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Old 24th January 2021, 02:07 PM   #1001
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Some HCQ numbers from https://hcqmeta.com


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HCQ is effective for COVID-19. The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive as the 195 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 1 quadrillion (p = 0.0000000000000009).

•Early treatment is most successful, with 100% of studies reporting a positive effect and an estimated reduction of 67% in the effect measured (death, hospitalization, etc.) using a random effects meta-analysis, RR 0.33 [0.25-0.43].

•91% of Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early, PrEP, or PEP treatment report positive effects, the probability of this happening for an ineffective treatment is 0.0059.

•There is evidence of bias towards publishing negative results. 88% of prospective studies report positive effects, and only 75% of retrospective studies do.

•Studies from North America are 4.0 times more likely to report negative results than studies from the rest of the world combined, p = 0.00000005.

Show forest plot for:
All studies
Mortality results
With exclusions
RCTs

Total 195 studies 3,074 authors 166,999 patients
Positive effects 152 studies 2,394 authors 123,307 patients
Early treatment 67% improvement RR 0.33 [0.25-0.43]
Late treatment 25% improvement RR 0.75 [0.69-0.81]


https://hcqmeta.com
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Old 24th January 2021, 02:17 PM   #1002
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Originally Posted by W.H.O
Current data shows that this drug does not reduce deaths among hospitalised COVID-19 patients, nor help people with moderate disease.
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Fauci, et al.
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Old 24th January 2021, 02:18 PM   #1003
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So the best he can come up with a boring fringe reset... (yawn)
Yes.
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Old 24th January 2021, 02:46 PM   #1004
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Dont forget

Its not a vaccine.

The biological agent (synthetic pathogen) wrongly termed a vaccine is not proven to stop the transmission of covid...not even tested for that, among other things
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Old 24th January 2021, 02:49 PM   #1005
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Dont forget

Its not a vaccine.

The biological agent (synthetic pathogen) wrongly termed a vaccine is not proven to stop the transmission of covid...not even tested for that, among other things
Amazing, every word of what you said was wrong.
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Old 24th January 2021, 02:52 PM   #1006
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Survival rates for people not taking HCQ

Survival rates for covid positive people that did not take HCQ before or after testing positive...


Under age 20: 99.997%

age 20-49: 99.98@

age 50-69: 99.5%

age over 70yrs: 95%
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Old 24th January 2021, 02:56 PM   #1007
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Surgeon General Jerome Adams says people still need to wear masks and socially distance after they've been vaccinated because it doesn't prevent infection

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-vaccine.html



Surgeon General says you can still pass on COVID after getting vaccine

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ne/ar-BB1bUUgA

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Old 24th January 2021, 03:03 PM   #1008
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HCQ dead-ender doesn't understand:
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HQC has never been shown to be effective in treating COVID-19 in blinded placebo-controlled studies.
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Old 24th January 2021, 03:03 PM   #1009
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
Amazing, every word of what you said was wrong.

Why it is technically not a vaccine:


https://www.brighteon.com/8e0a4594-f...1-f1e672c808e8

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Old 24th January 2021, 03:17 PM   #1010
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HQC has never been shown to be effective in treating COVID-19 in blinded placebo-controlled studies.


True....

As intended, the fraudulent and lethal (overdoses) HCQ studies published and retracted by Lancet killed the HCQ testing last year.


HCQ is cheap, safe, and proven effective in 150 studies.


https://www.bitchute.com/video/gN7De...LuSnkKqX8a-WK8


Until we have gold standard studies, dont you think thousands of doctors agreeing, and positive odds of one in six trillion will suffice for allowing people to access a cheap medicine proven safe over 75 years of weekly use for Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis....?
In tropical countries they take it all the time...no problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVF2...ature=emb_logo

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Old 24th January 2021, 03:34 PM   #1011
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
True....
Yes.

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HCQ is cheap, safe, and proven effective in 150 studies.
For treatment of malaria.


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Until we have gold standard studies, dont you think thousands of doctors agreeing . . .
Doctors aren't researchers as such. As soon as we apply properly controlled, placebo-controlled, gold-standard testing to HCQ as a treatment for COVID-19, and it is shown to be safe and effective, that is when we can rationally and reasonably claim such, not before, no matter what some doctors are saying, nor how many are saying it.

