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At last count, The Interview will be opening in 262 theaters tomorrow. That's 261 more than the opening theaters for The Principle. Just sayin'.
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Latest update: Currently showing at only one of the three theaters listed in the film's website, the other two don't list it any more. No idea if it's opened anywhere else. Total take as of a week ago was $51,207. That won't pay the bills. Weekend box office dropped from $24,145 the weekend of January 23-25 to $7120 Jan 30-Feb 1. That's not surprising, the true believers will go to the opening and nobody much else is interested.
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I checked the movie's Facebook and Twitter feeds:
The Principle on Facebook The Principle Movie (@PrincipleMovie) | Twitter Jan 30:
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Feb 4-5: Some places where the movie may be shown next: Madison WI Houston, Katy TX Indianapolis, Greenfield IN Harrisburg, PA They state that they are about 300 - 350 tickets away from showing the movie. Finally, hasn't anyone here bothered to try to see it? |
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Tee hee. Seems like those filmmakers' careers are not worth financing.
I concede that I myself might try to see it if I didn't live in such an out-of-the-way place without a lot of money for traveling. |
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The Principle on Facebook -- it will come out on DVD and Blu-Ray in October or November
Here's where it's been shown in movie theaters: Chicago, IL -- 2014 Oct 14 - Oct 30, Nov 7 - Nov 13 Burbank, CA, Orange, CA, Spokane, WA -- 2015 Jan 23 - Feb 5 Madison WI, Harrisburg PA, San Diego CA -- 2015 Mar 13 - 26 Omaha NE, Cincinnati OH, New Castle PA -- 2015 Apr 24 - 30 Albuquerque NM -- 2015 May 17 Here's its total box-office take, up to April 30: $89,543 (The Principle (2014) - Box Office Mojo) |
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I'm not sure if the original comment is quite correct, since the rotating earth is an accelerating frame of reference.
It's more an interesting mathematical curiosity than anything else. You can pick an immobile earth as your frame of reference; in fact, we do this all the time when asking directions to the nearest Starbucks, or even how to get to the bathroom on a moving aircraft. But when you extend that frame of reference outwards you start getting very weird math. If you can do this with the accelerated frame of the rotating earth, the speed of light increases as you get further away from earth, and so on. Obviously, nobody does that "for reals," but it's an interesting math exercise. |
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>Reason being is that you guys appear to have absolutely no field experience in listening for invisible people in the forest. I do. -historian |
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Judging from the Videos | The Principle, it's because of cosmological-scale structures like the "Axis of Evil" showing that the Earth has a cosmically special position. (Planck shows almost perfect cosmos – plus axis of evil | New Scientist, What Is Evil About The Axis Of Evil? - "The Principle" Movie)
That's grasping at straws, because at best, it shows that it is the Local Group that has a cosmically special position. Our Galaxy doesn't have a special position in the Local Group, the Sun doesn't have a special position in our Galaxy, and the Earth does not have a special position in our Solar System. The movie's makers have a hashtag #areyousignificant about being cosmically significant. Bertrand Russell once wrote The Theologian's Nightmare, about discovering how cosmically insignificant our planet is. That seems to describe the viewpoint of "The Principle"'s makers very well. |
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You are trying to apply logic to a loon. To quote Adam Savage: "Now THERE'S your problem".
Sungenis is also a raving holocaust denier and anti-semite. His own church has ordered him to tone that down or stop using "Catholic" on his hate sites. |
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The true irony here is that they are over reaching looking for that.
I say that because from my understanding (so take that with a grain of salt) on the mater is that the universe is spherical. One of the special properties of a sphere, as a geometric shape, is that any and all points on the sphere are at the center. Including the earth. Why must believers make things more complicated than they strictly need to, right? |
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Where's that from?
In the Friedmann-Lemaître-Robertson-Walker cosmology, the Universe's dimensions split up into 3 space and 1 time dimension. The 3 space dimensions have "maximal symmetry", as it's called. There are three possibilities: plane-like, circle-like, and hyperboloid-like (zero, constant positive, and constant negative curvature). From the most recent measurements, the 3-space part of the Universe's space-time has a curvature of less than 1% the overall space-time curvature, using the Universe's present overall density as a measure (Lambda-CDM modelWP). |
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Just for ***** and giggles I decided to see if anyone out there had any legitimate arguments for a geocentric universe. Unsurprisingly the most arguments for it stems from the proposed authority of the bible, the rest had arguments that went along the lines of "If we assume geocenticricy is true then the conclusion that we live in a heliocentric universe is wrong and so are the observations that lead to that conclusion."
Yeah, I'm going to just leave it alone that we don't live in a heliocentric universe and conclude that you're a moron now, thanks. |
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Interesting; from the ICR article:
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I love how they try to use Einstein to back their argument.
Originally Posted by turingtest
But yeah. More Geocentric eccentricity:
Originally Posted by Alantean Conspiracy
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I haven't read the article (yet); but, if this guy really thinks anyone has ever said anything about the atmosphere being "magically velcroed to the earth," I'd invite him to look up "Coriolis force"- go stand in the middle of a hurricane (as I have, several times, including Katrina), and tell me about it. A line from Blue Oyster Cult's "Astronomy" occurs to me- "you'll want to know where winds come from."
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Along with a lot of "I don't believe it, therefore something else"; as in his answer to "why do the sun and the moon appear to be the same size?"
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That kind of brings up what is, to me, an interesting point- how woo-slingers, CTists, and religiously-addled people must depend on "philosophy" to back their conclusions rather than, you know, just empirically testing for them. (There's a poster on this forum, who shall remain here nameless, who insists on this approach) They begin with an idea, but then, instead of trying by experiment to falsify it, they decide that simply arguing will suffice to "prove" it. It's all sitting around the BS table and debating for them; reality is determined by who makes the best points (or can outlast the other). So you end up with things like messages from the dead in radio commercials, "the Mafia killed JFK!" and the Shroud Of Turin being, for them, just as likely as anything evidence can show; you find yourself spinning plots, reality be damned. |
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The apparent similarity in size is, of course, temporary as the moon is moving away from the earth. They will only appear roughly the same size for a small percentage of the earth's existence. So the only even slightly remarkable fact is that our species happened to evolve during that brief window.
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It's all very Father Ted.
"These are small… but the ones out there are far away." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS12p0Zqlt0 |
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ScreeningNOW -- "The Principle", now available for purchase on DVD or Blu-Ray. It will be available for rent on December 8, 2015, presumably by streaming online.
So you can now see what it's about, though you must be willing to make the great sacrifice of supporting its creators' careers. |
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The Earth is not the center of the Universe but, it's very close, because I AM the center of the Universe, obviously!
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At the risk of necroing this thread, I can report that The Principle is still going, along with a documentary on the topic of "Thoughtcrime: The Conspiracy to Stop The Principle"
http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/buythemovie/ You may now resume your excursion into the world of sanity. ![]() |
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An unpleasantly large number of people are uneducated, many of them by their own choice, on the realities of the Universe. The majority of them base this ignorance and refusal to learn on their religion so I must logically blame it on their religion!!!!!! And the Universe knowledge is not the only problem religion causes or assists.
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Or even glorifies.
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Not really but damn if the whole thing don't make me cringe. I mean you don't have to go far before things would be traveling faster than light just to match what we observe, and even then we'd be able to tell if that was happening.
It just makes me wonder just how do these mouth breathing morons think these celestial bodies stay in orbit of Earth. Haven't they ever hear of centrifugal force? What's keeping all of these celestial bodies from flying off faster than the speed of light? Critical failure of geocentrism at every scale! Fractal failure at its finest! |
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