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Old 28th July 2011, 05:40 AM   #1
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Project Managers for 9/11 Truth

OK, we've got Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. All very impressive.

However, if they really want to impress me, they need to create Project Managers for 9/11 Truth.

Project Managers are people who know how to take diverse elements and put them together into a coherent whole. Something truthers, almost by definition, cannot do.

So how about it, truthers? Can one of you set up a website for people who claim to be project managers to assemble and throw their support behind The Movement?

I can't wait to see what insights they have to share.
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Old 28th July 2011, 07:10 AM   #2
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I understand such a list was set up some ten years ago.

It currently contains zero members.
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Old 28th July 2011, 08:00 AM   #3
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// Im not sure id be impressed with such a list.
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Old 28th July 2011, 09:34 AM   #4
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// Im not sure id be impressed with such a list.
The key I think is that most truthers would have no idea what a "Project Whatchamajigger" is, and they're the ones with the disposible income that truther leaders crave.
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Old 28th July 2011, 11:01 AM   #5
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Dammit, now I have a mental image of a fund-raising Gantt chart stuck in my head.
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Old 28th July 2011, 05:54 PM   #6
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What we need is Al-Qaeda for twoof.
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Old 28th July 2011, 08:18 PM   #7
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I'd be impressed by Demolition Contractors for 9/11 Truth, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 29th July 2011, 04:56 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Greedo View Post
What we need is Al-Qaeda for twoof.


It's been well-established that Al-Qaeda are bedunkers!


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Old 29th July 2011, 06:58 AM   #9
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I'm sure project managers can become mentaly ill also. Just give it time.
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Old 29th July 2011, 07:52 AM   #10
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There will never be "Project Managers for 9/11 Truth" for the same reason there will never be a Society of Ambidextrous Andorrans.

The overall population is so small, and the proposed sub-population so specialized, that the number of people who would meet both criteria is too small to meet the definition of "group." Even if 100% of those eligible joined.

9-11 Truth ought to be doing the opposite. They should take a big-tent approach, to make the most out of the numbers they have. They could learn something from the Tea Party movement. They are many TP factions. They do nothing but naysay and can't agree on what should be done, but they can find enough common ground to put together large enough numbers that people pay attention to them.

Followers of this forum know that the 9-11 Truth movement can never achieve that, because they can't agree on the most basic aspects of the issue, and they can't get along with each other. So their approach will be to keep making up Respected Profession for 9-11 Truth organizations that exist only in HTML form, because there aren't 1000 people in the world who are both a 9-11 Truther and belong to any specific profession.
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Old 29th July 2011, 08:06 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by aggle-rithm View Post
OK, we've got Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. All very impressive.

However, if they really want to impress me, they need to create Project Managers for 9/11 Truth.

Project Managers are people who know how to take diverse elements and put them together into a coherent whole. Something truthers, almost by definition, cannot do.
True, can't have a massive global conspiracy without someone to organize!
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Old 29th July 2011, 11:02 AM   #12
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There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as: the prior STOCK TRADING on the airlines the week before 911.

We are suppose to believe that Osama bin Laden, from his cave, made norad stand down our air force? Remember these planes were flying around for an hour and forty minutes. You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens. When I saw how the buildings fell the day it happened, It was not POSSIBLE. Then building 7, a 47 story building, hit by nothing, A PERFECT DEMOLITION*. Then we have PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, where the government says they need a new Pearl Harbor event. We have the Northwoods document talking about using planes in devious ways.

The Collapse of the WTC Not Caused by Jet Fuel
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Old 29th July 2011, 11:04 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post

The Collapse of the WTC Not Caused by Jet Fuel
At least you got this right.
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as: the prior STOCK TRADING on the airlines the week before 911.

We are suppose to believe that Osama bin Laden, from his cave, made norad stand down our air force? Remember these planes were flying around for an hour and forty minutes. You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens. When I saw how the buildings fell the day it happened, It was not POSSIBLE. Then building 7, a 47 story building, hit by nothing, A PERFECT DEMOLITION*. Then we have PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, where the government says they need a new Pearl Harbor event. We have the Northwoods document talking about using planes in devious ways.

