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Old 5th December 2019, 10:03 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by tanabear View Post
Because I have never seen the process experimentally replicated. If it is possible let's see a demolition company do it. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that it is possible? All the government propaganda you imbibe.
We arrive at the conclusion that the WTC collapses were possible in the real world application because we have empirical documentation on construction material properties and construction methods to corroborate real world observations of the actual event. The WTC attacks were the first instances of deranged people intentionally ramming planes into the upper stories of two sky scrapers at full speed. They are firsts for flash ignition of several stories. They are firsts for adding high velocity impact damage to the fire factor. Your idea that one needs a precedent to empirically prove is flawed and one dimensional. It is inconsiderate of data we already have available to us to make reasoned arguments to understand the engineering angle of the event
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Old 6th December 2019, 08:16 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by JSanderO View Post
ignorance (technical) led them to not understand what they saw. To them it was like a Hollywood production - special effects... which can make anything look real.

Soon they hopped on the bandwagon that these collapses were impossible without CD type assistance. And they were done.

These types are NOT interesting in learning or understanding... only in whatever justifications they can come up with including the bogus material injected into the discussion but the likes of Szamboti, Ross, Cole, Harrit, Jones, et al and most recently Hulsey... who present flawed analysis which seems to only fool the people who WANT to believe it and be fooled.

These collapses were chaotic and had large elements of randomness, lack of hard data sets from transducers. All the explanations were educated "guesses" and some better than others but most with internal consistency. That is to say there was no single path or chain of events. These collapses unfolded like an avalanche.

It's been apparent for years now that they are unwilling to learn, unwilling to discuss and stipulate to facts, unwilling to accept anything that in anyway resembles how the events were described by "official" sources. You can't change minds which are clapped shut. Why even try?
Exactly, like many Conspiracy theorists.
A simple IBM punch Card Proved Birtherism wrong yet the continued the lies for years for political gain.
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