The post-Trump fascist creep catch-all thread - Page 15

dudalb · 5th March 2022, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mike!

Don't give them any ideas.

WOLVERINES!

Captain_Swoop · 5th March 2022, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I make the occassnional joke about France's military record but this is just plain ignorance.

Why? Vichy France was a puppet regime of traitors that collaborated with the Nazis.
It seems Very appropriate comment to me.

Stacyhs · 5th March 2022, 04:41 PM

Quote:

“I think the best term for them is authoritarian,” says historian Robert Paxton, the author of Vichy France: Old Guard and New Order, 1940-1944. “It doesn’t act like a fascist regime because traditionally elites have to give way, and in authoritarianism they retain power. But all the foreign Jews were put into camps, they cracked down on dissent, and it was in some ways increasingly a police state.”

Pétain wanted to return to a more conservative mode of life, and to that end there were strong prohibitions against divorce, abortion was made a capital offense, the press was censored, phone calls were monitored and critics of the government were imprisoned.

Sounds much more like Trump's desired view (except for the prohibition against divorce) of the US and DeSantis is a Trump wannabe.

Lurch · 6th March 2022, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Sounds much more like Trump's desired view (except for the prohibition against divorce) of the US and DeSantis is a Trump wannabe.

And that paradise would (will???) be extolled by all the little Trumpers as "Great" and "free" because the *right* sort of people have their necks under the heel of the State.

bruto · 7th March 2022, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

A semi-regular occurrence of late.

I've been both victim and perpetrator recently. On fast-moving threads, it's possible not only to miss something, but if you take time to edit, or get called away half-way through writing it, it could end up 20 posts further down than it started.

shemp · 8th March 2022, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

I've been both victim and perpetrator recently. On fast-moving threads, it's possible not only to miss something, but if you take time to edit, or get called away half-way through writing it, it could end up 20 posts further down than it started.

Happened a lot more in the early days of the forum, when there were sometimes a thousand or more members all on here at once.

Matthew Best · 9th March 2022, 03:48 AM

A Michigan Republican said he tells his daughters to “lie back and enjoy it” if rape is inevitable.

Robert “RJ” Regan, who is running for a state House seat, made the comments on a Sunday Facebook livestream hosted by a conservative group.

The Kent County candidate — who won a four-way special election to snag the Republican nomination for the seat last week — also recently said that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a “fake war just like the fake pandemic.”

His comments came a year after he shared a series of anti-Semitic social media posts, according to The Times of Israel.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/michig...is-inevitable/

Stacyhs · 9th March 2022, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

A Michigan Republican said he tells his daughters to “lie back and enjoy it” if rape is inevitable.

Robert “RJ” Regan, who is running for a state House seat, made the comments on a Sunday Facebook livestream hosted by a conservative group.

The Kent County candidate — who won a four-way special election to snag the Republican nomination for the seat last week — also recently said that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a “fake war just like the fake pandemic.”

His comments came a year after he shared a series of anti-Semitic social media posts, according to The Times of Israel.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/michig...is-inevitable/

Well, after all, since the body has a way of preventing pregnancy in a rape, why not?

He sounds like the perfect Republican candidate these days: misogynist, bigot, pro-Putin, Covid-19 denier, Rigged Election promoter, and a liar. After getting criticized for the 'rape' comment he attempted to do damage control by lying:

"Regan told "Your Defending Fathers" the point of his rape comment was to demonstrate the grassroots of the GOP is "sick and tired of the establishment telling us, 'You just have to sit there and take it.'"

"Just lie there and enjoy it," Regan said. "This is the way this is going to be. And I used the example: 'That would be like if I told my three daughters that rape is inevitable and you should just lie back and enjoy it.'"

But that's not what he actually said which was:

"Having three daughters, I tell my daughters, well, 'If rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it. That's not how we roll. That's not how I won this election. We go right at it."

There is no "like if" in that video statement.

Quote:

The condemnation preceded new revelations about Regan, including videos he posted online last year that featured Dr. Anthony Fauci next to a noose, suggesting COVID-19 vaccines were part of a planned government "genocide" and endorsing the widely debunked QAnon conspiracy theory.

The Grand Rapids resident, who scored an upset win last week in a special primary election for the solidly Republican 74th District in west Michigan, has also called the Ukraine war a “fake war just like the fake pandemic” and shared a meme claiming that feminism is “a Jewish program to degrade and subjugate white men.”

In other social media posts, Regan shared conspiracy theories claiming that Jewish people were behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and presidential assassinations [Lincoln and Kennedy] and control the banks as well as the media.

