Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt... - Page 2

d4m10n · 8th February 2019, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Information Analyst

To avoid confusion. It hurt. Honestly.

It's a fine use of an adjective.

Association Football^WP

d4m10n · 8th February 2019, 06:52 PM

See also:

Gridiron Football^WP
Rugby Football^WP
Australian Football^WP

Information Analyst · 9th February 2019, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Just want to say there’s an American who loves dirty words from over the pond. My favorite, as a euphemism for “fanny,” is “front-bum.”

I've always like the nice obscure Q-word.

Information Analyst · 9th February 2019, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome

One of the strangest moments in my life was when I discovered a food item in the frozen section of a supermarket called Dr. Brain's Pork Faggots. As if a pork faggot wasn't grim enough, they got a fella called Dr. Brain to market them.

Plus, they taste worse than they sound.

Thermal · 9th February 2019, 01:30 PM

Re:Op: I wonder if the complaining dad who didn't like the ad is launching a crusade against women's wear in general? Guys wearing suits and ties, with women showing leg and cleavage and what have you. The female model in the ad was certainly posing differently, but so what? Does the brother get out much? People present themselves a whole lot more provocatively without comment. Are we to return to the age of showing no bare ankles in public?

Hungry81 · 9th February 2019, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Information Analyst

BBC News: JD Sports removes Scotland kit photo after sexism row

"Scotland's official football kit retailer has removed a suggestive photo advertising women's football strips after a father complained.

JD Sports came under fire after using a model with ripped jeans, posing provocatively, to sell the female version of the official shirt.

Pictures of the men's and children's versions were presented in a more traditional standing pose.

The Scottish FA asked JD Sports to remove the image and it did.

Both the retailer and the SFA apologised "for any upset caused"."

Seems remarkable that nobody realised this would happen before the photos went live.

Man finds woman attractive. Complains.
News at 11.

Hungry81 · 9th February 2019, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Thermal

Re:Op: I wonder if the complaining dad who didn't like the ad is launching a crusade against women's wear in general? Guys wearing suits and ties, with women showing leg and cleavage and what have you. The female model in the ad was certainly posing differently, but so what? Does the brother get out much? People present themselves a whole lot more provocatively without comment. Are we to return to the age of showing no bare ankles in public?

I take it no scottish women who find the males dominant stance attractive have enough time to complain?

Also isn't this a form of "slut" shaming?

zooterkin · 9th February 2019, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term.

Many Brits, too.

PursuedByABear · 13th February 2019, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Many Brits, too.

Younger ones, maybe.

I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.

baron · 13th February 2019, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Hungry81

Man finds woman attractive. Complains.
News at 11.

What likely happened is he was leering at the photo when his wife caught him, prompting him to bluster, "This is disgusting! I was just about to complain in the strongest terms!" whilst turning away and tucking himself back in.

Information Analyst · 13th February 2019, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by PursuedByABear

Younger ones, maybe.

I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.

The thing is, it's slang, like "rugger." In colloquial usage, it's fine, but not so much in serious commentary or reporting.

Nessie · 13th February 2019, 04:41 AM

To any Scot in particular, the title of the thread

"Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt..."

reads like it is a typo, since it is the Scottish Football Association (SFA) who run the game, including the national team.

Information Analyst · 13th February 2019, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by Nessie

To any Scot in particular, the title of the thread

"Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt..."

reads like it is a typo, since it is the Scottish Football Association (SFA) who run the game, including the national team.

No, the wording was very carefully considered, i.e. an Association Football shirt that is Scottish.

Nessie · 14th February 2019, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Information Analyst

No, the wording was very carefully considered, i.e. an Association Football shirt that is Scottish.

I am not saying it wasn't considered. I am saying to a Scot it reads oddly, like you have accidentally called the SFA the SAF.

Porpoise of Life · 14th February 2019, 02:56 AM

There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?

Information Analyst · 14th February 2019, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life

There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?

Bah!

zooterkin · 14th February 2019, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by PursuedByABear

Younger ones, maybe.

I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.

Yep.

Elagabalus · 14th February 2019, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life

There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?