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Old 24th January 2021, 03:38 PM   #1012
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for malaria
Wrong.
HCQ is cheap, safe, and proven effective in 150 studies of Covid patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVF2...ature=emb_logo
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Old 24th January 2021, 03:41 PM   #1013
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Wrong.
HCQ is cheap, safe, and proven effective in 150 studies of Covid patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVF2...ature=emb_logo
Not wrong; YouTube video rejected. Peer-reviewed study published in a bona fide, respected medical journal required.

Also this:
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. . . properly controlled, placebo-controlled, gold-standard testing
When you have that, let us know.

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Old 24th January 2021, 04:04 PM   #1014
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Not wrong; YouTube video rejected. Peer-reviewed study published in a bona fide, respected medical journal required.

Also this:

When you have that, let us know.


Meanwhile, wiser doctors save lives with harmless cheap HCQ, and people who take it regularly in tropics suffer les with covid.

Who benefits by suppressing it?
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Old 24th January 2021, 04:17 PM   #1015
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Meanwhile . . .
We wait until it's been shown to be safe and effective.

As to anyone "surpressing" it, conspiracies are not evidence. They are claims, so yeah, CANE again.

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. . . wiser doctors save lives with harmless cheap HCQ, and people who take it regularly in tropics suffer les with covid.
Also CANE.

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Old 24th January 2021, 04:19 PM   #1016
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Meanwhile, wiser doctors save lives with harmless cheap HCQ, and people who take it regularly in tropics suffer les with covid.

Who benefits by suppressing it?
If hydroxychloroquine worked the way you think it does, then it would be used as a standard treatment. It's not, though, because it didn't prove to be effective in trials.

Didn't conspiracists make up some weird guff about why it was being suppressed? Oh, microchips in the vaccines I think it was. It's hard to keep track of all that nutty stuff.
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Old 24th January 2021, 04:20 PM   #1017
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Why it is technically not a vaccine:


https://www.brighteon.com/8e0a4594-f...1-f1e672c808e8
Kooks try to kooksplain. With special guest star fraudulent researcher Judy Plandemic Mikovits.

Again. Every word of what you said was wrong.
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Old 24th January 2021, 04:21 PM   #1018
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If hydroxychloroquine worked the way you think it does, then it would be used as a standard treatment. It's not, though, because it didn't prove to be effective in trials.

Didn't conspiracists make up some weird guff about why it was being suppressed? Oh, microchips in the vaccines I think it was. It's hard to keep track of all that nutty stuff.
It's all just sickening crap, causing confusion amidst a pandemic, making things worse.
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Old 24th January 2021, 05:01 PM   #1019
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Suppression?

NBC: Dr. Anthony Fauci says he feels liberated to speak freely about science, risk of Covid under Biden

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"It was very clear that there were things said, be it regarding things like*hydroxychloroquine*and other things like that, that really was uncomfortable because they were not based in scientific fact," Fauci told reporters, speaking about the Trump administration.

"The idea that you can get up and talk about what you know, what the evidence is, what the science is," Fauci continued, "it is somewhat of a liberating feeling."
It was the truth that got suppressed by powerful people abusing their positions.

As usual, CTer is totally blind to the actual corruption and subversion they supposedly dislike so much.
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Forget hydroxychloroquine; injecting bleach into your body is the way to fight Covid. Amazed Bubba , in his devotion to Dear Leader, has not pointed that out.
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As feared, the Anit Vaxxers are really going to town on Hank Aaron's death.
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Old 24th January 2021, 05:19 PM   #1022
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Wrong.
HCQ is cheap, safe, and proven effective in 150 studies of Covid patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVF2...ature=emb_logo
Bubba? Didn't you notice no one has put their name to this silly old you tube conspiracy video?

This is funnier then Sidney Powell's last court submission, where no one actually signed the submission document, as no one wanted to be prosecuted for presenting false evidence

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Old 24th January 2021, 05:45 PM   #1023
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Bubba? Didn't you notice no one has put their name to this silly old you tube conspiracy video?

This is funnier then Sidney Powell's last court submission, where no one actually signed the submission document, as no one wanted to be prosecuted for presenting false evidence

Blindly defending anything Dear Leader says is a basic duty of any cult member...
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Old 24th January 2021, 05:52 PM   #1024
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Meanwhile, wiser doctors save lives with harmless cheap HCQ, and people who take it regularly in tropics suffer les with covid.