Quote:

Robert Regan, the GOP-backed nominee for a Michigan state House seat, used the right-wing video site Rumble to endorse the killings of President Joe Biden, Prime Ministers Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand and Boris Johnson of the United Kingdom, and Dr. Anthony Fauci, among others.

Regan has also frequently shared right-wing media-fueled conspiracy theories on social media, including advising people to “study” and “apply” QAnon to their lives like they do with the Bible, and falsely claiming that Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman “staged” his famous face down with insurrectionists inside the Capitol on January 6.

(https://www.mediamatters.org/qanon-c...uci-and-others)

Really, Republicans? THIS is the best you can do? THIS is what you support? OuT of THREE OTHER GOP CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE?

Stacyhs · 9th March 2022, 04:49 PM

Even Robert Regan's own daughter urges people NOT to vote for her father:

Quote:

In the viral tweet, which has racked up more than 159,000 likes in the past two days, Stephanie Regan, the daughter of Republican state House candidate Robert Regan, writes, “If you’re in Michigan and 18+ pls for the love of god do not vote for my dad for state rep. Tell everyone.”

In a pair of tweets the day after, Stephanie wrote that her father was Robert Regan and called on voters to research his campaign, writing: “I don’t feel safe rn sharing further information regarding his beliefs, but please look him up and just read for yourself.”

Jim_MDP · 10th March 2022, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Even Robert Regan's own daughter urges people NOT to vote for her father:

Well that should make for some interesting family gatherings.

Much like that pol from Colorado or thereabouts (name?) whose handful of adult siblings begged people not to elect him.
The voters did anyway.

Regnad Kcin · 10th March 2022, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

Well that should make for some interesting family gatherings.

Much like that pol from Colorado or thereabouts (name?) whose handful of adult siblings begged people not to elect him.
The voters did anyway.

Gosar of Arizona.

ahhell · 10th March 2022, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

Well that should make for some interesting family gatherings.

Much like that pol from Colorado or thereabouts (name?) whose handful of adult siblings begged people not to elect him.
The voters did anyway.

I'm guessing they don't spend the holidays together.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Really, Republicans? THIS is the best you can do? THIS is what you support? OuT of THREE OTHER GOP CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE?

Keep in mind the crowded field is partially responsible for his victory.

If you had 3 other candidates running and their all three bog standard republicans, the nuttiest candidate has a much better chance. There's other issues too, off course. Only the most motivated voters(read extreme) vote in primaries, etc.

Edit, this race really highlights one of the big problems with US politics.

He got about 33% of the vote from about 8000 people that showed up representing about 90k residents.

Jim_MDP · 10th March 2022, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Gosar of Arizona.

Thanks. Don't know why I didn't think first of Arizona, except the Loony Sisters have me thinking of Colorado and Georgia every time I see a political headline.

Stacyhs · 10th March 2022, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by ahhell

I'm guessing they don't spend the holidays together.
Keep in mind the crowded field is partially responsible for his victory.

If you had 3 other candidates running and their all three bog standard republicans, the nuttiest candidate has a much better chance. There's other issues too, off course. Only the most motivated voters(read extreme) vote in primaries, etc.

Edit, this race really highlights one of the big problems with US politics.

He got about 33% of the vote from about 8000 people that showed up representing about 90k residents.

And yet you can bet he'll beat the Democrat because a misogynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, Pro-Putin, Covid 19 denying, nut case Republican is better than a sane Democrat. Sad.

ahhell · 10th March 2022, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

And yet you can bet he'll beat the Democrat because a misogynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, Pro-Putin, Covid 19 denying, nut case Republican is better than a sane Democrat. Sad.

Keep in mind, its a district of 90k people, somewhere around 70k of which aren't going to pay any attention to the election until less than a month before it happens.

They won't know he's a misoynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, pro-putin, covid 19 denier. And they won't believe dems because dems have been saying most of that about every Republican that has run for office since the 80s.

Stacyhs · 10th March 2022, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by ahhell

Keep in mind, its a district of 90k people, somewhere around 70k of which aren't going to pay any attention to the election until less than a month before it happens.

They won't know he's a misoynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, pro-putin, covid 19 denier. And they won't believe dems because dems have been saying most of that about every Republican that has run for office since the 80s.

More likely they'll think those are reasons TO vote for him.

Norman Alexander · 10th March 2022, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

And yet you can bet he'll beat the Democrat because a misogynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, Pro-Putin, Covid 19 denying, nut case Republican is better than a sane Democrat. Sad.

Originally Posted by ahhell

Keep in mind, its a district of 90k people, somewhere around 70k of which aren't going to pay any attention to the election until less than a month before it happens.

