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Old 26th August 2017, 03:30 PM   #1201
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
There's freedom of speech, and then there's professional conduct.
I'd oppose a law that tried to keep them from speaking out at all, but not being allowed to bully elderly people in the nursing home where they live (and can't leave), while they're getting paid to care for said elderly people?

I don't think that's a clear-cut case of 'just free speech'.
No, but the jail time is what makes this proposal an awful idea. Saying rude stuff you're not supposed to at work should get you fired, maybe have your license stripped in some jobs but not jail time.
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:25 PM   #1202
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Originally Posted by Civet View Post
No, but the jail time is what makes this proposal an awful idea. Saying rude stuff you're not supposed to at work should get you fired, maybe have your license stripped in some jobs but not jail time.

The blog post mentions jail but the actual linked text of the law does not. In fact it mentions that these offenses are misdemeanors which, AFAIK, usually don't include jail time.
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Existing law, the California Residential Care Facilities for the Elderly Act, provides for the licensure and regulation of residential care facilities for the elderly by the State Department of Social Services. Under existing law, a person who violates the act, or who willfully or repeatedly violates any rule or regulation adopted under the act, is guilty of a misdemeanor. Existing law also provides for civil penalties for a violation of the act.
So from what I've read, if there is potential jail time it must be spelled out in the existing law and this new law simply extends that law to cover the unique circumstances of LGBT patients. I'd bet that in the existing law jail would only apply after repeated convictions for abuse.
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Old 26th August 2017, 06:52 PM   #1203
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After much searching I found the original law which this new amendment extends to LGBT patients and the unique considerations around their welfare. The original law was enacted in 1985 so anyone upset about this law having potential jail time should have been speaking out about it for over 30 years.
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Old 28th August 2017, 06:49 AM   #1204
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
I assume that one's already passed. But what's the big deal? I mean, it's only Freedom of Speech, and nursing home attendants certainly do not deserve it.
At least they can get away with physical abuse easily. Even if the more verbal forms of harassment are not allowed.

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Old 28th August 2017, 07:39 AM   #1205
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Oh no, what's next, they can't call their black patients 'boy' anymore?
I call white people "boy" all the time.
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Old 28th August 2017, 09:44 AM   #1206
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
I call white people "boy" all the time.
Does that have the same racist history?
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Old 28th August 2017, 09:48 AM   #1207
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Originally Posted by paulhutch View Post
In fact it mentions that these offenses are misdemeanors which, AFAIK, usually don't include jail time.
Misdemeanors often include up to one year of jail time.
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Old 28th August 2017, 11:09 AM   #1208
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
I call white people "boy" all the time.
And calling your child a monkey has a very different connotation than calling a black man a monkey.
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
Misdemeanors often include up to one year of jail time.
That is their definition after all. Or rather they are all criminal acts that do not include more than one year of prison time.
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