The Collapse of the WTC Not Caused by Jet Fuel

You forgot to mention "freefall speed".

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Old 29th July 2011, 11:13 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens.

I know this one............................You land at Regan National.

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Old 29th July 2011, 11:51 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as: the prior STOCK TRADING on the airlines the week before 911.
Don't tell Martha Stewart about stock trading. The Stock Trading 911 truth claim is one of the dumbest claims there is. Ask Martha Stewart, all you have to do is lie and you are in jail when it comes to trading stocks, there is a trail too. Not a good idea to mix a plot of killing people with stock trading. This would be lie number 1, hope you did not fall for this nonsensical claim.

Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
We are suppose to believe that Osama bin Laden, from his cave, made norad stand down our air force? Remember these planes were flying around for an hour and forty minutes. You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens. When I saw how the buildings fell the day it happened, It was not POSSIBLE. Then building 7, a 47 story building, hit by nothing, A PERFECT DEMOLITION*. Then we have PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, where the government says they need a new Pearl Harbor event. We have the Northwoods document talking about using planes in devious ways.
No stand down, that is a lie. Did you fall for that one? Makes 2 lies. (I was on active duty on 911, no stand-down, that is a moronic claim)

Planes that loose radio contact or were reported hijacked do not get intercepted in minutes before 911. Don't fall for lie 3.

There is an airport right next to the Pentagon, planes fly next to the Pentagon all day long, the runway is 1300 feet away from the Pentagon. Lie number 4.

WTC 7 was on fire, fire not fought, it fell. Don't fall for lie 5.

Using PNAC as a claim is instant failure. Lie number 6. This is dumb.

Using NORTHWOODS is super instant extra credit failure. The government did not do NORTHWOODS, must of been made up by someone like a 911 truther, not very much brains. Did you fall for this idiotic claim? Make 7 lies. This is dumber.

Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
The Collapse of the WTC Not Caused by Jet Fuel
The jet fuel started fires on multiple floors, the jet fuel was not needed to destroy the buildings, the office contents burning were many times the heat energy of the jet fuel. You could research this one and use science to prove 911 truth is wrong. Why have you not done that?


911 truth has no single integrated rational story. You collected some of the dumbest claims made by 911 truth and they do not fit a rational plot. It is easy to see they were made up claims due to lack of knowledge.


It is funny you talk about flying next to the Pentagon.
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... You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens. ....
Originally Posted by DGM View Post
I know this one............................You land at Regan National.

Please research some of this and try to make rational claims instead of repeating failed lies from 911 truth. Don' you have anything new 10 years later?

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Old 29th July 2011, 03:34 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, blah blah prior STOCK TRADING blah blah cavemen blah blah norad stand down blah blah It was not POSSIBLE blah blah PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY blah blah new Pearl Harbor blah blah Northwoods blah blah Jet Fuel blah blah
Didn't somebody make Truther Bingo cards awhile back?
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Old 29th July 2011, 04:21 PM   #18
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I want to know why they waited over 400 DAYS before investigating it (this is the bit you forgot to include in your brain spasm).

OT: A google search brings up 142 hits (now prob 143) on "waited over 400 days". Only a few were relevant, and none of the relevant ones made sense. Send this search to somebody whose time you want to waste...
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as:

Why DID Ginger take so many clothes on a three hour tour?
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as: the prior STOCK TRADING on the airlines the week before 911.
Done.
http://nsarchive.files.wordpress.com...sec-report.pdf


Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
We are suppose to believe that Osama bin Laden, from his cave,
So, before 9/11, he lived in a cave? Citation needed.

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made norad stand down our air force?
NORAD didn't stand down.


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Remember these planes were flying around for an hour and forty minutes. You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens.
Happens every single day. One of the nation's busiest airports lies not 1 mile from the Pentagon.




