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Old 8th September 2014, 07:11 AM   #2001
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Originally Posted by marplots View Post
I have noticed my opinions have become 87% more correct in this new venue.
I noticed no change. But then, mine were 100% correct in the first place.
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Old 8th September 2014, 08:12 AM   #2002
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Forum's damn fast, though.
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Old 8th September 2014, 08:47 AM   #2003
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Forum's damn fast, though.
Yes, I would like to protest this improvement. Previously at work, I would grow frustrated with the poor response time and go and do actual work. Now, I don't have that excuse. If I get fired, it's the new regime's fault.
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Old 8th September 2014, 08:50 AM   #2004
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Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
Yes, I would like to protest this improvement. Previously at work, I would grow frustrated with the poor response time and go and do actual work. Now, I don't have that excuse. If I get fired, it's the new regime's fault.

Or Obama's.

Lisa. icerat, Obama.

That's enough scapegoats for everyone!
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Old 8th September 2014, 09:15 AM   #2005
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Or Obama's.

Lisa. icerat, Obama.

That's enough scapegoats for everyone!


You forgot to put Warren G. Harding on the list.
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Mr Jackson knows where the blame lies!
Skeptics generally doubt the existence of the Boogeyman.
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So - the plan was to update the forum software off this old and broken version of vBulletin, right? Do we have a proposed timeframe for that happening yet?
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
So - the plan was to update the forum software off this old and broken version of vBulletin, right? Do we have a proposed timeframe for that happening yet?
That's going to be a more complex process because of the customizations on this site. We'll start looking at soon and then decide whether to try to do it "in-house" or pay someone with experience with the same type of transfer.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 03:01 PM   #2010
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If you use someone else, this naturally brings up the question of who pays.

I'd be willing to contribute a small amount* on a one-time basis for the services of a migration specialist.




*Whatever that means, relative to whatever it means. If you know what I mean.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 03:30 PM   #2011
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
So - the plan was to update the forum software off this old and broken version of vBulletin, right? Do we have a proposed timeframe for that happening yet?
What's broken about it ?
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Old 22nd October 2014, 04:07 PM   #2012
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
What's broken about it ?
Post editing and preview doesnt work properly for a start

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=282602

Also, this vBulletin looks like about v3.7 at a guess. v3 is nearly 10 years old, and if this is 3.7 then its about 7 years old

They are up about 5.13 now
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Old 22nd October 2014, 04:57 PM   #2013
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I know it's obsolete. That wasn't my question.

I haven't had problems with editing and previews, except with very specific functions.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 06:27 PM   #2014
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Post editing and preview doesnt work properly for a start

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=282602

Also, this vBulletin looks like about v3.7 at a guess. v3 is nearly 10 years old, and if this is 3.7 then its about 7 years old

They are up about 5.13 now

Are the newer versions significantly better? I'm no expert, but I've heard otherwise, so it's an honest question.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 06:42 PM   #2015
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Are the newer versions significantly better? I'm no expert, but I've heard otherwise, so it's an honest question.
In another thread, either Darat or Tricky (can't remember which) opined that "version 4 was a dog's breakfast. Version 5 was the breakfast after it had been through the dog."
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Old 22nd October 2014, 08:03 PM   #2016
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
I know it's obsolete. That wasn't my question.

I haven't had problems with editing and previews, except with very specific functions.
I preview, and the post comes up in preview but the editing window is blank.

If I click submit, I get "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 2 characters."

If I put in the 2 characters, those are the only characters that get posted

If I try to recover from the blank edit window by going "back" I get all my text back, BUT the right end of every line has a <br> (which I presume is an HTML tag for "line-break"

This happens in Firefox, Chrome, Safari and Opera (I don't have IE so don't know about that). It happens on the two computers I have tried it on at work (both XP Pro SP3), and both at home (one is XP pro SP3 the other is a laptop running Windows 7).



If for no other reason, it worth going to a new version of vBulletin for this



The Auto-Save feature is a backup feature to save the text in your reply or edit in case of a crash or other extraordinary circumstance and you are thrown out. The auto-save automatically backs up your work every 30 seconds. At that point, you should see an "Auto-saved" message flash in the right-hand corner of your reply pane. If after the initial 30 second backup you are inadvertently thrown out, you can go back to the thread, click Reply to Thread and you should see a "Restore Auto-Saved content" message in the lower left-hand corner of either the Quick Reply Pane or the Advanced Pane. Click on that message and your text is restored.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 10:00 PM   #2017
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I preview, and the post comes up in preview but the editing window is blank.

