Stupid Parents + Stupid Zoo /= Dead Toddler, Luckily

Foolmewunz · 2nd January 2019, 09:56 PM

Notwithstanding the former member who would probably argue that the parents were trying to murder their kid, this seems like a perfect storm of stupidity.

Who thought, "I know, we'll build a rhino enclosure for the Get Up Close to the Terrifying Beasts area and leave spaces in the fence that a toddler can get through" was a good idea?

I realize most people have never been out in the Umfolozi but the first thing Ranger Gary told us, and he repeated often, was "they're instinctively territorial and will charge anything or any creature that crosses their arbitrary boundaries". Those boundaries change depending on various factors, and I'd imagine that at a zoo "enclosure I go to often" is probably a line of demarcation.

Who let's their toddler out of their arms around great hulking mindless brutes (people or animals - I would neither let my toddler down in the All Blacks scrum nor in a crash of rhinos)?

Very fortunate that the tyke isn't dead.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/01/u...zoo/index.html

angrysoba · 2nd January 2019, 10:04 PM

Because we just know that some racists are gonna race, it should be pointed out that this was a white rhino.

Norman Alexander · 2nd January 2019, 10:09 PM

Toddler should have had a gun.

bruto · 2nd January 2019, 10:55 PM

There's something just very wrong about the whole concept of "popular rhino encounters."

cullennz · 2nd January 2019, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Toddler should have had a gun.

A gun to stop a rhino would have to be bigger than the kid

Amazing animals

Fast as f'. Weigh about as much as a car, and are probably stronger and more protected. Get angry.

I think I read years ago (not sure if it's still current or whether I have it perfectly correct), that while people think the big cats are the biggest human killers, it is rhinos.

Mind you I would be angry too if I were them

Brainster · 2nd January 2019, 11:31 PM

Somebody appears to have forgotten that a safe enclosure bars both the animals and the humans from each other's territory.

bruto · 2nd January 2019, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

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A gun to stop a rhino would have to be bigger than the kid

Amazing animals

Fast as f'. Weigh about as much as a car, and are probably stronger and more protected. Get angry.

I think I read years ago that while ago (not sure if it's still current or whether I have it perfectly correct), that while people think the big cats are the biggest human killers, it is rhinos.

Mind you I would be angry too if I were them

Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos.

cullennz · 2nd January 2019, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos.

Could be true actually now I think

It was years ago

They aren't a fun thing to run into either I would imagine

Shadowdweller · 2nd January 2019, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Toddler should have had a gun.

Rhino too

jimbob · 3rd January 2019, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos.

Yes, because they spend a lot of time in rivers and lakes where people might fish, for example.

EHocking · 3rd January 2019, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos.

Since they’re the 3rd largest land animal behind elephant and white rhino, I’d say that they are not the biggest killers.

And of course none of these are the most deadly. The deadliest is actually one of the smallest animal.

DevilsAdvocate · 3rd January 2019, 01:39 AM

This is journalism sensational hype. This is a two year old toddler who should have been held back by her parents. She had to wedge her way through the bars. The father kept hold of her the whole time. She got "bumped" by the snout of one rhino. She suffered a mild abrasion to her face.

A kid would suffer more injury and risk by tripping on a lego brick and faceplanting on the carpet.

cullennz · 3rd January 2019, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by EHocking

Since they’re the 3rd largest land animal behind elephant and white rhino, I’d say that they are not the biggest killers.

And of course none of these are the most deadly. The deadliest is actually one of the smallest animal.

Every ones friend the mosquito

I was talking butch animals

Made a hash of that post all round really

Foolmewunz · 3rd January 2019, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Every ones friend the mosquito

I was talking butch animals

Made a hash of that post all round really

I think I saw a recent ranking of all creatures.

1. Man
2. Mosquito
3. Tse Tse Fly
4. Saltwater Croc
and then a whole bunch of amphibians, fish and reptiles five through nine and the Cape Buffalo was #10. No hippos, no rhinos. I think the latter can be explained by there being so few rhinos left. I'd imagine that while there are plenty of hippos, their habitat is much more limited now, too.

Oh, and you have to split "dogs" into two categories.... rabid and not. It's not the dog that kills, it's the rabies, so they count them as "disease deaths". Dogs would be waaaay up there near mosquitos if you counted rabies deaths which are astonishingly high, like 50 x that of crocodiles.

