ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags 2020 elections , George Conway , PACs , republican party , Rick Wilson , steve schmidt , The Lincoln Project

Reply
Old 4th August 2020, 11:46 AM   #161
Trebuchet
Penultimate Amazing
 
Trebuchet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Posts: 28,438
Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
How about you comment on the solutions provided?
I have a solution: Normal Saline! Which they'll be dripping into your elderly relatives' veins while they are dying alone on a ventilator.
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
The US currently ranks 10th in the world in deaths per million. Who, in your opinion, is to blame for that?
Obama, obviously. Trump has said as much. He didn't even provide a test for a virus that didn't exist!
__________________
Cum catapultae proscribeantur tum soli proscripti catapultas habeant.
Trebuchet is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th August 2020, 11:56 AM   #162
Safe-Keeper
Philosopher
 
Safe-Keeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 9,412
Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
There are words here, but no sense to them whatsoever.
I couldn't make him out over the noise of the goalpost being moved.
__________________
"He's like a drunk being given a sobriety test by the police after being pulled over. Just as a drunk can't walk a straight line, Trump can't think in a straight line. He's all over the place."--Stacyhs
"If you are still hung up on that whole words-have-meaning thing, then 2020 is going to be a long year for you." --Ladewig
Safe-Keeper is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th August 2020, 12:00 PM   #163
Dread Pirate Roberts
Thinker
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 142
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Absolutely. Conservatism is fear based: fear of change, fear of different, fear of others. That's a huge part of Trump's appeal to his base and why his message is so anti-immigrant, anti-China, anti-Democrat, etc. It's all these 'others' are out to get you.
Indeed. I often think how ****** it would be to live life like that. Hating every "other", ranting and raving about poor people being lazy and taking "your" money, convinced mask wearing is some government ploy to control you. But it obviously works for a lot of people, some of my relatives included...
Dread Pirate Roberts is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th August 2020, 12:15 PM   #164
Safe-Keeper
Philosopher
 
Safe-Keeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 9,412
Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
You should be dead-set in getting rid of Trump, too. It's people like you he harms.
It's pretty baffling. I pointed this out to Chris some time ago, but it bears repeating here.

That rally in Tulsa, for example, people died afterwards. His people, not pinko homo-loving soy boy libtards. Who gets killed by drinking bleach, or by listening to Trump when he tells them not to wear masks or socially distance? Remember, those who abhor him won't listen to him. So who does? Trump supporters.

It just baffles me that the US has gotten so polarized, and trumpkins are so, that they stand by their leader even when he literally gets them killed.

The whole 'kill someone on 5th Avenue' thing turned out to be entirely true. I didn't realise he could even kill his own and get away with it, with his victims standing loyally beside him.

It wouldn't kill Trump supporters to say 'I love Trump and/or what he's doing, but...' and stand up to him and demanded he take action against the pandemic. In fact it would have saved lives.

Contradicting or criticizing Dear Leader is just too big a sacrifice, I suppose .
__________________
"He's like a drunk being given a sobriety test by the police after being pulled over. Just as a drunk can't walk a straight line, Trump can't think in a straight line. He's all over the place."--Stacyhs
"If you are still hung up on that whole words-have-meaning thing, then 2020 is going to be a long year for you." --Ladewig
Safe-Keeper is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th August 2020, 12:38 PM   #165
acbytesla
Penultimate Amazing
 
acbytesla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 25,649
Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
It's pretty baffling. I pointed this out to Chris some time ago, but it bears repeating here.

That rally in Tulsa, for example, people died afterwards. His people, not pinko homo-loving soy boy libtards. Who gets killed by drinking bleach, or by listening to Trump when he tells them not to wear masks or socially distance? Remember, those who abhor him won't listen to him. So who does? Trump supporters.

It just baffles me that the US has gotten so polarized, and trumpkins are so, that they stand by their leader even when he literally gets them killed.

The whole 'kill someone on 5th Avenue' thing turned out to be entirely true. I didn't realise he could even kill his own and get away with it, with his victims standing loyally beside him.