They won't know he's a misoynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, pro-putin, covid 19 denier. And they won't believe dems because dems have been saying most of that about every Republican that has run for office since the 80s.

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

More likely they'll think those are reasons TO vote for him.

Why don't the Dems get smart and put this POS on their ticket? Then he will get next to zero votes. Yes, another GOPer will probably win, but at least it won't be this waste-of-oxygen.

Stacyhs · 11th March 2022, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Why don't the Dems get smart and put this POS on their ticket? Then he will get next to zero votes. Yes, another GOPer will probably win, but at least it won't be this waste-of-oxygen.

Because Dems wouldn't have a POS like him on their ticket?

Bob001 · 12th March 2022, 07:25 PM

Scholar of civil wars says that's where we're headed.

Quote:

I wish it were the case that by not talking about it we could prevent anything from happening. But the reality is, if we don’t talk about it, [violent extremists] are going to continue to organize, and they’re going to continue to train. There are definitely lots of groups on the far right who want war. They are preparing for war. And not talking about it does not make us safer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...-this-country/

shemp · 13th March 2022, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Scholar of civil wars says that's where we're headed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...-this-country/

At age 64, I can no longer hope that it never happens, only that it happens after I'm dead.

Skeptic Ginger · 13th March 2022, 01:16 PM

I can not only hope it doesn't happen, it seems to me the cult/army of Dump is not big enough to do anything more than guerrilla war sabotage.

What can happen, unfortunately, if enough people don't come out to vote, is take over Congress.

Bob001 · 13th March 2022, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I can not only hope it doesn't happen, it seems to me the cult/army of Dump is not big enough to do anything more than guerrilla war sabotage.
....

That is what the writer is predicting, not a repeat of the Civil War. But a guerrilla war can do plenty of damage for a long time, especially with the support of a substantial percentage of the population, as seems likely.

Quote:

What we’re heading toward is an insurgency, which is a form of a civil war. That is the 21st-century version of a civil war, especially in countries with powerful governments and powerful militaries, which is what the United States is. And it makes sense. An insurgency tends to be much more decentralized, often fought by multiple groups. Sometimes they’re actually competing with each other. Sometimes they coordinate their behavior. They use unconventional tactics. They target infrastructure. They target civilians. They use domestic terror and guerrilla warfare. Hit-and-run raids and bombs. We’ve already seen this in other countries with powerful militaries, right? The IRA took on the British government. Hamas has taken on the Israeli government. These are two of the most powerful militaries in the world. And they fought for decades. And in the case of Hamas I think we could see a third intifada. And they pursue a similar strategy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...-this-country/

ETA: There's also this:

Quote:

REDDING, Calif. — The far right is rising in the ranchland of Northern California, using special elections and veiled intimidation to spread political influence across a historically conservative region of this deeply liberal state.

The movement is rooted here in Shasta County and includes the support of a roughly decade-old militia. The gains it has achieved have come at the expense of moderate Republicans, who for generations fit the small-government, light-regulation ethic that guided political life here.

No longer.

The combination of California’s pandemic-prompted mask regulations and President Donald Trump’s reelection loss have fused together a conservative group of angry mothers, militia leaders and disaffected Republicans adrift in a blue state. Trumpists are voting out Trumpists. Veteran Republican politicians are seeing their terms cut short.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...right-militia/

Stacyhs · 17th March 2022, 01:41 PM

In the latest idiocy emanating from Donnie T:

Quote:

In an email sent to supporters Thursday, Trump said the inflation "mess" in the United States would not be happening if Republican leadership took action on alleged election fraud in the presidential race in that state and elsewhere. The email was in response to the ongoing Wisconsin investigation into the state's results in the 2020 election.

"Our country would not be in the mess it's in if Republicans had the courage to act," Trump wrote, referring to decertification of the election results in Wisconsin and other states. "We would be energy independent, no inflation, the Ukraine desecration would not be happening, our economy would be strong, there would have been no surrender in Afghanistan, and so much else."

And everyone would have a magical, flying unicorn if Trump were president!

Dr. Keith · 17th March 2022, 02:39 PM

I heard that this time Mexico will pay for the wall!

Stacyhs · 17th March 2022, 03:35 PM

The cognitive dissonance in these Trump supporters is Yuuuuuge. They also have no idea they're being mocked. Not the brightest bulbs, are they?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbIkpuXMN1m/

shemp · 17th March 2022, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

The cognitive dissonance in these Trump supporters is Yuuuuuge. They also have no idea they're being mocked. Not the brightest bulbs, are they?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbIkpuXMN1m/

If I hit my own head 100 times every day with a hammer, real hard, for a whole year, I'd still be smarter than any of these ******* morons.