GlennB · 3rd January 2019, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

I think I saw a recent ranking of all creatures.

1. Man
2. Mosquito
3. Tse Tse Fly
4. Saltwater Croc
and then a whole bunch of amphibians, fish and reptiles five through nine and the Cape Buffalo was #10. No hippos, no rhinos. I think the latter can be explained by there being so few rhinos left. I'd imagine that while there are plenty of hippos, their habitat is much more limited now, too.

Oh, and you have to split "dogs" into two categories.... rabid and not. It's not the dog that kills, it's the rabies, so they count them as "disease deaths". Dogs would be waaaay up there near mosquitos if you counted rabies deaths which are astonishingly high, like 50 x that of crocodiles.

Bit of a nitpick, but why count mosquitoes if we're going to leave out dogs? It's mosquito-borne disease that kills, not the loss of blood

baron · 3rd January 2019, 03:17 AM

Quote:

A 2-year-old girl remains in the hospital a day after she was injured at a Florida zoo during a private rhino encounter experience

In the final analysis, all rhino encounters are private, and very personal.

Foolmewunz · 3rd January 2019, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Bit of a nitpick, but why count mosquitoes if we're going to leave out dogs? It's mosquito-borne disease that kills, not the loss of blood

Perhaps because you can't vaccinate mosquitos? Alternately, the mosquito borne killers are pretty exclusive to that critter but rabies can come from various mammals, so the dog bit is significant.

baron · 3rd January 2019, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Bit of a nitpick, but why count mosquitoes if we're going to leave out dogs? It's mosquito-borne disease that kills, not the loss of blood

It would be more logical to discount mosquitoes. It's a bit like saying water is the most deadly liquid on earth on account of five million people dying from waterborne diseases each year. The only conceivable purpose of these 'most deadly' lists is a fun point of interest, and in which case it should relate to the character, behaviour and inherent danger of the animal itself.

catsmate · 3rd January 2019, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos.

Mosquitoes, tsetse flies...

casebro · 3rd January 2019, 07:18 AM

I wiki'd it, 55,000 rabies deaths per year worldwide.

Likje oine case/year in California, either in an international traveler or from a raccoon.

baron · 3rd January 2019, 08:28 AM

The dog bite problem is created entirely by humans. Dogs are domesticated animals. When people fail to live up to their responsibilities dogs run wild and become diseased, and some of those diseases come back to literally bite people in the ass. You reap what you sow.

carlitos · 3rd January 2019, 08:42 AM

Correcting the topic title to "does not equal" instead of "slash equal sign" would be helpful in this instance. I was surprised to read that the toddler died, after having read that she was only injured yesterday.

RecoveringYuppy · 3rd January 2019, 08:48 AM

An 11" gap? That wouldn't even cut it for a stair railing, how did they get away with that here?

MikeG · 3rd January 2019, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by cullennz

....while people think the big cats are the biggest human killers, it is rhinos.......

No, you're confusing rhinos with hippos. And that's wrong too (rhinos, the few remaining ones, run away from humans). The biggest killers in the wild in Africa are 1/ mosquitoes, 2/ snakes, 3/ feral dogs. Hippos, in some sources, are said to kill around 3000 people a year (compared with 20,000+ each for dogs and snakes), and lions, leopards etc just a handful. Rhino kills of humans could likely be counted on one hand........per decade, and they'll all be captive animals.

JoeMorgue · 3rd January 2019, 09:41 AM

I think we all know the difference between an animal attack and disease transmission.

Castro · 3rd January 2019, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Correcting the topic title to "does not equal" instead of "slash equal sign" would be helpful in this instance. I was surprised to read that the toddler died, after having read that she was only injured yesterday.

Does /= = ≠? (genuine question).

TragicMonkey · 3rd January 2019, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I think we all know the difference between an animal attack and disease transmission.

What does it count as if a chimp stabs you with a hepatitis-infected needle? Worst New Year's party ever.

Whip · 3rd January 2019, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Because we just know that some racists are gonna race, it should be pointed out that this was a white rhino.

male? that would explain it.

carlitos · 3rd January 2019, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Castro

Does /= = ≠? (genuine question).

I have seen it as " =/= " but never " /= "

Ziggurat · 3rd January 2019, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

I think I saw a recent ranking of all creatures.

