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Old 14th February 2016, 12:05 AM   #601
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
I questioned the point of the re-build after the 2011 quake - it's going to keep happening and I imagine insurance will be prohibitive, if you can even get it.

I feel sorry for the poor bastards who can't move away - I'd have been out of there years ago.

Pretty impressive that entire cliff falling off.
My old home territory.

She will be sweet.

Look at Napier
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You have to feel for Little after he'd just said the school with dodgey boulders should stay open.

Timing

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My old home territory.

She will be sweet.

Look at Napier
Napier had one earthquake, Chch is now up to 3 and I see GNS has said their chances of another big one have now increased.

Why would insurers cover them?
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For the uninitiated: why NZ is a little bit different to other places on the planet.

1 Things that are crimes elsewhere - and serious crimes at that - are often not even seen as crimes here. Assaulting a Cabinet Minister, for instance.

2 As prostitution is legal, brothels and charities can work together, with a brothel holding an open day to help a kids' charity in Hawera.

3 We're so protective of international visitors that we won't allow actual New Zealanders anywhere near them, with Kiwis not even allowed to stay in lodges in their own country.

4 Our Prime Minister goes around pulling girls' ponytails.

5 The whole country is a toilet!
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McAwe NZer of the year.

Not sure about that
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
McAwe NZer of the year.

Not sure about that
Surely should be New Zealander of the Millenium, right?
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Originally Posted by Damien Evans View Post
Surely should be New Zealander of the Millenium, right?
Lol

True
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You know, some Kiwis still wonder why the world thinks we have rugby and nowt else.

Wonder no more.
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Old 19th February 2016, 04:33 AM   #609
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You know, some Kiwis still wonder why the world thinks we have rugby and nowt else.

Wonder no more.
Some of us remember Sir Edmund and Lord Rutherford.

ETA: Oh, and the bearer of the second best nose in cricket, Sir Richard Hadlee. Best nose of course going to William Morris Lawry.
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Aside from Dame Kiri, Sir Ed and Richie (peace be upon him), there are no other famous kiwis, are there?
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Old 19th February 2016, 12:29 PM   #611
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Some of us remember Sir Edmund and Lord Rutherford.
Jesus, you're a lot older than I thought; Rutherford died in 1937!

Originally Posted by Damien Evans View Post
ETA: Oh, and the bearer of the second best nose in cricket, Sir Richard Hadlee. Best nose of course going to William Morris Lawry.
Only the second bowler ever to be knighted!*

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Aside from Dame Kiri, Sir Ed and Richie (peace be upon him), there are no other famous kiwis, are there?
We have had a couple, and I refuse to count that stupid Kiri te Kanawa cow because she's a lying bitch and as far as I'm aware, her singing skills are ordinary compared to the great divas.

We have three former world mile record-holders, a former head of Jet Propulsion Lab, many other scientists whose Kiwiness has been ignored by many - including two other Nobel winners, a world-class, pioneering heart surgeon, an F1 world champ, Phar Lap, and architect of modern social welfare, Michael Joseph Savage, who was funnily enough born in Australia.

It's often said NZ boxes above its weight internationally, and I think the facts back it up. For a very small country (127th by population), we have a fine record of producing champion blokes and sheilas and not crowing about it. (barring rugby players, and I don't count them anyway)




*Francis Drake was the first.
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Aside from Dame Kiri, Sir Ed and Richie (peace be upon him), there are no other famous kiwis, are there?
There is the geezer who played a gladiator we say is Australian and Peter Jackson, but get your point
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Some people say Jesus was actually born in Kaiapoi
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Some people say Jesus was actually born in Kaiapoi
Lotta sheep down that way.

Anyway, Brian Tamaki is Jesus.
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Some people say Jesus was actually born in Kaiapoi
He's Welsh mate. His dad was born in Cardiff, Leckwith, I think, he was born in Llanrumney.
Single parent mum, his dad, 'Dai the chippie' was in prison for taking the drawers off a 'tallboy'.