Aridas · 18th March 2022, 03:16 AM

This might be somewhat relevant for this thread -

Revealed: Texas threw out abnormally high number of votes in March primary

Quote:

Texas threw out mail votes at an abnormally high rate during the US’s first primary election of 2022, rejecting nearly 23,000 ballots outright under tougher voting rules that are part of a broad campaign by Republicans to reshape American elections, according to an analysis by the Associated Press.

Roughly 13% of mail ballots returned in the 1 March primary were discarded and uncounted across 187 counties in Texas. While historical primary comparisons are lacking, the double-digit rejection rate would be far beyond what is typical in a general election, when experts say anything above 2% is usually cause for attention.

<snip>

In Texas, a state Donald Trump easily won although by a smaller margin than 2016, the trouble of navigating new rules was felt in counties big and small, red and blue. But the rejection rate was higher in counties that lean Democratic (15.1%) than Republican (9.1%).

I'd say that that's waaaay more blatant than usual, but sadly unsurprising for the current GOP.

Stacyhs · 18th March 2022, 11:26 AM

The GOP is intent on stopping the election fraud that never happened.

.

Ranb · 18th March 2022, 01:17 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/polit...ent/index.html

it seems that dialing back on your "bat-**** crazy" is grounds for losing Trump's support. I think that someday soon this might be a good thing even for the alt-right.

Ranb

Stacyhs · 18th March 2022, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ranb

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/polit...ent/index.html

it seems that dialing back on your "bat-**** crazy" is grounds for losing Trump's support. I think that someday soon this might be a good thing even for the alt-right.

Ranb

Of course it is. Trump demands unwavering and sycophantic loyalty from his cultist followers. But he gives none in return. Trump's a snake and everyone else is just the frog.

Aridas · 20th March 2022, 11:21 AM

Note: This link is not verified news reporting, just what seems to be a sigh of relief.

Iowa's "Let's make being a librarian illegal" bill dies during funnel week.

shemp · 21st March 2022, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

The GOP is intent on stopping the election fraud that never happened.

.

And creating their own!

Aridas · 22nd March 2022, 08:25 PM

This seems like it could have some relevance...

Republican Senator calls for the Supreme Court to re-allow bans on interracial marriage

The headline sums it up fairly well, really. Indiana Republican Sen. Mike Braun, for reference, and State's Rights!

Lurch · 23rd March 2022, 02:41 PM

If these "States' Rigbts" advocates would have their way, it would be even more of a Dis-United States of America that it already is.

America really needs the kind of shock Ukraine is now enduring in order to make the "United" in its name have meaning again.

dudalb · 23rd March 2022, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Aridas

This seems like it could have some relevance...

Republican Senator calls for the Supreme Court to re-allow bans on interracial marriage

The headline sums it up fairly well, really. Indiana Republican Sen. Mike Braun, for reference, and State's Rights!

What was amusing was to see Braun's attempts to back peddle on his statement.

Stacyhs · 23rd March 2022, 05:03 PM

Paul Manafort must be really stupid:

Quote:

Former Trump adviser Paul Manafort was removed from a plane at Miami International Airport before it took off for Dubai because he carried a revoked passport, officials said Wednesday.

Washington Post

bruto · 23rd March 2022, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Paul Manafort must be really stupid:

Washington Post

Of course one might consider anyone who advised Trump do do anything but jump off a high building to be stupid by definition, but one does wonder at this. I mean, this wasn't an expired passport, it was a revoked one, and although I've never experienced that, I am guessing that when your passport is revoked someone tells you. Then again, maybe it just never occurred to him that some people in government positions (such as the TSA Guy who checks your passport) actually do their jobs right.

The Great Zaganza · 23rd March 2022, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Paul Manafort must be really stupid:

Washington Post

Desperate and scared, more like.

bruto · 23rd March 2022, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Desperate and scared, more like.

Even desperate and scared,though, you have to admit trying to get on an international flight with a bum passport is pretty damned stupid.

I hear there are a few superyachts and the like not going much of anywhere special these days, and I'd have thought of all people Mr. Manafort would know whom to call for a ride.

The Great Zaganza · 23rd March 2022, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

Even desperate and scared,though, you have to admit trying to get on an international flight with a bum passport is pretty damned stupid.

I hear there are a few superyachts and the like not going much of anywhere special these days, and I'd have thought of all people Mr. Manafort would know whom to call for a ride.

my guess is that those people "had Manafort contacted", demanding that he use whatever connections he still has to Trump-GOP to get their money to safety - or else. Russian oligarchs lost a lot of money to Manafort with little ROI - and now they have even more to lose.
Manafort knows better than to accept an invitation to a Russian's yacht.

