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22nd November 2012, 11:53 AM | #361 |
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Avalon, do you think Xtians act more morally than atheists?
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22nd November 2012, 12:01 PM | #363 |
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22nd November 2012, 12:14 PM | #364 |
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22nd November 2012, 12:18 PM | #365 |
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22nd November 2012, 12:25 PM | #366 |
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Are you implying that I'm attacking you? Or is science attacking theism or what?
With no snark, I am trying to figure out what your point is. If you don't care to attempt to clarify your statements, that's okay, but please don't presume that everyone else understands you because I happen to be the only one to declare my confusion. |
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22nd November 2012, 01:01 PM | #368 |
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Cool. I haven't missed anything yet.
Do you never wonder why the theists are so damn keen to let us in on their big secrets? They know all this stuff, they seem like they want me to believe it too, but they never quite get round to putting the cards on the table and showing me what they promise. I guess they're busy people. |
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22nd November 2012, 01:03 PM | #370 |
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22nd November 2012, 02:40 PM | #371 |
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Yours? It's frustrating, I admit, but I won't give up on you. I'm ever hopeful that you'll give up your childhood delusions.
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Ok, enough word play. Any chance of you actually providing evidence for your favorite brand of sky daddy and that obeying its whims is a universal good? |
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22nd November 2012, 05:02 PM | #374 |
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Well, i think that stuff would be more overly-anthropomorphic than someone who usually refers to himself as "i", and (above) declares that humans per se "take themselves [beyond] too-seriously".
Not sure that that's what you, or the others, really want. It's odd how everyone has "made up its mind", but while "the jury is still out". Eg, the "I'm okay, you're okay" series of books puts that time frame at about 4 to 5 years of age. And, has to literally be millions of long-forgot (but "endlessly" paraphrased) message-board pages scattered across the internet... and scarcely a sincere reply of the sort, "My god, I didn't know that. I was such a fool. Thank you for sharing." Beyond what i have written here, in its limited scope, skipping to an answer at the back of an algebra book, well, isn't quite the same as to an actual working theory of everything. How could such be even the work of one author, let alone one's to "lay title to"? But mainly, people like to "make their own mistakes", perhaps an odd "excuse" for not really looking for such in specific, or even in general, anyway. And i like to openly "talk to myself" a lot. Motivation, and sometimes to jiggle something into place (to finally discover what that something was). P.S. No philosophers/scientists were killed in the researching of this post. Lol. |
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The magical stuff the religious believe can't be backed up with actual evidence. Unfortunately tortured analogies are pretty much all the faithful have. Also unfortunately, the typical theist doesn't seem to have the honesty to simply admit their silly beliefs are a matter of faith and can't be supported with evidence. The answer to your question is no actual evidence has been, or ever will be provided. We will not get an honest, reasoned response from AvalonXQ, and the assertion will remain unsupported. You can say that again. |
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23rd November 2012, 04:30 AM | #381 |
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The bible says a lot of things.
So does the koran, the torah and every other religious text. Proof.. that's where they are short on. Coming back to your little godwin. You claim that without absolute morality we cannot judge the nazi regime for its crimes. Yet I cannot help but notice you never explained why appearantly the absolute morality in germany during the nazi years was different from the absolute morality of the western world, as there were no major revolts in germany during that time, indicating noone really felt immoral acts were being performed. |
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So really abortion just means all those souls go straight to heaven without ever experiencing the pain and suffering of the world or being exposed to the possibility that they will fail to accept Jesus as their backstage pass to the pearly gates.
Properly viewed, abortionists may save more souls than Jesus, and may be more moral than Jesus to boot. THEIR sacrifice is to burn in hell for all eternity, while Jesus just dropped in for a couple of days, said "the hell with this" and split. Or, since they're saving all those souls, maybe a just God sneaks them into heaven too. In which case, I guess they're not QUITE as moral as Jesus, but still exemplary role models. |
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The imperfections in the mammalian reproductive process sends 50% of all those conceived to heaven, within about the first month after conception.
Lots of sin-free zygotes up there. |
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Only valuing someone's opinion when it agrees with your own is very shallow and minimizes your argument. Since you've cited Bart Ehrman, you must also agree with his opinion that there was no divine Jesus. I agree with you, Jesus may have existed. Many Jesusii may have existed as itinerant preachers since the name Jesus and itinerant preachers abounded. I also agree with your citation of Bart Ehrman's opinion that none of them was divine.
Now that we've established that Jesus wasn't divine, can you answer the original question of why you believe a mortal man is the basis for morality? As a follow on question, where did morals come from before that? |
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