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Old 11th February 2019, 07:30 AM   #1
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newspaper comic strip dumped for insulting President

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...-f-yourself-to

"A Pennsylvania newspaper has discontinued a syndicated comic strip after a cartoon published Sunday included a hidden insult to President Trump.

The Butler Eagle’s publisher and general manager Ron Vodenichar said that the paper was alerted by a reader to the hidden message in the “Non Sequitur” cartoon.

One panel of Sunday’s “Non Sequitur” cartoon, which encouraged readers to color it in themselves, appears to include the hidden message: “We fondly say go **** yourself to Trump.”



Lol, so-called adults writing cartoons for kids can't even get up to the level of their reader
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Old 11th February 2019, 07:32 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...-f-yourself-to

"A Pennsylvania newspaper has discontinued a syndicated comic strip after a cartoon published Sunday included a hidden insult to President Trump.

The Butler Eagle’s publisher and general manager Ron Vodenichar said that the paper was alerted by a reader to the hidden message in the “Non Sequitur” cartoon.

One panel of Sunday’s “Non Sequitur” cartoon, which encouraged readers to color it in themselves, appears to include the hidden message: “We fondly say go **** yourself to Trump.”



Lol, so-called adults writing cartoons for kids can't even get up to the level of their reader
It isn't for kids

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Old 11th February 2019, 07:33 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
It isn't for kids
The cartoon strip amongst peanuts and other Comics is not for kids?

Is that why so many liberals read comics?
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Old 11th February 2019, 07:34 AM   #4
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Perhaps the comics Creator should be doxxed and death threats sent to him and marches outside his house.


Oh wait that's what liberals do. Nevermind.
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Old 11th February 2019, 07:43 AM   #5
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Shouldn't you be happy that cartoons and such get pulled for offending conservatives as well? The current narrative seems to be that liberals are the ones who are always having shows canceled and public figures disgraced because they are offended by them. Doesn't this situation indicate some "fairness" in what gets dumped?

This incident demonstrates that it's not okay to attack liberals or conservatives, at least at this particular paper. Isn't that a good thing?

If you're complaining that someone wrote the cartoon in the first place, well, people do dumb partisan stuff all the time. The paper's response should be what matters more, I would think.

One last thing - I definitely don't think of newspaper comics, even Peanuts and Garfield and the like, as being for kids. A kid might recognize those characters or even like them, but newspaper comics tend to have punchlines that are dull or incomprehensible for children. It's my understanding that a lot of children know those sorts of characters through TV cartoons and movies as opposed to their original form.

Not that that makes what the cartoonist did okay. Of course plenty of kids probably do look at the comics. I used to read them sometimes as a kid even though I didn't "get" them. I wanted to feel like I was reading the paper, lol.

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Old 11th February 2019, 07:44 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
The cartoon strip amongst peanuts and other Comics is not for kids?

Is that why so many liberals read comics?
Because Cathy is so clearly a kids product.
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Then again some on the left think Dr. Seuss is racist so this isn't that surprising
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Just realized it was The Butler Eagle. Holy small world. A lot of people at my work live in Butler County. I wonder if any of them are fans of coloring.
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...-f-yourself-to

"A Pennsylvania newspaper has discontinued a syndicated comic strip after a cartoon published Sunday included a hidden insult to President Trump.

The Butler Eagle’s publisher and general manager Ron Vodenichar said that the paper was alerted by a reader to the hidden message in the “Non Sequitur” cartoon.

One panel of Sunday’s “Non Sequitur” cartoon, which encouraged readers to color it in themselves, appears to include the hidden message: “We fondly say go **** yourself to Trump.”



Lol, so-called adults writing cartoons for kids can't even get up to the level of their reader
...and?
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Old 11th February 2019, 08:17 AM   #10
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...and?
The Democrat side gets -1 point added to their scorecard and the Republican side get +1 added to theirs, which is going to matter on that magical day in the future when all politics come to a screeching halt and some mystical judge descends down from the heavens, tallies up both sides' points at that moment, and declares one side "The Winner" for all eternity that 99% of politician discussion seemingly operates under the assumption is going to happen someday.
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Old 11th February 2019, 08:39 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
The cartoon strip amongst peanuts and other Comics is not for kids?

Is that why so many liberals read comics?