5th March 2022, 08:22 AM	#561
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,778	Originally Posted by Mike! Don't give them any ideas. WOLVERINES!
	__________________ Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein.

6th March 2022, 12:40 AM	#564
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,357	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Sounds much more like Trump's desired view (except for the prohibition against divorce) of the US and DeSantis is a Trump wannabe. And that paradise would (will???) be extolled by all the little Trumpers as "Great" and "free" because the right sort of people have their necks under the heel of the State.
	Last edited by Lurch; 6th March 2022 at 12:42 AM.

7th March 2022, 05:44 PM	#565
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,265	Originally Posted by varwoche A semi-regular occurrence of late. I've been both victim and perpetrator recently. On fast-moving threads, it's possible not only to miss something, but if you take time to edit, or get called away half-way through writing it, it could end up 20 posts further down than it started.
	__________________ Like many humorless and indignant people, he is hard on everybody but himself, and does not perceive it when he fails his own ideal (Molière) A pedant is a man who studies a vacuum through instruments that allow him to draw cross-sections of the details (John Ciardi)

8th March 2022, 08:55 AM	#566
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 53,813	Originally Posted by bruto I've been both victim and perpetrator recently. On fast-moving threads, it's possible not only to miss something, but if you take time to edit, or get called away half-way through writing it, it could end up 20 posts further down than it started. Happened a lot more in the early days of the forum, when there were sometimes a thousand or more members all on here at once.
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10th March 2022, 09:31 AM	#570
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 9,302	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Even Robert Regan's own daughter urges people NOT to vote for her father: Well that should make for some interesting family gatherings. Much like that pol from Colorado or thereabouts (name?) whose handful of adult siblings begged people not to elect him. The voters did anyway.
	__________________ ---------------------- Anything goes in the Goblin hut... anything. "Suggesting spurious explanations isn't relevant to my work." -- WTC Dust. "Both cannot be simultaneously true, and so one may conclude neither is true, and if neither is true, then Apollo is fraudulent." -- Patrick1000.

5th March 2022, 08:47 AM	#562
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43,373	Originally Posted by dudalb I make the occassnional joke about France's military record but this is just plain ignorance. Why? Vichy France was a puppet regime of traitors that collaborated with the Nazis. It seems Very appropriate comment to me.

5th March 2022, 04:41 PM	#563
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Quote: “I think the best term for them is authoritarian,” says historian Robert Paxton, the author of Vichy France: Old Guard and New Order, 1940-1944. “It doesn’t act like a fascist regime because traditionally elites have to give way, and in authoritarianism they retain power. But all the foreign Jews were put into camps, they cracked down on dissent, and it was in some ways increasingly a police state.” Pétain wanted to return to a more conservative mode of life, and to that end there were strong prohibitions against divorce, abortion was made a capital offense, the press was censored, phone calls were monitored and critics of the government were imprisoned. Sounds much more like Trump's desired view (except for the prohibition against divorce) of the US and DeSantis is a Trump wannabe.

9th March 2022, 03:48 AM	#567
Matthew Best Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Leicester Square, London Posts: 9,807	A Michigan Republican said he tells his daughters to “lie back and enjoy it” if rape is inevitable. Robert “RJ” Regan, who is running for a state House seat, made the comments on a Sunday Facebook livestream hosted by a conservative group. The Kent County candidate — who won a four-way special election to snag the Republican nomination for the seat last week — also recently said that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a “fake war just like the fake pandemic.” His comments came a year after he shared a series of anti-Semitic social media posts, according to The Times of Israel. https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/michig...is-inevitable/