I've got photos from the 70's to prove it too.
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Is that why he was always singing?
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Richie McCaw backs flag change is a headline on Yahoo.

What does Lydia Ko think?

Hint, what she has done as a New Zealander that never swung a golf club in Korea aint all bad.
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I have just calculated that my chance of dying in venture tourism is zero. So I must be the most boring New Zealander in New Zealand.
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I have just calculated that my chance of dying in venture tourism is zero. So I must be the most boring New Zealander in New Zealand.
I'd love to know how our tourist death statistics look. There are certainly a good number of disastrous car crashes being caused by tourists and they are clearly seven times more likely to kill someone else than a local driver.

The pair of German chicks killed yesterday wasn't their fault! Our roads are death traps.

On the flip side, there seem to be a hell of a lot of tourists dying while indulging in the outdoors.

Dangerous place, NZ.
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I'd love to know how our tourist death statistics look. There are certainly a good number of disastrous car crashes being caused by tourists and they are clearly seven times more likely to kill someone else than a local driver.

The pair of German chicks killed yesterday wasn't their fault! Our roads are death traps.

On the flip side, there seem to be a hell of a lot of tourists dying while indulging in the outdoors.

Dangerous place, NZ.
Speaking of German Tourists, Crocodiles over here seem to find them especially tasty.
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Speaking of German Tourists, Crocodiles over here seem to find them especially tasty.
Well, I'm not surprised.

If I had the choice of eating a Pommy or a Euro, I'd go Euro every time.

Whether I were a crocodile or not!
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Jesus, you're a lot older than I thought; Rutherford died in 1937!



Only the second bowler ever to be knighted!*



We have had a couple, and I refuse to count that stupid Kiri te Kanawa cow because she's a lying bitch and as far as I'm aware, her singing skills are ordinary compared to the great divas.

We have three former world mile record-holders, a former head of Jet Propulsion Lab, many other scientists whose Kiwiness has been ignored by many - including two other Nobel winners, a world-class, pioneering heart surgeon, an F1 world champ, Phar Lap, and architect of modern social welfare, Michael Joseph Savage, who was funnily enough born in Australia.

It's often said NZ boxes above its weight internationally, and I think the facts back it up. For a very small country (127th by population), we have a fine record of producing champion blokes and sheilas and not crowing about it. (barring rugby players, and I don't count them anyway)

*Francis Drake was the first.

The number of important things New Zealanders invented is quite astonishing. People always trot out stupid stuff like bungee jumping, the hamilton jet, and pavlova, but we actually invented a crazy range of hugely important things.

My nomination for our greatest inventor is Colin Murdoch. At the age of thirteen he was awarded the Royal Humane Society Medal for saving a man's life, and this pretty much acted as a forerunner of what was to come. Devoted to preserving the lives of people and animals, he trained as a pharmacist and veterinarian before beginning to produce some of the most important inventions in his field; the disposable syringe, the tranquilliser gun, and the child-proof medicine container. When he was developing the syringe he took it to the Department of Health who declined to provide financial backing as they felt the design was "too futuristic" and there was no demand for it. Today half a billion disposable syringes are used every year in the USA alone.

When it came to the tranquilliser gun, inventing a safer, less traumatic way to sedate animals was only the first step; at the time most animal sedatives were highly dangerous, and it was very common for animals to die. Murdoch worked with pharmaceutical companies to develop a host of new safer tranquillisers, tailored to different species.

If this wasn't enough, Murdoch never enforced any of his 46 patents as his view was that his inventions were being used to preserve the lives of humans and animals, and that was good enough.
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On the flip side, there seem to be a hell of a lot of tourists dying while indulging in the outdoors.

Dangerous place, NZ.