You can be forgiven for thinking that a strip that pretends to be for kids isn't actually.
But didn't you even find it odd that a cartoon for kids is called Non Sequitur? And did it never occur to you that it might have something to do with a president who is functionally illiterate?
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I think the paper is upset about somebody letting an f-bomb get through, not insulting Trump.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
The Democrat side gets -1 point added to their scorecard and the Republican side get +1 added to theirs, which is going to matter on that magical day in the future when all politics come to a screeching halt and some mystical judge descends down from the heavens, tallies up both sides' points at that moment, and declares one side "The Winner" for all eternity that 99% of politician discussion seemingly operates under the assumption is going to happen someday.
In that case you and I better get started with the Hind-Wing thing. We've got some catching up to do.

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I think the paper is upset about somebody letting an f-bomb get through, not insulting Trump.
Probably true, but i was just leaning into the spin.
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Shouldn't you be happy that cartoons and such get pulled for offending conservatives as well? The current narrative seems to be that liberals are the ones who are always having shows canceled and public figures disgraced because they are offended by them. Doesn't this situation indicate some "fairness" in what gets dumped?
An unjust policy does not become just by applying it indiscriminately.

As much as I enjoy the schadenfreude and karmic satisfaction of seeing progressives eat themselves, it's my sincere desire that they lose their appetite for this fare altogether.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
An unjust policy does not become just by applying it indiscriminately.

As much as I enjoy the schadenfreude and karmic satisfaction of seeing progressives eat themselves, it's my sincere desire that they lose their appetite for this fare altogether.
But surely firing someone for slipping an f-bomb into a newspaper comic IS just, politics aside? Meanwhile, conservatives can enjoy the apparent fairness. It's a win-win.

(Mind you, I'm not trolling when I say this stuff. I don't consider myself a member of either "side;" I really have no idea where I fit these days.)
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(Mind you, I'm not trolling when I say this stuff. I don't consider myself a member of either "side;" I really have no idea where I fit these days.)
I have it on good authority that, if you're not on either side, then you're playing games trying to be in the exact middle all the time, which makes you wrong. +1 points to whoever points this out.
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But surely firing someone for slipping an f-bomb into a newspaper comic IS just, politics aside?
"Firing someone" is a bit of an overstatement, isn't it? We're talking about a strip that's syndicated in over 700 newspapers being dropped by one of them, which I think is probably proportionate to the scale of the original atrocity.

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Then again some on the left think Dr. Seuss is racist so this isn't that surprising
You know, some of his really old stuff has some pretty racist imagery. It really traded on then popular racial stereotypes. Check out, "If I Ran atheZoo."

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I think the paper is upset about somebody letting an f-bomb get through, not insulting Trump.
This.
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"Firing someone" is a bit of an overstatement, isn't it? We're talking about a strip that's syndicated in over 700 newspapers being dropped by one of them, which I think is probably proportionate to the scale of the original atrocity.

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Yeah, I was trying to use broad generalizations to cover all the germane controversies, and I guess that was kind of dumb in retrospect. I almost wrote "canning something," I guess that would have made more sense (maybe?).
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I have it on good authority that, if you're not on either side, then you're playing games trying to be in the exact middle all the time, which makes you wrong. +1 points to whoever points this out.
Is that what the person who derisively called me an "enlightened centrist" on Reddit meant?

I told him that disagreeing with both sides doesn't mean I fit square in the middle of them either, and he informed me that he enjoys shtupping my mother on the reg.
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Yeah, I was trying to use broad generalizations to cover all the germane controversies, and I guess that was kind of dumb in retrospect. I almost wrote "canning something," I guess that would have made more sense (maybe?).
"Reducing someone's earnings by a fraction of a percent" might be more accurate.

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"Reducing someone's earnings by a fraction of a percent" might be more accurate.

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Okay, you're right. Or even, "making some public gesture of caring about the controversy." That's what I mostly meant.
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Or even, "making some public gesture of caring about the controversy."


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An unjust policy does not become just by applying it indiscriminately.
It may be less unjust when applied uniformly than when applied in a targeted manner.

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As much as I enjoy the schadenfreude and karmic satisfaction of seeing progressives eat themselves, it's my sincere desire that they lose their appetite for this fare altogether.
I would like that too. But hitting them with their own weapons is the only way that can ever happen. If they could forever keep their torments aimed only at conservatives, there is no chance they would ever tire of it.