1. Man
2. Mosquito
3. Tse Tse Fly
4. Saltwater Croc
and then a whole bunch of amphibians, fish and reptiles five through nine and the Cape Buffalo was #10. No hippos, no rhinos.

I've seen various different reports in this regard. "Man" is frequently left out of the rankings as being in a separate category, mosquitos and tse tse flies may be left out since it's the diseases they spread which does the actual killing. For the rest, it seems to depend a bit on who you ask and how you count. This place claims hippos are number one in Africa:
https://www.reference.com/science/de...290af1b2ef5da3
This place lists top ten in Africa:
https://www.planetdeadly.com/animals...animals-africa
Rhinos are number 9, Nile croc is number 4, hippos are number 3. The number 2 and number 1 slots are really categories and not species: parasites and snakes, respectively.

Ziggurat · 3rd January 2019, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by carlitos

I have seen it as " =/= " but never " /= "

I've also seen it written as " != ", since that's frequently how it's written for computer programming.

Ziggurat · 3rd January 2019, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by baron

In the final analysis, all rhino encounters are private, and very personal.

~~Swipe~~ charge right.

TragicMonkey · 3rd January 2019, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Whip

male? that would explain it.

Male rhinos are notoriously horny.

TheGnome · 3rd January 2019, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

I have seen it as " =/= " but never " /= "

ALGOL 68? Fortran 90? Haskell?

At least according to Wikipedia

Whip · 3rd January 2019, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Male rhinos are notoriously horny.

but 'white males' are the devil. well, at least that's the latest rage.

Bob001 · 3rd January 2019, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

A gun to stop a rhino would have to be bigger than the kid
....

Let's note that she was barely brushed by the rhino. It would have been a tragedy -- and obviously unnecessary -- to kill it.

Quote:

The girl's father had been holding onto her at the time she fell and was able to pull her back almost as soon as she went into the enclosure, Winsten said.

When that happened, one of the female white rhinos turned her head and her snout made contact with the little girl. Winsten said zoo officials do not believe the rhino's horn hit the little girl.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...da/2461411002/

EHocking · 3rd January 2019, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Every ones friend the mosquito

I was talking butch animals

Made a hash of that post all round really

Yeah well my pedants joke about hippos only being the 3rd biggest killer vs the the most deadly was lost as well.

Even my point about mosquitoes seems to have not been read either, as there were a number of subsequent posts to mine that were basically “mosquitoes, Gotcha!”.

a_unique_person · 3rd January 2019, 04:03 PM

Up close petting a rhino. What could possibly go wrong.

Lambchops · 3rd January 2019, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Whip

but 'white males' are the devil. well, at least that's the latest rage.

Yeah, the latest rage for white males with a crippling persecution complex.

"I'm being oppressed, woe is me!"

Lol

carlitos · 3rd January 2019, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheGnome

ALGOL 68? Fortran 90? Haskell?

At least according to Wikipedia

Thanks - I did not know that.