9th March 2022, 04:48 PM	#568
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Originally Posted by Matthew Best A Michigan Republican said he tells his daughters to “lie back and enjoy it” if rape is inevitable. Robert “RJ” Regan, who is running for a state House seat, made the comments on a Sunday Facebook livestream hosted by a conservative group. The Kent County candidate — who won a four-way special election to snag the Republican nomination for the seat last week — also recently said that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a “fake war just like the fake pandemic.” His comments came a year after he shared a series of anti-Semitic social media posts, according to The Times of Israel. https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/michig...is-inevitable/ Well, after all, since the body has a way of preventing pregnancy in a rape, why not? He sounds like the perfect Republican candidate these days: misogynist, bigot, pro-Putin, Covid-19 denier, Rigged Election promoter, and a liar. After getting criticized for the 'rape' comment he attempted to do damage control by lying: "Regan told "Your Defending Fathers" the point of his rape comment was to demonstrate the grassroots of the GOP is "sick and tired of the establishment telling us, 'You just have to sit there and take it.'" "Just lie there and enjoy it," Regan said. "This is the way this is going to be. And I used the example: 'That would be like if I told my three daughters that rape is inevitable and you should just lie back and enjoy it.'" But that's not what he actually said which was: "Having three daughters, I tell my daughters, well, 'If rape is inevitable, you should just lie back and enjoy it. That's not how we roll. That's not how I won this election. We go right at it." There is no "like if" in that video statement. Quote: The condemnation preceded new revelations about Regan, including videos he posted online last year that featured Dr. Anthony Fauci next to a noose, suggesting COVID-19 vaccines were part of a planned government "genocide" and endorsing the widely debunked QAnon conspiracy theory. The Grand Rapids resident, who scored an upset win last week in a special primary election for the solidly Republican 74th District in west Michigan, has also called the Ukraine war a “fake war just like the fake pandemic” and shared a meme claiming that feminism is “a Jewish program to degrade and subjugate white men.” In other social media posts, Regan shared conspiracy theories claiming that Jewish people were behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and presidential assassinations [Lincoln and Kennedy] and control the banks as well as the media. Quote: Robert Regan, the GOP-backed nominee for a Michigan state House seat, used the right-wing video site Rumble to endorse the killings of President Joe Biden, Prime Ministers Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand and Boris Johnson of the United Kingdom, and Dr. Anthony Fauci, among others. Regan has also frequently shared right-wing media-fueled conspiracy theories on social media, including advising people to “study” and “apply” QAnon to their lives like they do with the Bible, and falsely claiming that Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman “staged” his famous face down with insurrectionists inside the Capitol on January 6. (https://www.mediamatters.org/qanon-c...uci-and-others) Really, Republicans? THIS is the best you can do? THIS is what you support? OuT of THREE OTHER GOP CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE?

9th March 2022, 04:49 PM	#569
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Even Robert Regan's own daughter urges people NOT to vote for her father: Quote: In the viral tweet, which has racked up more than 159,000 likes in the past two days, Stephanie Regan, the daughter of Republican state House candidate Robert Regan, writes, “If you’re in Michigan and 18+ pls for the love of god do not vote for my dad for state rep. Tell everyone.” In a pair of tweets the day after, Stephanie wrote that her father was Robert Regan and called on voters to research his campaign, writing: “I don’t feel safe rn sharing further information regarding his beliefs, but please look him up and just read for yourself.”

10th March 2022, 10:52 AM	#571
Regnad Kcin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The old Same place Posts: 10,787	Originally Posted by Jim_MDP Well that should make for some interesting family gatherings. Much like that pol from Colorado or thereabouts (name?) whose handful of adult siblings begged people not to elect him. The voters did anyway. Gosar of Arizona.
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10th March 2022, 11:09 AM	#572
ahhell Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5,176	Originally Posted by Jim_MDP Well that should make for some interesting family gatherings. Much like that pol from Colorado or thereabouts (name?) whose handful of adult siblings begged people not to elect him. The voters did anyway. I'm guessing they don't spend the holidays together. Originally Posted by Stacyhs Really, Republicans? THIS is the best you can do? THIS is what you support? OuT of THREE OTHER GOP CANDIDATES, THIS IS WHAT YOU CHOOSE? Keep in mind the crowded field is partially responsible for his victory. If you had 3 other candidates running and their all three bog standard republicans, the nuttiest candidate has a much better chance. There's other issues too, off course. Only the most motivated voters(read extreme) vote in primaries, etc. Edit, this race really highlights one of the big problems with US politics. He got about 33% of the vote from about 8000 people that showed up representing about 90k residents.
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10th March 2022, 11:57 AM	#573
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 9,302	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin Gosar of Arizona. Thanks. Don't know why I didn't think first of Arizona, except the Loony Sisters have me thinking of Colorado and Georgia every time I see a political headline.
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10th March 2022, 01:37 PM	#574
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Originally Posted by ahhell I'm guessing they don't spend the holidays together. Keep in mind the crowded field is partially responsible for his victory. If you had 3 other candidates running and their all three bog standard republicans, the nuttiest candidate has a much better chance. There's other issues too, off course. Only the most motivated voters(read extreme) vote in primaries, etc. Edit, this race really highlights one of the big problems with US politics. He got about 33% of the vote from about 8000 people that showed up representing about 90k residents. And yet you can bet he'll beat the Democrat because a misogynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, Pro-Putin, Covid 19 denying, nut case Republican is better than a sane Democrat. Sad.

