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Old 8th February 2019, 06:48 PM   #41
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To avoid confusion. It hurt. Honestly.
It's a fine use of an adjective.

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Old 8th February 2019, 06:52 PM   #42
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Old 9th February 2019, 09:25 AM   #43
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Just want to say there’s an American who loves dirty words from over the pond. My favorite, as a euphemism for “fanny,” is “front-bum.”
I've always like the nice obscure Q-word.
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Old 9th February 2019, 09:27 AM   #44
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One of the strangest moments in my life was when I discovered a food item in the frozen section of a supermarket called Dr. Brain's Pork Faggots. As if a pork faggot wasn't grim enough, they got a fella called Dr. Brain to market them.
Plus, they taste worse than they sound.
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Old 9th February 2019, 01:30 PM   #45
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Re:Op: I wonder if the complaining dad who didn't like the ad is launching a crusade against women's wear in general? Guys wearing suits and ties, with women showing leg and cleavage and what have you. The female model in the ad was certainly posing differently, but so what? Does the brother get out much? People present themselves a whole lot more provocatively without comment. Are we to return to the age of showing no bare ankles in public?
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Old 9th February 2019, 02:47 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
BBC News: JD Sports removes Scotland kit photo after sexism row



"Scotland's official football kit retailer has removed a suggestive photo advertising women's football strips after a father complained.



JD Sports came under fire after using a model with ripped jeans, posing provocatively, to sell the female version of the official shirt.



Pictures of the men's and children's versions were presented in a more traditional standing pose.



The Scottish FA asked JD Sports to remove the image and it did.



Both the retailer and the SFA apologised "for any upset caused"."



Seems remarkable that nobody realised this would happen before the photos went live.
Man finds woman attractive. Complains.
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Old 9th February 2019, 02:55 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Re:Op: I wonder if the complaining dad who didn't like the ad is launching a crusade against women's wear in general? Guys wearing suits and ties, with women showing leg and cleavage and what have you. The female model in the ad was certainly posing differently, but so what? Does the brother get out much? People present themselves a whole lot more provocatively without comment. Are we to return to the age of showing no bare ankles in public?
I take it no scottish women who find the males dominant stance attractive have enough time to complain?

Also isn't this a form of "slut" shaming?
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Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term.
Many Brits, too.
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Old 13th February 2019, 02:25 AM   #49
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Many Brits, too.
Younger ones, maybe.

I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.
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Old 13th February 2019, 03:39 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by Hungry81 View Post
Man finds woman attractive. Complains.
News at 11.
What likely happened is he was leering at the photo when his wife caught him, prompting him to bluster, "This is disgusting! I was just about to complain in the strongest terms!" whilst turning away and tucking himself back in.
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Originally Posted by PursuedByABear View Post
Younger ones, maybe.

I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.
The thing is, it's slang, like "rugger." In colloquial usage, it's fine, but not so much in serious commentary or reporting.
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Old 13th February 2019, 04:41 AM   #52
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To any Scot in particular, the title of the thread

"Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt..."

reads like it is a typo, since it is the Scottish Football Association (SFA) who run the game, including the national team.
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To any Scot in particular, the title of the thread

"Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt..."

reads like it is a typo, since it is the Scottish Football Association (SFA) who run the game, including the national team.
No, the wording was very carefully considered, i.e. an Association Football shirt that is Scottish.
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No, the wording was very carefully considered, i.e. an Association Football shirt that is Scottish.
I am not saying it wasn't considered. I am saying to a Scot it reads oddly, like you have accidentally called the SFA the SAF.
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Old 14th February 2019, 02:56 AM   #55
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There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?
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There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?
Bah!
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Originally Posted by PursuedByABear View Post
Younger ones, maybe.

I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.
Yep.
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There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?
Yes, I thought about asking if posing retrovactively would be OK?*
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Yes, I thought about asking if posing retrovactively would be OK?*
I originally thought it meant "Proactively," but that didn't really square with the image of the Scotland team.

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I am not saying it wasn't considered. I am saying to a Scot it reads oddly, like you have accidentally called the SFA the SAF.
SAF sounds like a terrorist acronym, which to be fair, would be appropriate, given what they've done to the game.
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Old 15th February 2019, 07:32 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by autumn1971 View Post
Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term.

Being jeered at and chastised by Brits all the time for using it instead of saying "football" might have something to do with that.

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One of the strangest moments in my life was when I discovered a food item in the frozen section of a supermarket called Dr. Brain's Pork Faggots. As if a pork faggot wasn't grim enough, they got a fella called Dr. Brain to market them.
Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
Plus, they taste worse than they sound.
Quote:
"It is estimated that tens of millions of faggots are eaten every year, so they can't be that unpopular,"

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The BBC can be so edgy.

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Originally Posted by autumn1971 View Post
Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term.
Many Brits, too.

Being jeered at and chastised by Brits all the time for using it instead of saying "football" might have something to do with that.

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