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4th September 2014, 12:07 AM | #41 |
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* Orphia Nay scrolls to the bottom and clicks "OK".
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4th September 2014, 12:19 AM | #42 |
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4th September 2014, 12:42 AM | #43 |
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Looks good to me.
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4th September 2014, 12:46 AM | #44 |
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Benford's law of controversy - Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available |
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4th September 2014, 01:20 AM | #45 |
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4th September 2014, 01:24 AM | #46 |
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The Reptilians are taking over! You foolish sheeple!
ETA: The Reptilians don't seem any worse than the previous overlords, so I'll just go ahead and agree |
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4th September 2014, 01:28 AM | #47 |
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4th September 2014, 01:36 AM | #48 |
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You make boots out of Reptilians. The Greys make better furniture, they're comfy.
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4th September 2014, 02:29 AM | #49 |
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4th September 2014, 02:43 AM | #50 |
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Anybody got a pen I could borrow?
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4th September 2014, 02:59 AM | #51 |
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I'm in too, but I think that some of the legal minds here have made some very good suggestions that I hope will find their way to the final document.
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4th September 2014, 04:52 AM | #52 |
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4th September 2014, 05:46 AM | #53 |
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"Your use of the Forum is entirely at your own risk;"
My hands are guided by THE LORD GOD JESUS. Its His risk, not mine. "By posting, uploading, or sharing your content on the Forum, you grant TribeTech a perpetual, non-exclusive, sub-licensable, royalty-free, transferable, worldwide license to access, use, and display your content, which includes without limitation the right for TribeTech " Meh, if they want to own the crap I write... Too bad for them. Well, manure has its uses. "When you register for the Forum, you are required to supply a small amount of personal information: an active email address, your first and last name, your state (if in the U.S.) and country of residence." How dare you? Its sensitive information. Wait, excuse me. BRB, gotta check that Facebook publication. Ah, well, its OK. But TEH LORD GOD JESUS soon will be back and sort it all out. |
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4th September 2014, 06:06 AM | #54 |
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Everything looks good to me.
Suggestion/Question: What about language protecting the forum from lawsuits by disgruntled members and non-members (something that the JREF has had to deal with before)? |
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4th September 2014, 06:08 AM | #55 |
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4th September 2014, 06:26 AM | #56 |
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4th September 2014, 06:49 AM | #57 |
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4th September 2014, 07:04 AM | #58 |
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No issues with this agreement.
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4th September 2014, 07:23 AM | #59 |
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232 Ezekiel 23:20 |
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4th September 2014, 09:08 AM | #60 |
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4th September 2014, 09:51 AM | #61 |
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We could put up a sign:
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4th September 2014, 10:05 AM | #62 |
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4th September 2014, 10:22 AM | #63 |
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4th September 2014, 11:13 AM | #64 |
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It needs:
All your base are belong to us. |
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I've always believed that cluelessness evolved as an adaptation to allow the truly appalling to live with themselves. - G. B. Trudeau A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. - Kay, Men in Black. Enjoy every sandwich. - Warren Zevon |
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4th September 2014, 11:35 AM | #65 |
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I'm in.
Will there be an option to hear manaical laughter as you fill in the registration form? |
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4th September 2014, 06:14 PM | #66 |
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4th September 2014, 06:37 PM | #67 |
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5th September 2014, 04:54 AM | #68 |
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This is a chestnut:
Copyright on content generated prior to TribeTech’s hosting of the Forum remains with the member, and such content has been republished on the Forum by the James Randi Educational Foundation pursuant to its license. All TribeTech content, the selection, compilation, arrangement and presentation of all materials, and the overall design of the Forum are copyrighted by TribeTech, and are protected by U.S. and international laws. Use of our content without our express prior written permission is strictly prohibited. No, sorry, the JREF's license to publish does not and cannot transfer along with the database, no matter how often equivocation and other logical fallacies are applied. The JREF will not be publishing the posts because ownership and management of the forum is being transferred to Tribe Tech, and they do not hold license to the posts until and unless a user agrees to that license by posting on the new forum. I suppose some rather tedious arguments could be made and probably have been made, however, the JREF does not own the content. License to publish applies only to the JREF is the publisher, not an heir or assign such as Tribe Tech, and if JREF insists and agrees that yes, indeed, The JREF is publishing forum content on Tribe Tech's forum, then lo and behold, the JREF will also have to assume responsibility for legal issues arising out of that publishing--boilerplate disavowal of responsibility for posts notwithstanding. You can't have it both ways without sharing the burden. Either the JREF is separating the forum from its ownership and management or it is not. WHATever...as long as personal, private information is removed it really doesn't matter much to anybody outside of a small circle of friends. |
5th September 2014, 02:38 PM | #69 |
I would save the receptionist.
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5th September 2014, 10:03 PM | #70 |
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I've only just quickly read this stuff, so my understanding might be off, but isn't it that the data are being moved, then you get a chance to agree to new forum's t&c?
So what happens to transferred data if you don't agree to the new forum's t&c? Does a Jref forum member's content get deleted from the new owner's forum? If not, how will the new forum differentiate between content to which it has rights, and content to which it has none? |
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5th September 2014, 10:32 PM | #71 |
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6th September 2014, 12:48 AM | #72 |
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The JREF has decided to publish the content it has right to publish on the new forum. The cut off date will be anything before the change of ownership of the forum. Think of it this way the JREF has a licence to publish the content of members' posts in a book, the JREF does not have its own printing press so the book is printed and distributed by a book publisher. The book publisher does not own the copyright and the JREF is not seeking to reassign its licence.
The original copyright part of the registration agreement was created after receiving actual legal advice from a USA lawyer qualified in the USA to give such advice. I'm quite certain the JREF is legally in the clear to publish the content it does own a licence to on the new forum. |
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6th September 2014, 01:22 AM | #73 |
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Any feedback if the suggested wording changes are going in or not?
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6th September 2014, 03:08 AM | #74 |
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We'll wait a few more days and then review the feedback.
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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6th September 2014, 04:00 AM | #75 |
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Leaving aside whether a mere licensee can assign anything, the new forum owner is seeking rights greater than those that Jref has. If a member whose content is transferred does NOT agree to the new terms and conditions, the new forum owner may not deal with that content in the same way that it may deal with content of those who do agree. How is it going to differentiate between old content and new content? It'll have acquired everything, but may have rights to deal with only some of it.
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6th September 2014, 05:47 AM | #76 |
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6th September 2014, 06:07 AM | #77 |
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Pet Lover http://forums.randi.org/group.php?groupid=45 "When particles of evil and iniquity swarm together, they make a Lolly.": Legend |
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6th September 2014, 06:12 AM | #78 |
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.Bertrand Russell Zooterkin is correct Darat Nerd! Hokulele Join the JREF Folders ! Team 13232 Ezekiel 23:20 |
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6th September 2014, 06:21 AM | #79 |
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Pet Lover http://forums.randi.org/group.php?groupid=45 "When particles of evil and iniquity swarm together, they make a Lolly.": Legend |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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