10th March 2022, 03:22 PM	#575
ahhell Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 5,176	Originally Posted by Stacyhs And yet you can bet he'll beat the Democrat because a misogynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, Pro-Putin, Covid 19 denying, nut case Republican is better than a sane Democrat. Sad. Keep in mind, its a district of 90k people, somewhere around 70k of which aren't going to pay any attention to the election until less than a month before it happens. They won't know he's a misoynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, pro-putin, covid 19 denier. And they won't believe dems because dems have been saying most of that about every Republican that has run for office since the 80s.
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10th March 2022, 03:24 PM	#576
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Originally Posted by ahhell Keep in mind, its a district of 90k people, somewhere around 70k of which aren't going to pay any attention to the election until less than a month before it happens. They won't know he's a misoynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, pro-putin, covid 19 denier. And they won't believe dems because dems have been saying most of that about every Republican that has run for office since the 80s. More likely they'll think those are reasons TO vote for him.

10th March 2022, 08:46 PM	#577
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,236	Originally Posted by Stacyhs And yet you can bet he'll beat the Democrat because a misogynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, Pro-Putin, Covid 19 denying, nut case Republican is better than a sane Democrat. Sad. Originally Posted by ahhell Keep in mind, its a district of 90k people, somewhere around 70k of which aren't going to pay any attention to the election until less than a month before it happens. They won't know he's a misoynistic, bigoted, antisemitic, lying, pro-putin, covid 19 denier. And they won't believe dems because dems have been saying most of that about every Republican that has run for office since the 80s. Originally Posted by Stacyhs More likely they'll think those are reasons TO vote for him. Why don't the Dems get smart and put this POS on *their* ticket? Then he will get next to zero votes. Yes, another GOPer will probably win, but at least it won't be this waste-of-oxygen.
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11th March 2022, 12:03 AM	#578
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Why don't the Dems get smart and put this POS on *their* ticket? Then he will get next to zero votes. Yes, another GOPer will probably win, but at least it won't be this waste-of-oxygen. Because Dems wouldn't have a POS like him on their ticket?

12th March 2022, 07:25 PM	#579
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,558	Scholar of civil wars says that's where we're headed. Quote: I wish it were the case that by not talking about it we could prevent anything from happening. But the reality is, if we don’t talk about it, [violent extremists] are going to continue to organize, and they’re going to continue to train. There are definitely lots of groups on the far right who want war. They are preparing for war. And not talking about it does not make us safer. https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...-this-country/

13th March 2022, 12:13 PM	#580
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 53,813	Originally Posted by Bob001 Scholar of civil wars says that's where we're headed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...-this-country/ At age 64, I can no longer hope that it never happens, only that it happens after I'm dead.
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13th March 2022, 01:16 PM	#581
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,401	I can not only hope it doesn't happen, it seems to me the cult/army of Dump is not big enough to do anything more than guerrilla war sabotage. What can happen, unfortunately, if enough people don't come out to vote, is take over Congress.

13th March 2022, 02:02 PM	#582
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,558	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger I can not only hope it doesn't happen, it seems to me the cult/army of Dump is not big enough to do anything more than guerrilla war sabotage. .... That is what the writer is predicting, not a repeat of the Civil War. But a guerrilla war can do plenty of damage for a long time, especially with the support of a substantial percentage of the population, as seems likely. Quote: What we’re heading toward is an insurgency, which is a form of a civil war. That is the 21st-century version of a civil war, especially in countries with powerful governments and powerful militaries, which is what the United States is. And it makes sense. An insurgency tends to be much more decentralized, often fought by multiple groups. Sometimes they’re actually competing with each other. Sometimes they coordinate their behavior. They use unconventional tactics. They target infrastructure. They target civilians. They use domestic terror and guerrilla warfare. Hit-and-run raids and bombs. We’ve already seen this in other countries with powerful militaries, right? The IRA took on the British government. Hamas has taken on the Israeli government. These are two of the most powerful militaries in the world. And they fought for decades. And in the case of Hamas I think we could see a third intifada. And they pursue a similar strategy. https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...-this-country/ ETA: There's also this: Quote: REDDING, Calif. — The far right is rising in the ranchland of Northern California, using special elections and veiled intimidation to spread political influence across a historically conservative region of this deeply liberal state. The movement is rooted here in Shasta County and includes the support of a roughly decade-old militia. The gains it has achieved have come at the expense of moderate Republicans, who for generations fit the small-government, light-regulation ethic that guided political life here. No longer. The combination of California’s pandemic-prompted mask regulations and President Donald Trump’s reelection loss have fused together a conservative group of angry mothers, militia leaders and disaffected Republicans adrift in a blue state. Trumpists are voting out Trumpists. Veteran Republican politicians are seeing their terms cut short. https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...right-militia/
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17th March 2022, 01:41 PM	#583
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	In the latest idiocy emanating from Donnie T: Quote: In an email sent to supporters Thursday, Trump said the inflation "mess" in the United States would not be happening if Republican leadership took action on alleged election fraud in the presidential race in that state and elsewhere. The email was in response to the ongoing Wisconsin investigation into the state's results in the 2020 election. "Our country would not be in the mess it's in if Republicans had the courage to act," Trump wrote, referring to decertification of the election results in Wisconsin and other states. "We would be energy independent, no inflation, the Ukraine desecration would not be happening, our economy would be strong, there would have been no surrender in Afghanistan, and so much else." And everyone would have a magical, flying unicorn if Trump were president!