2nd January 2019, 09:56 PM	#1
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 39,909	Stupid Parents + Stupid Zoo /= Dead Toddler, Luckily Notwithstanding the former member who would probably argue that the parents were trying to murder their kid, this seems like a perfect storm of stupidity. Who thought, "I know, we'll build a rhino enclosure for the Get Up Close to the Terrifying Beasts area and leave spaces in the fence that a toddler can get through" was a good idea? I realize most people have never been out in the Umfolozi but the first thing Ranger Gary told us, and he repeated often, was "they're instinctively territorial and will charge anything or any creature that crosses their arbitrary boundaries". Those boundaries change depending on various factors, and I'd imagine that at a zoo "enclosure I go to often" is probably a line of demarcation. Who let's their toddler out of their arms around great hulking mindless brutes (people or animals - I would neither let my toddler down in the All Blacks scrum nor in a crash of rhinos)? Very fortunate that the tyke isn't dead. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/01/u...zoo/index.html
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2nd January 2019, 10:09 PM	#3
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2nd January 2019, 10:55 PM	#4
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 23,431	There's something just very wrong about the whole concept of "popular rhino encounters."
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2nd January 2019, 11:30 PM	#5
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14,605	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Toddler should have had a gun. A gun to stop a rhino would have to be bigger than the kid Amazing animals Fast as f'. Weigh about as much as a car, and are probably stronger and more protected. Get angry. I think I read years ago (not sure if it's still current or whether I have it perfectly correct), that while people think the big cats are the biggest human killers, it is rhinos. Mind you I would be angry too if I were them
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bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 23,431	Originally Posted by cullennz s A gun to stop a rhino would have to be bigger than the kid Amazing animals Fast as f'. Weigh about as much as a car, and are probably stronger and more protected. Get angry. I think I read years ago that while ago (not sure if it's still current or whether I have it perfectly correct), that while people think the big cats are the biggest human killers, it is rhinos. Mind you I would be angry too if I were them Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos.
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2nd January 2019, 11:37 PM	#8
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14,605	Originally Posted by bruto Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos. Could be true actually now I think It was years ago They aren't a fun thing to run into either I would imagine
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2nd January 2019, 11:50 PM	#9
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3rd January 2019, 12:12 AM	#10
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 20,024	Originally Posted by bruto Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos. Yes, because they spend a lot of time in rivers and lakes where people might fish, for example.
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3rd January 2019, 12:51 AM	#11
EHocking Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,691	Originally Posted by bruto Actually I thought I heard the biggest human killers are hippos. Since they’re the 3rd largest land animal behind elephant and white rhino, I’d say that they are not the biggest killers. And of course none of these are the most deadly. The deadliest is actually one of the smallest animal.
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3rd January 2019, 01:39 AM	#12
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,029	This is journalism sensational hype. This is a two year old toddler who should have been held back by her parents. She had to wedge her way through the bars. The father kept hold of her the whole time. She got "bumped" by the snout of one rhino. She suffered a mild abrasion to her face. A kid would suffer more injury and risk by tripping on a lego brick and faceplanting on the carpet.
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3rd January 2019, 01:44 AM	#13
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 14,605	Originally Posted by EHocking Since they’re the 3rd largest land animal behind elephant and white rhino, I’d say that they are not the biggest killers. And of course none of these are the most deadly. The deadliest is actually one of the smallest animal. Every ones friend the mosquito I was talking butch animals Made a hash of that post all round really
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3rd January 2019, 02:16 AM	#14
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 39,909	Originally Posted by cullennz Every ones friend the mosquito I was talking butch animals Made a hash of that post all round really I think I saw a recent ranking of all creatures. 1. Man 2. Mosquito 3. Tse Tse Fly 4. Saltwater Croc and then a whole bunch of amphibians, fish and reptiles five through nine and the Cape Buffalo was #10. No hippos, no rhinos. I think the latter can be explained by there being so few rhinos left. I'd imagine that while there are plenty of hippos, their habitat is much more limited now, too. Oh, and you have to split "dogs" into two categories.... rabid and not. It's not the dog that kills, it's the rabies, so they count them as "disease deaths". Dogs would be waaaay up there near mosquitos if you counted rabies deaths which are astonishingly high, like 50 x that of crocodiles.
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GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arcadia, Greece Posts: 24,075	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz I think I saw a recent ranking of all creatures. 1. Man 2. Mosquito 3. Tse Tse Fly 4. Saltwater Croc and then a whole bunch of amphibians, fish and reptiles five through nine and the Cape Buffalo was #10. No hippos, no rhinos. I think the latter can be explained by there being so few rhinos left. I'd imagine that while there are plenty of hippos, their habitat is much more limited now, too. Oh, and you have to split "dogs" into two categories.... rabid and not. It's not the dog that kills, it's the rabies, so they count them as "disease deaths". Dogs would be waaaay up there near mosquitos if you counted rabies deaths which are astonishingly high, like 50 x that of crocodiles. Bit of a nitpick, but why count mosquitoes if we're going to leave out dogs? It's mosquito-borne disease that kills, not the loss of blood
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3rd January 2019, 03:17 AM	#16
baron Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,430	Quote: A 2-year-old girl remains in the hospital a day after she was injured at a Florida zoo during a private rhino encounter experience In the final analysis, all rhino encounters are private, and very personal.
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3rd January 2019, 03:32 AM	#17
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 39,909	Originally Posted by GlennB Bit of a nitpick, but why count mosquitoes if we're going to leave out dogs? It's mosquito-borne disease that kills, not the loss of blood Perhaps because you can't vaccinate mosquitos? Alternately, the mosquito borne killers are pretty exclusive to that critter but rabies can come from various mammals, so the dog bit is significant.
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3rd January 2019, 03:46 AM	#18
baron Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,430	Originally Posted by GlennB Bit of a nitpick, but why count mosquitoes if we're going to leave out dogs? It's mosquito-borne disease that kills, not the loss of blood It would be more logical to discount mosquitoes. It's a bit like saying water is the most deadly liquid on earth on account of five million people dying from waterborne diseases each year. The only conceivable purpose of these 'most deadly' lists is a fun point of interest, and in which case it should relate to the character, behaviour and inherent danger of the animal itself.
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3rd January 2019, 08:28 AM	#21
baron Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,430	The dog bite problem is created entirely by humans. Dogs are domesticated animals. When people fail to live up to their responsibilities dogs run wild and become diseased, and some of those diseases come back to literally bite people in the ass. You reap what you sow.
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3rd January 2019, 08:42 AM	#22
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19,299	Correcting the topic title to "does not equal" instead of "slash equal sign" would be helpful in this instance. I was surprised to read that the toddler died, after having read that she was only injured yesterday.