Yes, I thought about asking if posing retrovactively would be OK?*

Dave Rogers · 15th February 2019, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Yes, I thought about asking if posing retrovactively would be OK?*

I originally thought it meant "Proactively," but that didn't really square with the image of the Scotland team.

Dave

commandlinegamer · 15th February 2019, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Nessie

I am not saying it wasn't considered. I am saying to a Scot it reads oddly, like you have accidentally called the SFA the SAF.

SAF sounds like a terrorist acronym, which to be fair, would be appropriate, given what they've done to the game.

quadraginta · 15th February 2019, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term.

Being jeered at and chastised by Brits all the time for using it instead of saying "football" might have something to do with that.

quadraginta · 15th February 2019, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome

One of the strangest moments in my life was when I discovered a food item in the frozen section of a supermarket called Dr. Brain's Pork Faggots. As if a pork faggot wasn't grim enough, they got a fella called Dr. Brain to market them.

Originally Posted by Information Analyst

Plus, they taste worse than they sound.

Quote:

"It is estimated that tens of millions of faggots are eaten every year, so they can't be that unpopular,"

BBC

The BBC can be so edgy.

quadraginta · 15th February 2019, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Originally Posted by autumn1971

Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term.

Many Brits, too.

Being jeered at and chastised by Brits all the time for using it instead of saying "football" might have something to do with that.

8th February 2019, 06:48 PM	#41
d4m10n Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 3,698	Originally Posted by Information Analyst To avoid confusion. It hurt. Honestly. It's a fine use of an adjective. Association Football^WP
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8th February 2019, 06:52 PM	#42
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9th February 2019, 01:30 PM	#45
Thermal Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NJ USA. We Don't Like You Either Posts: 7,065	Re:Op: I wonder if the complaining dad who didn't like the ad is launching a crusade against women's wear in general? Guys wearing suits and ties, with women showing leg and cleavage and what have you. The female model in the ad was certainly posing differently, but so what? Does the brother get out much? People present themselves a whole lot more provocatively without comment. Are we to return to the age of showing no bare ankles in public?
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9th February 2019, 02:47 PM	#46
Hungry81 Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,084	Originally Posted by Information Analyst BBC News: JD Sports removes Scotland kit photo after sexism row "Scotland's official football kit retailer has removed a suggestive photo advertising women's football strips after a father complained. JD Sports came under fire after using a model with ripped jeans, posing provocatively, to sell the female version of the official shirt. Pictures of the men's and children's versions were presented in a more traditional standing pose. The Scottish FA asked JD Sports to remove the image and it did. Both the retailer and the SFA apologised "for any upset caused"." Seems remarkable that nobody realised this would happen before the photos went live. Man finds woman attractive. Complains. News at 11.
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9th February 2019, 02:55 PM	#47
Hungry81 Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,084	Originally Posted by Thermal Re:Op: I wonder if the complaining dad who didn't like the ad is launching a crusade against women's wear in general? Guys wearing suits and ties, with women showing leg and cleavage and what have you. The female model in the ad was certainly posing differently, but so what? Does the brother get out much? People present themselves a whole lot more provocatively without comment. Are we to return to the age of showing no bare ankles in public? I take it no scottish women who find the males dominant stance attractive have enough time to complain? Also isn't this a form of "slut" shaming?
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9th February 2019, 09:25 AM	#43
Information Analyst Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Besźel or Ul Qoma - not sure... Posts: 9,064	Originally Posted by autumn1971 Just want to say there’s an American who loves dirty words from over the pond. My favorite, as a euphemism for “fanny,” is “front-bum.” I've always like the nice obscure Q-word.

9th February 2019, 09:27 AM	#44
Information Analyst Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Besźel or Ul Qoma - not sure... Posts: 9,064	Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome One of the strangest moments in my life was when I discovered a food item in the frozen section of a supermarket called Dr. Brain's Pork Faggots. As if a pork faggot wasn't grim enough, they got a fella called Dr. Brain to market them. Plus, they taste worse than they sound.