17th March 2022, 02:39 PM	#584
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 25,551	I heard that this time Mexico will pay for the wall!
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17th March 2022, 03:35 PM	#585
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	The cognitive dissonance in these Trump supporters is Yuuuuuge. They also have no idea they're being mocked. Not the brightest bulbs, are they? https://www.instagram.com/p/CbIkpuXMN1m/

17th March 2022, 07:39 PM	#586
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 53,813	Originally Posted by Stacyhs The cognitive dissonance in these Trump supporters is Yuuuuuge. They also have no idea they're being mocked. Not the brightest bulbs, are they? https://www.instagram.com/p/CbIkpuXMN1m/ If I hit my own head 100 times every day with a hammer, real hard, for a whole year, I'd still be smarter than any of these ******* morons.
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18th March 2022, 03:16 AM	#587
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,772	This might be somewhat relevant for this thread - Revealed: Texas threw out abnormally high number of votes in March primary Quote: Texas threw out mail votes at an abnormally high rate during the US’s first primary election of 2022, rejecting nearly 23,000 ballots outright under tougher voting rules that are part of a broad campaign by Republicans to reshape American elections, according to an analysis by the Associated Press. Roughly 13% of mail ballots returned in the 1 March primary were discarded and uncounted across 187 counties in Texas. While historical primary comparisons are lacking, the double-digit rejection rate would be far beyond what is typical in a general election, when experts say anything above 2% is usually cause for attention. <snip> In Texas, a state Donald Trump easily won although by a smaller margin than 2016, the trouble of navigating new rules was felt in counties big and small, red and blue. But the rejection rate was higher in counties that lean Democratic (15.1%) than Republican (9.1%). I'd say that that's waaaay more blatant than usual, but sadly unsurprising for the current GOP.
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18th March 2022, 11:26 AM	#588
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	The GOP is intent on stopping the election fraud that never happened. .

18th March 2022, 01:17 PM	#589
Ranb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 10,696	https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/polit...ent/index.html it seems that dialing back on your "bat-**** crazy" is grounds for losing Trump's support. I think that someday soon this might be a good thing even for the alt-right. Ranb

18th March 2022, 04:48 PM	#590
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 29,390	Originally Posted by Ranb https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/polit...ent/index.html it seems that dialing back on your "bat-**** crazy" is grounds for losing Trump's support. I think that someday soon this might be a good thing even for the alt-right. Ranb Of course it is. Trump demands unwavering and sycophantic loyalty from his cultist followers. But he gives none in return. Trump's a snake and everyone else is just the frog.

20th March 2022, 11:21 AM	#591
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,772	Note: This link is not verified news reporting, just what seems to be a sigh of relief. Iowa's "Let's make being a librarian illegal" bill dies during funnel week.
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21st March 2022, 04:37 PM	#592
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 53,813	Originally Posted by Stacyhs The GOP is intent on stopping the election fraud that never happened. . And creating their own!
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22nd March 2022, 08:25 PM	#593
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,772	This seems like it could have some relevance... Republican Senator calls for the Supreme Court to re-allow bans on interracial marriage The headline sums it up fairly well, really. Indiana Republican Sen. Mike Braun, for reference, and State's Rights!
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23rd March 2022, 02:41 PM	#594
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,357	If these "States' Rigbts" advocates would have their way, it would be even more of a Dis-United States of America that it already is. America really needs the kind of shock Ukraine is now enduring in order to make the "United" in its name have meaning again.

23rd March 2022, 03:28 PM	#595
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,778	Originally Posted by Aridas This seems like it could have some relevance... Republican Senator calls for the Supreme Court to re-allow bans on interracial marriage The headline sums it up fairly well, really. Indiana Republican Sen. Mike Braun, for reference, and State's Rights! What was amusing was to see Braun's attempts to back peddle on his statement.
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