3rd January 2019, 08:48 AM	#23
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3rd January 2019, 09:28 AM	#24
MikeG Now. Do it now. Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: UK Posts: 24,804	Originally Posted by cullennz ....while people think the big cats are the biggest human killers, it is rhinos....... No, you're confusing rhinos with hippos. And that's wrong too (rhinos, the few remaining ones, run away from humans). The biggest killers in the wild in Africa are 1/ mosquitoes, 2/ snakes, 3/ feral dogs. Hippos, in some sources, are said to kill around 3000 people a year (compared with 20,000+ each for dogs and snakes), and lions, leopards etc just a handful. Rhino kills of humans could likely be counted on one hand........per decade, and they'll all be captive animals.
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3rd January 2019, 09:46 AM	#26
Castro Muse Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 715	Originally Posted by carlitos Correcting the topic title to "does not equal" instead of "slash equal sign" would be helpful in this instance. I was surprised to read that the toddler died, after having read that she was only injured yesterday. Does /= = ≠? (genuine question).
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3rd January 2019, 09:53 AM	#27
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles PITH Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 47,418	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue I think we all know the difference between an animal attack and disease transmission. What does it count as if a chimp stabs you with a hepatitis-infected needle? Worst New Year's party ever.
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3rd January 2019, 09:55 AM	#28
Whip Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,259	Originally Posted by angrysoba Because we just know that some racists are gonna race, it should be pointed out that this was a white rhino. male? that would explain it.
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3rd January 2019, 10:29 AM	#29
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19,299	Originally Posted by Castro Does /= = ≠? (genuine question). I have seen it as " =/= " but never " /= "

3rd January 2019, 10:37 AM	#30
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 41,943	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz I think I saw a recent ranking of all creatures. 1. Man 2. Mosquito 3. Tse Tse Fly 4. Saltwater Croc and then a whole bunch of amphibians, fish and reptiles five through nine and the Cape Buffalo was #10. No hippos, no rhinos. I've seen various different reports in this regard. "Man" is frequently left out of the rankings as being in a separate category, mosquitos and tse tse flies may be left out since it's the diseases they spread which does the actual killing. For the rest, it seems to depend a bit on who you ask and how you count. This place claims hippos are number one in Africa: https://www.reference.com/science/de...290af1b2ef5da3 This place lists top ten in Africa: https://www.planetdeadly.com/animals...animals-africa Rhinos are number 9, Nile croc is number 4, hippos are number 3. The number 2 and number 1 slots are really categories and not species: parasites and snakes, respectively.
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3rd January 2019, 10:41 AM	#31
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 41,943	Originally Posted by carlitos I have seen it as " =/= " but never " /= " I've also seen it written as " != ", since that's frequently how it's written for computer programming.
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3rd January 2019, 10:42 AM	#32
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 41,943	Originally Posted by baron In the final analysis, all rhino encounters are private, and very personal. ~~Swipe~~ charge right.
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3rd January 2019, 10:42 AM	#33
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles PITH Winner Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 47,418	Originally Posted by Whip male? that would explain it. Male rhinos are notoriously horny.
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3rd January 2019, 02:34 PM	#34
TheGnome Thinker Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bern, Switzerland Posts: 168	Originally Posted by carlitos I have seen it as " =/= " but never " /= " ALGOL 68? Fortran 90? Haskell? At least according to Wikipedia

3rd January 2019, 03:34 PM	#35
Whip Graduate Poster Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,259	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Male rhinos are notoriously horny. but 'white males' are the devil. well, at least that's the latest rage.
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