Sexual misconduct allegations against Radford, Shermer, et al. Part 2 - Page 62

Bob001 · 3rd December 2018, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

I once asked a female friend if I could see her (full) back tattoo, which is an amazingly artistic take on the evolutionary tree of life from protozoans to animals. She proudly displayed it, and now I can only hope this encounter doesn't come back to bite me.

You better be nice to her, just in case.

Bob001 · 3rd December 2018, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

The photo corroborates Tyson's account.
I fail to see evidence of groping which one would think involved more than one's collar bone.

By her own account, he did what? Lifted the top of her sleeve? In front of other people, including somebody with a camera? After they posed together in mutual embrace? Seems like that kinda devalues complaints of real harassment and assault.

Skeptic Ginger · 3rd December 2018, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

I once asked a female friend if I could see her (full) back tattoo, which is an amazingly artistic take on the evolutionary tree of life from protozoans to animals. She proudly displayed it, and now I can only hope this encounter doesn't come back to bite me.

I'll stick up for you if it does.

Skeptic Ginger · 3rd December 2018, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

By her own account, he did what? Lifted the top of her sleeve? In front of other people, including somebody with a camera? After they posed together in mutual embrace? Seems like that kinda devalues complaints of real harassment and assault.

It does. When you bring that up some people start claiming double standard.

I didn't think Franken should have resigned.

kellyb · 3rd December 2018, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

It does. When you bring that up some people start claiming double standard.

I didn't think Franken should have resigned.

I have no opinion on if Franken should have resigned or not, but I do think he was engaging in inappropriate behavior, whereas NDT's "incident" with tattoo lady was probably completely innocent, as far as I can tell.

dann · 4th December 2018, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

I didn't think Franken should have resigned.

Neither do I. And neither did Leeann Tweeden, apparently:

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I wonder if the guitar player considered suing her:

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d4m10n · 4th December 2018, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by kellyb

I have no opinion on if Franken should have resigned or not, but I do think he was engaging in inappropriate behavior, whereas NDT's "incident" with tattoo lady was probably completely innocent, as far as I can tell.

Unless NDT is a known scapula & clavicle fetishist, ofc.

d4m10n · 4th December 2018, 07:25 PM

Mainstream write-ups:

https://slate.com/technology/2018/12...-response.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...oto-op/577273/

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/67264...ual-harassment

3rd December 2018, 10:32 PM	#2441
Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,079	Originally Posted by d4m10n I once asked a female friend if I could see her (full) back tattoo, which is an amazingly artistic take on the evolutionary tree of life from protozoans to animals. She proudly displayed it, and now I can only hope this encounter doesn't come back to bite me. You better be nice to her, just in case.
Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,079

3rd December 2018, 10:35 PM	#2442
Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,079	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger The photo corroborates Tyson's account. I fail to see evidence of groping which one would think involved more than one's collar bone. By her own account, he did what? Lifted the top of her sleeve? In front of other people, including somebody with a camera? After they posed together in mutual embrace? Seems like that kinda devalues complaints of real harassment and assault.
Bob001 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,079

3rd December 2018, 10:58 PM	#2443
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 70,441	Originally Posted by d4m10n I once asked a female friend if I could see her (full) back tattoo, which is an amazingly artistic take on the evolutionary tree of life from protozoans to animals. She proudly displayed it, and now I can only hope this encounter doesn't come back to bite me. I'll stick up for you if it does.
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3rd December 2018, 11:00 PM	#2444
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 70,441	Originally Posted by Bob001 By her own account, he did what? Lifted the top of her sleeve? In front of other people, including somebody with a camera? After they posed together in mutual embrace? Seems like that kinda devalues complaints of real harassment and assault. It does. When you bring that up some people start claiming double standard. I didn't think Franken should have resigned.
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3rd December 2018, 11:11 PM	#2445
kellyb Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,544	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger It does. When you bring that up some people start claiming double standard. I didn't think Franken should have resigned. I have no opinion on if Franken should have resigned or not, but I do think he was engaging in inappropriate behavior, whereas NDT's "incident" with tattoo lady was probably completely innocent, as far as I can tell.
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4th December 2018, 05:15 AM	#2447
d4m10n Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 3,585	Originally Posted by kellyb I have no opinion on if Franken should have resigned or not, but I do think he was engaging in inappropriate behavior, whereas NDT's "incident" with tattoo lady was probably completely innocent, as far as I can tell. Unless NDT is a known scapula & clavicle fetishist, ofc.
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4th December 2018, 07:25 PM	#2448
d4m10n Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 3,585	Mainstream write-ups: https://slate.com/technology/2018/12...-response.html https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...oto-op/577273/ https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/67264...ual-harassment
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