Nuff said.

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When I saw how the buildings fell the day it happened, It was not POSSIBLE.
Bazant, an engineer with MUCH better qualifications than yourself, who is actually qualified to make such statements, disagrees with you.

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Then building 7, a 47 story building, hit by nothing, A PERFECT DEMOLITION*.
Well, except for the 3 other buildings damaged.........

Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
Then we have PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, where the government says they need a new Pearl Harbor event.
To do what?

Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
We have the Northwoods document talking about using planes in devious ways.
And how many people were supposedly going to be killed?
Here, read about it yourself.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20...northwoods.pdf


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1/9 is a terrible batting average. Just .111

You need to go to the batting cage a little more
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Originally Posted by seewithyourowneyes View Post
There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as: the prior STOCK TRADING on the airlines the week before 911.

We are suppose to believe that Osama bin Laden, from his cave, made norad stand down our air force? Remember these planes were flying around for an hour and forty minutes. You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens. When I saw how the buildings fell the day it happened, It was not POSSIBLE. Then building 7, a 47 story building, hit by nothing, A PERFECT DEMOLITION*. Then we have PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, where the government says they need a new Pearl Harbor event. We have the Northwoods document talking about using planes in devious ways.

The Collapse of the WTC Not Caused by Jet Fuel
1. Osama Bin Laden was living in a huge compound in Afghanistan complete with training grounds for Al-Qaeda opperatives while hatching the plan for 9/11. The "cave men" nonsense borders on racism and shows your complete lack of knowledge regarding 911. They were not in caves until we drove them there following the invasion of Afghanistan.

2. NORAD didn't stand down. More misinformed nonsense.

3. I've flown over the Pentagon several times in a commercial airliner leaving Reagan National Airport, most of them POST-911. The Pentagon is NOT restricted airspace. Where do you get your information? You are terribly misinformed.

4. Building 7 was hit by nothing? I guess a 110 story building doesn't count in the realm of fantasy you live in. The collapse of WTC 1 caused significant damage to WTC 7.

5. PNAC is not the government. It was a think tank. Northwoods was thrown out by that administration and the General in charge fired and it didn't call for the deaths of a single american civilian. Apples and Oranges.

6. Only "twooftards" think we believe jet fuel caused the collapses, the fact is, the real TRUTH is the jet fuel was nothing but a fire initiator. It was not the fuel for the fire that kept them raging for 55 and 120 minutes. Office supplies and contents ARE, however.

Hey dude, welcome to the first days of the Truth Movement, you're about 8 years behind the curve. Suggest you catch up before you post again.
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Originally Posted by aggle-rithm View Post
OK, we've got Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Lawyers for 9/11 Truth, and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. All very impressive.

However, if they really want to impress me, they need to create Project Managers for 9/11 Truth.

Project Managers are people who know how to take diverse elements and put them together into a coherent whole. Something truthers, almost by definition, cannot do.

So how about it, truthers? Can one of you set up a website for people who claim to be project managers to assemble and throw their support behind The Movement?

I can't wait to see what insights they have to share.
If they did, it would look pretty much exactly like this:


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There are just too many questions that we need ANSWERED, such as: the prior STOCK TRADING on the airlines the week before 911.

We are suppose to believe that Osama bin Laden, from his cave, made norad stand down our air force? Remember these planes were flying around for an hour and forty minutes. You go try and fly near the pentagon for two seconds and see what happens. When I saw how the buildings fell the day it happened, It was not POSSIBLE. Then building 7, a 47 story building, hit by nothing, A PERFECT DEMOLITION*. Then we have PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY, where the government says they need a new Pearl Harbor event. We have the Northwoods document talking about using planes in devious ways.

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1/9 is a terrible batting average. Just .111

You need to go to the batting cage a little more
Worse than that....without the fuel the fires would likely have been much smaller and over less floors and perhaps possible to fight. So he is really 0/9 batting 0
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