They underestimate it. They look at the height of our mountains and think it's no big deal because they've trekked in the Alps or the Rockies. What they don't realise is that New Zealand's geography makes for erratic weather; phenomenally erratic weather.
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Would anyone even notice a cyclone in Wellington? It's that bloody windy anyway...
There was this one time, in 1968, when Tropical Cyclone Giselle smashed the North Island and proceeded to reach Wellington where, on April 10th, it collided with a particularly nasty storm front coming up from Antarctica. Remember that whole "Frankenstorm" thing over New York or whatever they called it? Yup. One of those.

As it happened, right as the two storms met a ferry by the name of TEV Wahine was entering the harbour ex Lyttleton with 733 people aboard. Wind speeds nudged towards 300km/h. Bad things happened.
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The number of important things New Zealanders invented is quite astonishing. People always trot out stupid stuff like bungee jumping, the hamilton jet, and pavlova, but we actually invented a crazy range of hugely important things.

My nomination for our greatest inventor is Colin Murdoch. At the age of thirteen he was awarded the Royal Humane Society Medal for saving a man's life, and this pretty much acted as a forerunner of what was to come. Devoted to preserving the lives of people and animals, he trained as a pharmacist and veterinarian before beginning to produce some of the most important inventions in his field; the disposable syringe, the tranquilliser gun, and the child-proof medicine container. When he was developing the syringe he took it to the Department of Health who declined to provide financial backing as they felt the design was "too futuristic" and there was no demand for it. Today half a billion disposable syringes are used every year in the USA alone.

When it came to the tranquilliser gun, inventing a safer, less traumatic way to sedate animals was only the first step; at the time most animal sedatives were highly dangerous, and it was very common for animals to die. Murdoch worked with pharmaceutical companies to develop a host of new safer tranquillisers, tailored to different species.

If this wasn't enough, Murdoch never enforced any of his 46 patents as his view was that his inventions were being used to preserve the lives of humans and animals, and that was good enough.
And we didn't try to steal this genius? We must be slipping.
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Jesus, you're a lot older than I thought; Rutherford died in 1937!



Only the second bowler ever to be knighted!*



We have had a couple, and I refuse to count that stupid Kiri te Kanawa cow because she's a lying bitch and as far as I'm aware, her singing skills are ordinary compared to the great divas.

We have three former world mile record-holders, a former head of Jet Propulsion Lab, many other scientists whose Kiwiness has been ignored by many - including two other Nobel winners, a world-class, pioneering heart surgeon, an F1 world champ, Phar Lap, and architect of modern social welfare, Michael Joseph Savage, who was funnily enough born in Australia.

It's often said NZ boxes above its weight internationally, and I think the facts back it up. For a very small country (127th by population), we have a fine record of producing champion blokes and sheilas and not crowing about it. (barring rugby players, and I don't count them anyway)




*Francis Drake was the first.
Not old, just a fan of science, particularly Biology and Physics.

ETA: speaking of (offtopic warning), I visited Siding Springs Observatory last week, it was a great little stop. If you ever find yourself in central NSW The CSIRO Radio Telescope outside Parkes and Siding Springs are must visits if you like Astronomy. Siding Springs also happens to be in the middle of the Warrumbungle Range, a beautiful area of medium sized mountains and steep cliffs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siding_Spring_Observatory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrum..._National_Park
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkes_Observatory
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Not old, just a fan of science, particularly Biology and Physics.
As you know, I wa staking the piss - I do remember how old you are!

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ETA: speaking of (offtopic warning), I visited Siding Springs Observatory last week, it was a great little stop.
"Off-topic"?

You change the subject to Australia in the NZ thread? That's not off-topic, that's a capital offence over here, pal!

My boy (6 yo) was on a school trip to our local observatory yesterday.

Which was conveniently a couple of days after we'd been up at 4:30 am to look at the planets during their stunning display at the moment, so he was the information star.