9th February 2019, 03:42 PM	#48
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Deputy Admin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 42,238	Originally Posted by autumn1971 Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term. Many Brits, too.
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13th February 2019, 02:25 AM	#49
PursuedByABear Scholar Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 120	Originally Posted by zooterkin Many Brits, too. Younger ones, maybe. I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification.
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13th February 2019, 03:39 AM	#50
baron Guest Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,627	Originally Posted by Hungry81 Man finds woman attractive. Complains. News at 11. What likely happened is he was leering at the photo when his wife caught him, prompting him to bluster, "This is disgusting! I was just about to complain in the strongest terms!" whilst turning away and tucking himself back in.
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13th February 2019, 04:05 AM	#51
Information Analyst Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Besźel or Ul Qoma - not sure... Posts: 9,064	Originally Posted by PursuedByABear Younger ones, maybe. I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification. The thing is, it's slang, like "rugger." In colloquial usage, it's fine, but not so much in serious commentary or reporting.

13th February 2019, 04:41 AM	#52
Nessie Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,713	To any Scot in particular, the title of the thread "Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt..." reads like it is a typo, since it is the Scottish Football Association (SFA) who run the game, including the national team.
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13th February 2019, 04:46 AM	#53
Information Analyst Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Besźel or Ul Qoma - not sure... Posts: 9,064	Originally Posted by Nessie To any Scot in particular, the title of the thread "Posing "provactively" whilst wearing an Scottish Association Football shirt..." reads like it is a typo, since it is the Scottish Football Association (SFA) who run the game, including the national team. No, the wording was very carefully considered, i.e. an Association Football shirt that is Scottish.

14th February 2019, 02:50 AM	#54
Nessie Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 11,713	Originally Posted by Information Analyst No, the wording was very carefully considered, i.e. an Association Football shirt that is Scottish. I am not saying it wasn't considered. I am saying to a Scot it reads oddly, like you have accidentally called the SFA the SAF.
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14th February 2019, 02:56 AM	#55
Porpoise of Life Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 4,746	There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'?

14th February 2019, 04:01 AM	#56
Information Analyst Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Besźel or Ul Qoma - not sure... Posts: 9,064	Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'? Bah!

14th February 2019, 12:09 PM	#57
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Deputy Admin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 42,238	Originally Posted by PursuedByABear Younger ones, maybe. I am nearly 50 and when I was a kid the word "soccer" was ubiquitous in the UK. I don't know where this idea that it's a purely American term first took hold, but it came in very quickly, and without any justification. Yep.
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14th February 2019, 12:15 PM	#58
Elagabalus Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 4,096	Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life There does appear to be a typo though, isn't it 'provocatively'? Yes, I thought about asking if posing retrovactively would be OK?*
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15th February 2019, 02:15 AM	#59
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15th February 2019, 12:44 PM	#60
commandlinegamer Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mazes of Menace Posts: 8,849	Originally Posted by Nessie I am not saying it wasn't considered. I am saying to a Scot it reads oddly, like you have accidentally called the SFA the SAF. SAF sounds like a terrorist acronym, which to be fair, would be appropriate, given what they've done to the game.
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15th February 2019, 07:32 PM	#61
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility Posts: 23,229	Originally Posted by autumn1971 Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term. Being jeered at and chastised by Brits all the time for using it instead of saying "football" might have something to do with that.
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15th February 2019, 07:46 PM	#62
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility Posts: 23,229	Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome One of the strangest moments in my life was when I discovered a food item in the frozen section of a supermarket called Dr. Brain's Pork Faggots. As if a pork faggot wasn't grim enough, they got a fella called Dr. Brain to market them. Originally Posted by Information Analyst Plus, they taste worse than they sound. Quote: "It is estimated that tens of millions of faggots are eaten every year, so they can't be that unpopular," BBC The BBC can be so edgy.
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15th February 2019, 07:54 PM	#63
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility Posts: 23,229	Originally Posted by zooterkin Originally Posted by autumn1971 Most Americans are surprised to learn that soccer is a UK term. Many Brits, too. Being jeered at and chastised by Brits all the time for using it instead of saying "football" might have something to do with that.
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