, polluting common waterways is not like murder or some serious crime? How about dumping dioxin?



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Beach,_Missouri


So would times beach be the FBI or the freeways in terms of government regulation?
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Old 22nd August 2019, 07:08 PM   #592
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Denying a non-existent rumour is a prime way of getting a rumour that you want started, started!
Trump's modis operandi.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 07:22 PM   #593
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There is no truth to the rumor that I am still sleeping with Morgan Fairchild.


ETA
Even though many people are saying that.
The best people.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 07:35 PM   #594
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
There is no truth to the rumor that I am still sleeping with Morgan Fairchild.


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Even though many people are saying that.
The best people.
But not Morgan.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 09:19 PM   #595
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
I've never understood "optics" to be blaming the viewer. In the context of political blunders, I take it to mean the person who blundered is out of touch or failed to consider how it would look. Which, being a politician, is kind of important. So it's saying this person failed at a key aspect of their job.

I've only heard "unpack" when someone is about to more thoroughly explain something or is being invited to do so.
I agree that on the surface this seems to be the case, but I still think that referring to optics shifts the responsibility for understanding to the viewer in a subtle way.

And again, I hear commentators often speak of unpacking or unwrapping a statement, and though it has a certain validity, I think there is a subtle shift of responsibility inherent in the terms, because it is essentially non-judgmental as to the confusing nature of a statement. It becomes the routine job of the commentator to make it intelligible.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 09:59 PM   #596
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that if he loses in 2020, whether its close run or a landslide, he WILL refuse to leave office.
Lol, I see you still haven't learned to moderate the hysteria of your predictions. Would be interesting to go back to the Trump threads of 2016 and see what else you had ZERO doubt about.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 10:54 PM   #597
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Lol, I see you still haven't learned to moderate the hysteria of your predictions. Would be interesting to go back to the Trump threads of 2016 and see what else you had ZERO doubt about.
You can learn a lot about a public figure in the course of three years.
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Old 23rd August 2019, 12:05 AM   #598
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Originally Posted by Doghouse Reilly View Post
Lol, I see you still haven't learned to moderate the hysteria of your predictions. Would be interesting to go back to the Trump threads of 2016 and see what else you had ZERO doubt about.
We have learned that however low the bar is set for reliability, loyalty, intelligence, civility, statesmanship, or even just plain good manners, Trump can crawl under it. He certainly has exceeded all expectations in that respect.
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Old 23rd August 2019, 12:09 AM   #599
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We have learned that however low the bar is set for reliability, loyalty, intelligence, civility, statesmanship, or even just plain good manners, Trump can crawl under it. He certainly has exceeded all expectations in that respect.
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I agree that on the surface this seems to be the case, but I still think that referring to optics shifts the responsibility for understanding to the viewer in a subtle way.
Or, at the very least, it excuses stupidity by suggesting that the stupidity should just have been presented better.
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