There's nothing like viewing planets and nebulae through a telescope to get a little perspective on how insignificant we are. Love it!
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Martin Crowe gone

Lasted longer than I thought

At least he got to see the world cup at home
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Martin Crowe gone

Lasted longer than I thought

At least he got to see the world cup at home
Ditto - I expected him to be brown bread last year.

I think he had a young kid?
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Old 2nd March 2016, 11:05 PM   #630
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Ditto - I expected him to be brown bread last year.

I think he had a young kid?
Not sure.

Nice message from Russ'. Think Martin's dad was a bit of a father figure so they hung out together heaps
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Old 3rd March 2016, 05:10 AM   #631
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Must surely be in the top 3 batsmen New Zealand ever produced?

In the top 50 test run scorers for New Zealand, only Williamson and John Reid have a higher average than him, and he scored 5 times as many runs as Reid.
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Yeah, Reid's career was a bit short to put him in the greats.

Glenn Turner is the other I'd have in there, along with Crowe and Williamson.

I don't think there are any other contenders, except maybe Bert Sutcliffe, and he was before my time. His average was low, but he did have the handicap of playing in a truly horrible team.
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Yeah, Reid's career was a bit short to put him in the greats.

Glenn Turner is the other I'd have in there, along with Crowe and Williamson.

I don't think there are any other contenders, except maybe Bert Sutcliffe, and he was before my time. His average was low, but he did have the handicap of playing in a truly horrible team.
Fleming was good, but not Crowe or Williamson good.
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Old 4th March 2016, 04:54 PM   #634
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Originally Posted by Damien Evans View Post
Must surely be in the top 3 batsmen New Zealand ever produced?

In the top 50 test run scorers for New Zealand, only Williamson and John Reid have a higher average than him, and he scored 5 times as many runs as Reid.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/austra...id=5;type=team
Definitely in the top 3 batsmen who's career NZ cricket managed not to ruin . I can't help but feel we left plenty of batsmen on the cutting room floor that never got a chance to become great thanks to poor management or having their flair trained out of them. Crowe's greatest achievement might be that he became a great batsmen in spite of NZ cricket lol.
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Apparently Crowe was taking weed at the end.

Geezes. Grow some balls and legalise medicinal.

It shouldn't even be news
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Couple of stories catching my eye at the moment:

Pre-Tasman Europeans.

A debate which has been going on all of my life, still bubbling away despite the complete lack of evidence. I have no real opinion on it; but there's a determined group who think it's real.

The Maori Council idea advocated by Andrew Judd, mayor of New Plymouth.

If you don't know, Judd asked for a referendum on having guaranteed Maori representation on the council. It was taken and defeated resoundingly, amid Judd receiving torrents of abuse for even suggesting the idea.

While I don't condone abuse, I'm not a fan of apartheid, so I don't like the idea of Maori wards.

I see Mike Hosking is now involved, saying that if Maori want to be on the council, they can stand for a seat just like everyone else. Unsurprisingly, some people have a problem with this.

Much as I despise Hosking as a revolting little right-wing piece of scum, I can't help but agree with him on this, and the idea that his comment is actionable is laughable.

It's reactions like the mass complaints about Hosking's comment that paints the Maori sovereignty/ToW debate as a farce.
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Apparently Labour are so desperate in the polls they have chosen to enter an MOU with the Greens

Neither can actually say what this means

Labour would need the greens anyway

The greens say they can still work with National

Labour says that they won't necessarily go with the greens

Utterly pointless
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Utterly pointless
That describes exactly the entire Labour Party in NZ.

I wrote a couple of weeks ago that unless Labour replaces Little with Stuart Nash immediately they may as well dissolve the party.
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The only way that Labour is going to become strong enough to topple National is to stop moving to the left and fight the Nats to reclaim the middle ground and station themselves as a Centre-Centre Left Party once more.
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I hear there was celebration in the Tron last night - winning the supreme Tony Award.

Congrats, Hamilton!
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