It wouldn't kill Trump supporters to say 'I love Trump and/or what he's doing, but...' and stand up to him and demanded he take action against the pandemic. In fact it would have saved lives.

Contradicting or criticizing Dear Leader is just too big a sacrifice, I suppose .
I've been travelling a lot out West this summer. Mostly in rural areas and it stuns me watching these people. The smaller the town, the less dense the population,the greater the support for Trump and Republicans. I see Trump signs and Trump flags almost every where I go.

Everyone acts as if they not only can't catch the virus, but that the virus isn't real. Lots of these loggers and farners almost snicker when you put on a mask. This little town of Castle Rock held a Farmers market over the weekend and not one of the vendors wore a mask.
__________________
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get to me.
.
acbytesla is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 4th August 2020, 06:07 PM   #166
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
 
smartcooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Nelson, New Zealand
Posts: 14,911
Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Rocky's responses are as bad as Trump's. It's basically the whine, "why is everyone picking on me".
100%

Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
I'm actually happy about his attempt to derail. It allows us to point out Trump's failures in detail. It's not just as Rocky has said "Orange man bad". No it's about the importance of a timely response to a crisis.
Difficult to do when you are utterly incapable of even recognizing it is a crisis

Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
It's about listening to more knowledgeable and smarter people.
Difficult to do when you think you are smarter than everyone else, you think you know everything about everything, and you think you know more than anyone else does.

Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
It's about empathy for others.
Difficult to do when you are a malignant narcissist.

Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
It's about setting a positive example.
There aren't enough laughing dog memes to cover that one
__________________
"Woke" is a pejorative term used by racists, homophobes and misogynists to describe people who possess a fully functional moral compass.

If you don't like my posts, my opinions, or my directness then put me on your ignore list. This will be of benefit to both of us; you won't have to take umbrage at my posts, and I won't have to waste my time talking to you... simples! !
smartcooky is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 5th August 2020, 12:35 AM   #167
Squeegee Beckenheim
Penultimate Amazing
 
Squeegee Beckenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 29,435
Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
It's pretty baffling. I pointed this out to Chris some time ago, but it bears repeating here.

That rally in Tulsa, for example, people died afterwards. His people, not pinko homo-loving soy boy libtards. Who gets killed by drinking bleach, or by listening to Trump when he tells them not to wear masks or socially distance? Remember, those who abhor him won't listen to him. So who does? Trump supporters.

It just baffles me that the US has gotten so polarized, and trumpkins are so, that they stand by their leader even when he literally gets them killed.

The whole 'kill someone on 5th Avenue' thing turned out to be entirely true. I didn't realise he could even kill his own and get away with it, with his victims standing loyally beside him.

It wouldn't kill Trump supporters to say 'I love Trump and/or what he's doing, but...' and stand up to him and demanded he take action against the pandemic. In fact it would have saved lives.

Contradicting or criticizing Dear Leader is just too big a sacrifice, I suppose .
I've said something similar before - when people in and around the current administration say that some people will have to die to protect the economy, they're talking about people like rocky. They don't love you back. They don't care if you and your family die, just so long as they can make a profit off it.

And yet these self-same people love Trump unconditionally still.
__________________
I don't trust atoms. They make up everything.
Squeegee Beckenheim is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 5th August 2020, 09:06 PM   #168
Skeptic Ginger
Nasty Woman
 
Skeptic Ginger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 82,248
In the Axios interview, Trump claims the COVID rate in Oklahoma only went up after he was gone. No one got infected at or because of the rally.

In his mind and in the mind of the fantasy believers that are in his cult, that's pure truthyness.
__________________
ORANGE MAN BAD? Why yes, yes he is.

Privatize the profits and socialize the losses. It's the American way. That's how Mnuchin got rich. Worse, he did it on the backs of elderly people who had been conned into reverse mortgages. Mnuchin paid zero, took on the debt then taxpayers bailed him out.
Skeptic Ginger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 5th August 2020, 10:26 PM   #169
Bob001
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: US of A
Posts: 11,054
Another one:
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/05/pam...ct-ad_partner/
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:55 AM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.