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1st December 2017, 12:42 AM | #121 |
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Evolution in action.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42103058 Discovery of DNA and consequent genetics was a 'prediction' of Wallace's theory of speciation by evolution. How inheritance happened was unknown when Wallace wrote his paper on evolution. Subsequent experiments showed genetics happened in the way required for evolution to occur. The null hypothesis was the then current idea that parental characteristics mingled. |
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Don't fall into Daniel's trap, Planigale.
You'll get invited to link to the actual scientific theory of evolution, as though there is one single paper covering it. There are tens of thousands of papers, of course, but if you link to one of them, it'll be dismissed as not being THE one. It's a really tedious game, played only to piss people off thoroughly, by young earth creationists who don't understand any science at all, and won't accept anything other than goddidit. |
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Does anybody have some thoughts about how to determine if somebody really believes the Earth is flat?
There is no doubt that widespread conspiracy theories have at least some people faking belief in the theory as a sort of a goof or even for cynical self serving reasons like with regard to birtherism. But it seems like a lot of "flat earth believers" may not be actual flat earth believers. I don't want to even come close to violating any JREF rules but if Daniel would allow people to express their ideas about whether Daniel is a true believer flat Earther or not I'd like to hear what they are. |
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But what keeps the sea from flowing away? Liquids have to be kept in a container! All those pictures of the sea must be fake because it must really be under glass.
I wonder why atmospheric pressure falls with altitude? Why climbers need oxygen and water boils at a lower temperature? |
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Has there been a response from flat earther's to Neil Degrasse Tyson's tweet?
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/934906611088359426 In preparing for this question I took a look at what flat Earther theory has to say about eclipses. I only found a video about solar eclipses. The explanation there seems to be that the sun rotates around the flat earth above the plane that the moon is in. Periodically the moon gets between the sun and the Earth and blocks the the sun's light from reaching earth. How are Lunar eclipses explained if the flat earth solar eclipse theory is correct? What blocks the sunlight from reaching the moon during a lunar eclipse if the sun is in a plane above the moon? |
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Earth is obviously flat. I found this original source image from apollo before they cgi'd it!
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Isn't there a ridge around the edge to keep the oceans from draining? Maybe it's low enough that you can't see it in the image you posted? I hope the earth around the edge is very stable and strong. I'd hate to see the oceans drain because of a break in the earth's outer ring due to an earthquake or a meteor strike. Ugh, one more thing to worry about.
I wonder when you're near the periphery if gravity changes direction because there's no earth to pull you from outside the earth. |
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Thanks, that explains a lot. If there's a break in the wall caused by an earthquake or other event the water that flows into the edge area would just refreeze. No harm no foul. And of course if you've just caused a giant flood that has covered the earth and killed almost everybody on it, the ice wall can be defrosted in a few places for awhile to drain the excess water. Maybe that's what happened to the unicorns. They just got washed over the edge after they fell overboard.
As to the going east or west when you're on the equator you'll eventually come to an ice wall: I didn't know that, thanks again. As to gravity doesn't exist either. Obviously: Yes, obviously |
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You're making the mistake of looking at this the right way round. Conspiracy theorists don't reason from premises to conclusions; they start with conclusions, reason back to the premises required to support those conclusions, then insist that these premises are reasonable and correct. If you bend over backwards and stick your head up your arse, all the reasoning starts to make more sense.
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Yep.....penguins on the equator. You heard it here first.
