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Old 18th November 2019, 10:12 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
It just occurred to me that "lisp" and "stutter" are difficult words to say for people who have those conditions.
Also "Rhoticism".
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I grew up in the North East of England and whilst by accent and pronunciation is probably a lot more neutral, I do tend to maximise the number of syllables in words (Mrs Don's pronunciation in brackets)

Library - Lie-bra-ree (Lie-bary)
February - Feb-roo-arry (Feb-ree)
Wednesday - Wed-ens-day (Whens-day)
Film - Fill-um (Moo-vee)

Maybe we just add those syllables to give us something to do on those long, cold winter's nights
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
I grew up in the North East of England and whilst by accent and pronunciation is probably a lot more neutral, I do tend to maximise the number of syllables in words (Mrs Don's pronunciation in brackets)

Library - Lie-bra-ree (Lie-bary)
February - Feb-roo-arry (Feb-ree)
Wednesday - Wed-ens-day (Whens-day)
Film - Fill-um (Moo-vee)

Maybe we just add those syllables to give us something to do on those long, cold winter's nights
From what I can tell you both pronounce them incorrectly .
Lie brairy
Feb ue airy
Wend's day
Film
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English is a wonderful language, perhaps some day they'll consider using it in England.
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When I was a kid, we would occasionally see a Jagwire on the street. You know, the British car brand named after a big cat of the western hemisphere.
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The Japanese language puts four syllables in the word "film" in Katakana.

fu-i-ru-mu

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%8...83%AB%E3%83%A0
Not sure how the special characters will appear on your device but it looks OK on mine.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
When I was a kid, we would occasionally see a Jagwire on the street. You know, the British car brand named after a big cat of the western hemisphere.

Unlike real live jaguars the Brit version was easy to track and catch. You just started at the dealership and followed the oil leaks until you got to where the clutch had given out.

Sometimes as much as entire blocks away.
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Unlike real live jaguars the Brit version was easy to track and catch. You just started at the dealership and followed the oil leaks until you got to where the clutch had given out.

Sometimes as much as entire blocks away.
As it happens, I saw one dead on the roadside just yesterday! From the Ford era, I believe.
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
The Japanese language puts four syllables in the word "film" in Katakana.

fu-i-ru-mu

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%8...83%AB%E3%83%A0
Not sure how the special characters will appear on your device but it looks OK on mine.
That's because Japanese doesn't have a /l/, and because Katakana is a syllabary where each character represents either a single vowel, or a consonant and a vowel. Or a single consonant that we in English render with two letters, like /sh/ and /th/, and a vowel.

That's why Japanese is so easy to pronounce. It's pronounced exactly as it as written.

ETA: The /i/ character is smaller than the others, which means it modifies the previous character from /fu/ to /fi/. There is no single character for /fu/. So it's actually a little more complex than I said it would be. The word is pronounced fi-ru-mu.

ETAA: The /f/ sound as we use it doesn't strictly exist in Japanese either. The character for /fu/ appears on the /h/ line and is pronounced without a strong fricative sound as we would use it.

Japanese writing is fascinating.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
That's because Japanese doesn't have a /l/, and because Katakana is a syllabary where each character represents either a single vowel, or a consonant and a vowel. Or a single consonant that we in English render with two letters, like /sh/ and /th/, and a vowel.

That's why Japanese is so easy to pronounce. It's pronounced exactly as it as written.

ETA: The /i/ character is smaller than the others, which means it modifies the previous character from /fu/ to /fi/. There is no single character for /fu/. So it's actually a little more complex than I said it would be. The word is pronounced fi-ru-mu.

ETAA: The /f/ sound as we use it doesn't strictly exist in Japanese either. The character for /fu/ appears on the /h/ line and is pronounced without a strong fricative sound as we would use it.

Japanese writing is fascinating.
I bet the Japanese real hate the word 'FujiFilm'.
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