Who benefits by suppressing it?
Who benefits by opposing the push to use it nigh universally on the basis of quite untrustworthy claims? Here's a simple answer. All the people who were actually prescribed it as an actual treatment for things that it's actually been proven to be effective to treat. The hype meant that those people literally were unable to get the medicine that they demonstrably needed.
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Old 24th January 2021, 06:04 PM   #1025
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Forget hydroxychloroquine; injecting bleach into your body is the way to fight Covid. Amazed Bubba , in his devotion to Dear Leader, has not pointed that out.

Wrong

It was Ultra-Violet Light "Injectable Disinfectant" by AYTU Heal Light then being studied for covid at Cedars Sinai when the media lied to you about it in order to smear Trump, as usual. They always lie to you. Fire them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSOMqq-sSc
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We don't need a retrospective recap of every dumb thing you parroted in 2020.
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Wrong
Yoooo hooo Bubba!

Who produced the you tube video, that you posted and claimed is "scientific evidence" supporting hydroxychloroquine?

Was it a scientist or just another Qanon nutcase pretending to be a scientist?

What's the scientist's name?

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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Wrong

It was Ultra-Violet Light "Injectable Disinfectant" by AYTU Heal Light then being studied for covid at Cedars Sinai when the media lied to you about it in order to smear Trump, as usual. They always lie to you. Fire them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSOMqq-sSc
It was distinctly not.
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It was distinctly not.
Nope. Reset, recycled, debunked fringe claim.


Here's what disgraced former President ***** -His-Pants actually said.

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He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

He didn't specify the kind of disinfectant.


No mention of light therapy in any way, shape or form, by AYTU Heal Light or any other light. Disinfectant is what he said.

ETA: The next day, ***** -his-pants said he was being sarcastic, not that he meant light therapy or whatever nonsense his apologists claim. It's as plain as day.

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Wrong

It was Ultra-Violet Light "Injectable Disinfectant" by AYTU Heal Light then being studied for covid at Cedars Sinai when the media lied to you about it in order to smear Trump, as usual. They always lie to you. Fire them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTSOMqq-sSc
That was hilariously dumb the first time it was pushed as an attempted re-writing of reality on multiple levels. It's not gotten better since then. What's more, citing Lou Dobbs is plenty hilariously dumb on top of that.
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We wait until it's been shown to be safe

For 75 years it known to be safe. Lupus patients take it weekly....no problem.

Over a thousand doctors, and 150 studies worldwide say it is effective for covid.

Would you take it for covid if you had no other medicine ?
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Over a thousand doctors, and 150 studies worldwide say it is effective for covid.
CANE. Claims are not evidence. Ever.


HQC has never been shown effective against COVID-19 in a placebo-controlled study. Period.

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Current data shows that this drug (HCQ) does not reduce deaths among hospitalised COVID-19 patients, nor help people with moderate disease.
When it has, come back and show us. Right now, researchers are doing science, not telling stories, engaging in hearsay, falling for CTs or using ouija boards. Recycle plastics and aluminum and stuff, not CTs.

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NVM

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For 75 years it known to be safe.
....for curing Malaria Bubba. Malaria is plasmodium parasite and not a virus.

Drinking water has also been safe to drink for the 500,000 years of animal evolution, but that doesn't mean water will cure covid-19, does it?
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......and 150 studies worldwide say it is effective for covid.
Bubba? Your little you tube video doesn't list any authors or scientists.

How do we know you just didn't make it yourself? You have been caught continuously lying, remember?

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If hydroxychloroquine worked the way you think it does, then it would be used as a standard treatment. It's not, though, because it didn't prove to be effective in trials.

Didn't conspiracists make up some weird guff about why it was being suppressed? Oh, microchips in the vaccines I think it was. It's hard to keep track of all that nutty stuff.


It cost about $5 per week.
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Didn't conspiracists make up some weird guff about why it was being suppressed? Oh, microchips in the vaccines I think it was. It's hard to keep track of all that nutty stuff.
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It cost about $5 per week.
CT horse **** of the vilest kind.

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Years ago Fauci's NIH found HCQ effective against corona.

Now he is in the vaccine business. Look it up

Follow the money.

HCQ costs $5
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Years ago Fauci's NIH found HCQ effective against corona.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Cement-headed CT horse ****.
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Years ago Fauci's NIH found HCQ effective against corona. Now he is in the vaccine business. Look it up
We did. You are lying again as per usual. Why do all you ex-Qanon cult members tell so many lies?

Dr. Anthony Fauci said that all the “valid” scientific data shows hydroxychloroquine isn’t effective in treating Covid-19.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/dr-f...ronavirus.html



Q-Anon followers caught again spreading lies about Dr Fauci and hydroxychloroquine
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