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Well they seem to be just made of money. I tried to figure out how many people they're paying off and how much money they would have to spend keeping an eye on the edge, but almost immediately it was essentially all the money in the world. This conspiracy is not just the largest employer on Earth, it's bigger than all the others combined. Honestly at this point I'm not sure why
It gets paid off and becomes part of the conspiracy? I want to know what that very first guy was thinking. "Well, Ive determined the shape of the Earth. Hmm. You know what? I'm going to dedicate my life to convincing everyone it's actually a sphere, just for laughs. I'm going to need to start a discwide - no, "global", hah! - conspiracy to trick everyone and make up all sorts of internally consistent science and patrol the edge even though it's unbelieveably massive and... man this is a lot of work for no real payoff. Better get started!" I think about that a lot. There are so many people that are just trolling, and it's such a crazy theory that it's hard to tell even the unsophisticated trolls from the real thing. There's just nothing a troll could say where I would be tipped off because the true believers will say ANYTHING. I think. I mean, it's possible I've never encountered a true believer and they're ALL trolls. The world is accelerating upwards, so the air and water gets squished down in the same way that you get squished back into your seat when the driver suddenly speeds up. The air would flow off the edge, but we're in a dome. You'd think with all this accelleration (which has been going on for at least 6,000 years if you're a Young Flat Earth Creationist) we would be going some insane speed but whatever is causing it seems to have no intention of slowing. Man, I hope it doesn't abruptly hit the brakes or we'll all slam into the dome. Well... depending on the map, the equator is a circle. So East/West yes, but equator no. Or... should we just say 'rimwards'? Does East or West mean anything on a Flat Earth? Where's the South pole? I really wish they'd make a map they could all agree on, but of course they can't have one that could be tested. |
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Behold the flat Earth wiki: https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Flat_Earth_Wiki
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Thanks!! You have Absolutely "No Clue" to what you're talking about... "ESSM (RIM 162) offers naval combatants reliable self-defence and high fire-power. The missile can be launched from surface ships to destroy threats that include high speed, highly maneuvering anti-ship cruise missiles, low velocity air threats (LVATs), high-diving threats and SURFACE-BASED TARGETS. It can also engage attack aircraft, helicopters and SHIPS." http://www.naval-technology.com/proj...-missile-essm/ regards |
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That is not an ad hom fallacy, and it was in fact cut and pasted from that forum.
Heck you don't even have to be standing on the top of Everest to see that far. You know, Everest where you said that the horizon is much further away, which is due to the fact the Earth is not flat? |
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Thanks!! You also have absolutely NO Clue to what you're talking about... "ESSM (RIM 162) offers naval combatants reliable self-defence and high fire-power. The missile can be launched from surface ships to destroy threats that include high speed, highly maneuvering anti-ship cruise missiles, low velocity air threats (LVATs), high-diving threats and SURFACE-BASED TARGETS. It can also engage attack aircraft, helicopters and SHIPS." http://www.naval-technology.com/proj...-missile-essm/
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1. The Moon
2. Ships and the horizon 3. Varying star constellations 4. Shadows and sticks 5. Seeing farther from higher 6. Ride a plane 7. Look at other planets 8. The existence of time zones 9. The pull of gravity 10. Images from space https://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-c...earth-is-round |
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And it would be against, for example, "high-diving threats," "attack aircraft" and "helicopters" that its maximum range would be of use and practically achievable; alternatively, using a stand-off aircraft to paint the target would allow over-the-horizon use. But you've already had it explained to you that it was originally a repurposed air-to-air missile that inherited the effective range of the original; clearly it's only the difficulty of cultivating a sufficiently plausible level of feigned misunderstanding that prevents you from replying to that. Do you have any associates who can assist with your scriptwriting? I think some aspects of your character and dialogue need external input.
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He was not doing that, he was simply pointing out the source, and in any event, challenging the credibility of one's claims is not fallacious.
Which is something someone can see from the top of Mount Everest which at 29,029 Feet, the Horizon is at 208 Miles because the Earth is not flat. |
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"NASA successfully launched its football-stadium-sized, heavy-lift super pressure balloon (SPB) from Wanaka, New Zealand, at 10:50 a.m. Tuesday, April 25 (6:50 p.m. April 24 in U.S. Eastern Time), on a mission designed to run 100 or more days floating at 110,000 feet (33.5 km) about the globe in the southern hemisphere's mid-latitude band."
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I have. Do you have a coherent rebuttal by chance?
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It drops. What's next, Hit the Gas in your car...what happens to the Speedometer?
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So another "Na'ahh" defense? Riveting!! You wouldn't happen to be Pre-Law by chance?
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Excellent! Now you have just rebutted your earlier claim that the pressure of the atmosphere is dependent on its "container".
Just like you rebutted your claim that the earth is flat by reference to the horizon at Everest. And citing to papers mentioning the globe and hemispheres. |
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Not an ad hom, merely pointing out how lazy you are by not posting anything original here. There are rules about that sort of thing, in addition to it being common courtesy.
I'm still waiting for for a coherent and substantive argument/response to the posts made in rebutting your ludicrous 'all CGI' claim. Seems to me that you recycling nonsense that you post elsewhere (including an article that discusses over the horizon radar ) coincided very conveniently with posts that proved your CGI claims to be nonsense. |
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