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10th September 2014, 09:17 AM | #1 |
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Don't mean to drone on but
I'm coveting a aerial camera platform, a quadcopter with a HD camera, a so called drone.
My interest is to make it part of my video production service and use it to make money. What do ya think, get one now and wait out the FAA's restrictions that are supposed to be changed next year or wait and see what the reg's are and what kind of license, fees, certifications, yada yada. |
10th September 2014, 03:56 PM | #2 |
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I wants one too.
But the problem is not the F.A.A. The problem is the W.I.F.E. |
10th September 2014, 04:07 PM | #3 |
I would save the receptionist.
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So, you want the drone to do, like, crane shots at weddings or what exactly?
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10th September 2014, 06:38 PM | #4 |
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Interested too. No problem with F.A.A., W.I.F.E. manageable as long as she sees the bill only after seeing some good footage. M.O.N.E.Y., on the other hand...
I want for nature shots; tree canopies, tall rock outcrops, cliffs and cave mouths. Need tips! |
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My friend just bought a DJI Phantom Vision, which is a ready to fly quad/camera combo, pretty much everything one would need.
The pictures obtained by them are good, however many people seem to plump for a custom version - the same quad but with a gimbal and a GoPro camera. This effectively doubles the P.R.I.C.E but the resulting footage is absolutely breathtaking, rather than 'pretty good'. It also removes something called 'the jello effect', which is the subject for much discussion on drone photography forums. Phantom Vision footage:
Phantom with gimbal & GoPro footage:
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11th September 2014, 01:35 AM | #6 |
Now. Do it now.
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I want 5,000 large aerial platforms like these, but with much greater range and hours-long air-time deployed in African game areas immediately, to combat the poaching epidemic.
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11th September 2014, 02:36 AM | #7 |
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11th September 2014, 03:31 AM | #8 |
Now. Do it now.
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A small step in right direction. Thanks.
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11th September 2014, 03:50 AM | #9 |
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11th September 2014, 05:49 AM | #10 |
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I have a camera jib (crane).
the drone would be for a sweeping outdoor shots, flying dollies around moving cars, or aerial real estate videos. The jello thing is bad in the cheaper ones but you can buy or DIY a damping mount. The Phantom is one i'm looking at, the basic copter for 480.00, A GoPro 3 around 400.00, use the free flight app on my android tablet. The "Storm Drone" looks like a maybe, more modular that the Phantom, bit cheaper, has all the GPS features |
11th September 2014, 09:00 AM | #11 |
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I've AP'ing for many years. Airplanes are more versatile and have a greater visual range from the operator.. you can see them further away.
I have a large quad which flies well, carries two. One can be used for the aerial photos, the other for the FPV.. First Person View.. of where the drone is looking, transmitting that image to a ground station. Orientation at distance is a problem.. which end is the front!!!??? In an urban environment, retrieving from a rooftop after a misadventure with the controls or power can be a problem. For images of a particular location the hovering ability beats the airplane. They are noisier (more noticeable to the public) than an gliding plane. I mount cameras on tilting mounts that permit adjusting the aim from directly sideways to straight down in flight. I prefer the Mobius Keyfob camera to the GoPro.. smaller, lighter, and takes the same size images. The GoPro fisheye images are unsettling in the videos, as the horizon wobbles up and down like the edges of a pancake being tossed by the chef. . The first two images are from the quad. The second is right at the visual range limit.. the 3rd and 4th are from a plane, way further than a quad can be safely flown. The 5 shows one of the tilt mounts, looking sideways and down. .. https://vimeo.com/98235203 |
11th September 2014, 09:14 AM | #12 |
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11th September 2014, 09:27 AM | #13 |
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I'd say wait if you can. I think drones are in that stage where features, improvements and price drops are going to be coming fast and furious for the next couple of years.
Take a look at the upcoming Parrot Bebop drone .
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11th September 2014, 09:56 AM | #14 |
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OMFG; I-Ratant I like you better already
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11th September 2014, 10:36 AM | #15 |
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The GoPro on the tilting mount. Servo is on the rudder channel for 90 degrees of movement
Some GoPro images... each one needs to be de-fisheyed, which is a PITA. I set the camera either for continous video or sequential images in flight, rather than fool with a servo to snap the picture. |
11th September 2014, 10:40 AM | #16 |
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11th September 2014, 11:12 AM | #17 |
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I've tried the FPV flight.. didn't like it. I HAVE to see the airplane!
FPV is best used with the airborne camera bore-sighted to the same center of view as the photo camera, and the FPV guy using that to tell the pilot where to fly to for the image he wants. Really takes two people to be safe. One only flies the device, keeping it in visual range all the time, while the camera user watches the FPV image. |
11th September 2014, 11:41 AM | #18 |
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Lots of information on aerial photography
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/aeros...FobCameras.htm |
11th September 2014, 03:37 PM | #19 |
I would save the receptionist.
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Now I want a drone. I have no use for a drone, but I want one.
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11th September 2014, 05:38 PM | #20 |
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Modern electrical geniuses have come up with 3-axis gyros for flight stabilization that are almost too small to see!
Even the smallest quads have these! For a newbie to r/c flight, the gyro is indispensible! And there's add-ons with gyros that work on airplanes also. Here's six quads... the largest carries two Mobius cameras..the next largest on the left is probably the smallest practical size for AP work, carrying an 808 Keyfob camera with the case removed. |
11th September 2014, 05:56 PM | #21 |
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12th September 2014, 07:50 AM | #22 |
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MeOUCH!
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12th September 2014, 08:51 AM | #24 |
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12th September 2014, 11:04 AM | #25 |
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Come on, the cat will be fine
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I have linked to this TED video before. It shows what can be done with quads using control theory and some fancy algorithms.
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Whatever you do, please follow the laws of the land and don't mess it up for us hobbiests.
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