As Lincoln said, "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." Or if you like, as Alinsky said more cynically, "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules."
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Just an aside, but Non Sequiter generally runs as an inset into the Politics section of a newspaper, not on the general comics pages. At least, I've never seen one that has it on the funny pages (but I could have just missed that in a few cases).

isissxn seems to be in a good position to answer that question, should anyone find it pertinent.
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I don't recall Doonesbury ever sinking that low
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Just an aside, but Non Sequiter generally runs as an inset into the Politics section of a newspaper, not on the general comics pages. At least, I've never seen one that has it on the funny pages (but I could have just missed that in a few cases).

isissxn seems to be in a good position to answer that question, should anyone find it pertinent.
Yeah, I don't get that paper myself, but I'm positive I can hunt a copy down before the end of the workday. I'll see if I can confirm.
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"He lost a customer" is factually the most accurate.
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I don't recall Doonesbury ever sinking that low
If you want to see Trump, you have to sink that low.
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A newspaper comic strip went blue over the president! My stars! Send a telegram to Anthony Comstock and let him know the Kaiser's agents are making monkeys out of Hearst! What a dust-up!
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I read the newspaper comics online, and some of them, Pearls Before Swine, for example, make occasional negative references to Trump. It's usually followed by at least one person posting in the comments "Well, this is one less comic I'll be reading. Keep your politics out of the comic pages!!"
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But surely firing someone for slipping an f-bomb into a newspaper comic IS just, politics aside?
Sure. But that's not what you're talking about here:
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Probably true, but i was just leaning into the spin.
And here:
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Meanwhile, conservatives can enjoy the apparent fairness. It's a win-win.
It's not a win-win, though. And because it's actually a "firing" over the obscenity not the politics, it's not even an "apparent" fairness. Promoting a mistaken view of this incident along partisan lines seems like it only contributes to the toxic state of the conversation.
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Sure. But that's not what you're talking about here:

And here:

It's not a win-win, though. And because it's actually a "firing" over the obscenity not the politics, it's not even an "apparent" fairness. Promoting a mistaken view of this incident along partisan lines seems like it only contributes to the toxic state of the conversation.
My original comments were asking applecorped why he is pissed off, though. I thought he would agree with the dumping of the comic.

My rhetoric admittedly wasn't great, but I get tired of applecorped's posting style. It's always snippy and mocking and clearly alluding to something without saying exactly what.

Sorry applecorped. It's nothing against you personally. I think you are aware that you do this, though, so hopefully I'm not insulting you.
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I think the paper is upset about somebody letting an f-bomb get through, not insulting Trump.
That seems obvious, yes.
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I've looked at it an can't find those exact words. However I can find a few little scrawled notes in Latin that I can't translate. Is that it?

If so, I'm surprised anyone at all in the paper's readership would be able to understand it. They don't like them thar Latin illegals.
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Just an aside, but Non Sequiter generally runs as an inset into the Politics section of a newspaper, not on the general comics pages. At least, I've never seen one that has it on the funny pages (but I could have just missed that in a few cases).

isissxn seems to be in a good position to answer that question, should anyone find it pertinent.
It runs on the front page of the comics section here, right next to Dilbert, Zits, Baby Blues, Pearls Before Swine, and some horrible thing called, Breaking Cat News. The comic in question was ran in the Sunday paper, complete with the scrawled statement directed to the President.
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post

Lol, so-called adults writing cartoons for kids can't even get up to the level of their reader
You do realize that many cartoons in famous newspapers even, are long-running soap operas? Comics are for children like cartoons (Ninja Scrolls ftw!) are for children.
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Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
It runs on the front page of the comics section here, right next to Dilbert, Zits, Baby Blues, Pearls Before Swine, and some horrible thing called, Breaking Cat News. The comic in question was ran in the Sunday paper, complete with the scrawled statement directed to the President.
Thanks for that. My experience is limited, but I'd always seen it separated. Thought it was worth checking anyway
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Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey View Post
You do realize that many cartoons in famous newspapers even, are long-running soap operas? Comics are for children like cartoons (Ninja Scrolls ftw!) are for children.
There was that one Mary Worth strip where Mary declared, out of the blue during a Charterstone pool party, 'F da police'. But it went unremarked because the few who follow Mary Worth understand her and forgive all.
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