If I click submit, I get "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 2 characters."

If I put in the 2 characters, those are the only characters that get posted

If I try to recover from the blank edit window by going "back" I get all my text back, BUT the right end of every line has a <br> (which I presume is an HTML tag for "line-break"

This happens in Firefox, Chrome, Safari and Opera (I don't have IE so don't know about that). It happens on the two computers I have tried it on at work (both XP Pro SP3), and both at home (one is XP pro SP3 the other is a laptop running Windows 7).



If for no other reason, it worth going to a new version of vBulletin for this

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../Auto-save.png

The Auto-Save feature is a backup feature to save the text in your reply or edit in case of a crash or other extraordinary circumstance and you are thrown out. The auto-save automatically backs up your work every 30 seconds. At that point, you should see an "Auto-saved" message flash in the right-hand corner of your reply pane. If after the initial 30 second backup you are inadvertently thrown out, you can go back to the thread, click Reply to Thread and you should see a "Restore Auto-Saved content" message in the lower left-hand corner of either the Quick Reply Pane or the Advanced Pane. Click on that message and your text is restored.
I'm sure there is forum software that can introduce more problems than you've listed. How many are you aiming for?
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A "like" function (as being discussed in the "a dying forum" thread) is one software improvement needed.

Also, we need the function that when you "quote this post in a pm", the software adds a link to the post in the pm.

Being able to link/hotlink a pic of a tweet is the big thing in forums now.

Maybe even "like/share on Facebook"?

Just things I thought of first.

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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
I preview, and the post comes up in preview but the editing window is blank.

If I click submit, I get "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 2 characters."

If I put in the 2 characters, those are the only characters that get posted

If I try to recover from the blank edit window by going "back" I get all my text back, BUT the right end of every line has a <br> (which I presume is an HTML tag for "line-break"

This happens in Firefox, Chrome, Safari and Opera (I don't have IE so don't know about that). It happens on the two computers I have tried it on at work (both XP Pro SP3), and both at home (one is XP pro SP3 the other is a laptop running Windows 7).



If for no other reason, it worth going to a new version of vBulletin for this

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../Auto-save.png

The Auto-Save feature is a backup feature to save the text in your reply or edit in case of a crash or other extraordinary circumstance and you are thrown out. The auto-save automatically backs up your work every 30 seconds. At that point, you should see an "Auto-saved" message flash in the right-hand corner of your reply pane. If after the initial 30 second backup you are inadvertently thrown out, you can go back to the thread, click Reply to Thread and you should see a "Restore Auto-Saved content" message in the lower left-hand corner of either the Quick Reply Pane or the Advanced Pane. Click on that message and your text is restored.
This seems like it should be posted here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=282593

The powers that be seems to be paying more attention to that thread these days. They fixed the problem I was having.

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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
A "like" function (as being discussed in the "a dying forum" thread) is one software improvement needed.

Also, we need the function that when you "quote this post in a pm", the software adds a link to the post in the pm.

Being able to link/hotlink a pic of a tweet is the big thing in forums now.

Maybe even "like/share on Facebook"?

Just things I thought of first.

If we can't beat social media, we can join it.
I like all of these ideas, except for the first one. I agree with others who've argued that it will lead to voting on the truth. However, like/sharing on Facebook would be a great idea, but as a one way street. In other words, the like/share would appear on Facebook, but there'd be no notice of it here. It would still attract more people to the forum, though. Good thinking.

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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
I'm sure there is forum software that can introduce more problems than you've listed. How many are you aiming for?
Huh?
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
This happens in Firefox, Chrome, Safari and Opera (I don't have IE so don't know about that).
Well I have IE, and it works fine on my end.

Ha ! Suck on that, Firefox fanboys !!!
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Huh?
Don't fix what ain't broken.
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
Don't fix what ain't broken.
Which is fine, and a philosophy I agree with, except that it is broken

Eventually vBulletin 3 will go the same way as vBulletin 2; no longer supported.


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Well I have IE, and it works fine on my end.

Ha ! Suck on that, Firefox fanboys !!!
Oh it works alright until...... it doesn't!


I have reinstalled IE on the XP computer at work. I'll use that to access the forum for the next few weeks to see what happens.
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