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Old 21st October 2017, 02:12 PM   #1
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Alex Jones products apparently filled with lead

The man who constantly claims that the "elites" are poisoning us is apparently poisoning his own listeners. I guess he is part of the population control.

http://www.ceh.org/news-events/press...s-supplements/
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Old 21st October 2017, 04:50 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Jerrymander View Post
The man who constantly claims that the "elites" are poisoning us is apparently poisoning his own listeners. I guess he is part of the population control.

http://www.ceh.org/news-events/press...s-supplements/
This explains so much.

Lead poisoning for Alex Jones.
Assuming he uses his own products.

How will he spin this?


Can't wait for Stephen Colbert to hear about it.
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Old 21st October 2017, 05:25 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
This explains so much.

Lead poisoning for Alex Jones.
Assuming he uses his own products.

How will he spin this?


Can't wait for Stephen Colbert to hear about it.
I suspect he might... or at least other comparable bodybuilder type products.

I'd never paid him much attention, certainly don't recall seeing him outside the studio environment. Apparently he's a real would-be out-doorsy, shirtless on horseseback he-man. With a bit of a pudge.

Remind you of anyone?

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Screw those job-killing lead regulations!!!
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
This explains so much.

Lead poisoning for Alex Jones.
Assuming he uses his own products...

Lead poisoning leads to weight loss, so I'm guessing he doesn't.
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Old 21st October 2017, 08:48 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Jerrymander View Post
The man who constantly claims that the "elites" are poisoning us is apparently poisoning his own listeners. I guess he is part of the population control.

http://www.ceh.org/news-events/press...s-supplements/
I certainly do not in any way dislike the idea of Alex Jones and all his ilk being filled with lead. I believe I should quite encourage it!!!!!!!
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Old 21st October 2017, 09:19 PM   #7
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I certainly do not in any way dislike the idea of Alex Jones and all his ilk being filled with lead. I believe I should quite encourage it!!!!!!!
They're already a waste of oxygen, why waste other elements on them?
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Old 22nd October 2017, 09:20 AM   #8
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Lead to make Alex Jones listeners even dumber than they are? Talk about gilding the lily!
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
How will he spin this?
The Elites are trying to shut him down! Quick, buy more Infowars crap to support Alex's fight for freedom and liberty!

(And seriously, if this appeals to you, please do buy more. It'll be good for all of us in the long run.)
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Old 22nd October 2017, 09:48 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by timhau View Post
The Elites are trying to shut him down! Quick, buy more Infowars crap to support Alex's fight for freedom and liberty!

(And seriously, if this appeals to you, please do buy more. It'll be good for all of us in the long run.)
That's what I thought too.

"It's the coastal elites and their lying science!"
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
That's what I thought too.

"It's the coastal elites and their lying science!"

Actually, my first thought was point of manufacture, but I couldn't find that on his site. Of course it could be anywhere, even here, but lead made me think China.

Either way... he'll say the left is tainting his supply chain.
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Old 22nd October 2017, 01:56 PM   #12
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It's a little ironic we can call Jones a "Snake Oil Salesman" in the most literal meaning of the term.
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Cheap manufacturer who doesn't vet their supply chain or test their raws.

I mean, Freedom!
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Old 23rd October 2017, 10:32 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
Cheap manufacturer who doesn't vet their supply chain or test their raws.

I mean, Freedom!

As a vaper, I'm constantly bombarded with rabidly anti-gov conservative views in the forums. It's how they roll.

One of the absolutely most common is... the FDA is evil, the FDA is corrupt, the FDA is worse than useless, the FDA is dangerous, and of course, the FDA should be eliminated.

Arguing is pointless, but my first thought is always... wonder how many of us (esp. us over say 50) would be dead or ill/disabled without the gov't regs or intervention of the FDA?

Sorry guys but... we're a very large population with a sizeable number who are money-grubbing profiteers with no compunctions over what happens to customers if they can get away with it (the global market meltdown is a perfect example from the financial sector).

Our gov't can be onerous, frequently is, and keeping that controlled is a good thing, but I damn sure don't care for a free-for-all version lacking any and all oversight.

None of this probably applies to Jones though, thanks to the lobbyist driven supplements exclusions.

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Old 23rd October 2017, 11:39 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
None of this probably applies to Jones though, thanks to the lobbyist driven supplements exclusions.
Actually it does. Supplement manufacturers are audited by the FDA to make certain that they are following Good Manufacturing Processes, which includes having some control over their incoming raws and outgoing products before they are released.

Yet, it is possible for a new manufacturer or particularly unscrupulous one to let things slide quite a bit before the FDA catches it in one of their audits. The audits are somewhat annual in nature. Also, they don't audit every product, just a random sampling so they can see that the processes are being followed.

If you want to see how your favorite supplement is doing under the FDA you can google the name of the supplement brand and "FDA Warning Letter" to see if they have bent the rules. Many warning letters have to do with disagreements over labels or paperwork, but occasionally they cover ingredients or manufacturing processes. The warning letters are often addressed to the manufacturer, but should include the names of products that were singled out during the audit.

ETA: Not to trample on your rant. I liked it.
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Old 23rd October 2017, 12:48 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
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ETA: Not to trample on your rant. I liked it.

Not at all, I enjoyed the education.
Surprised they have much of any oversight, they seem pretty hamstrung in the vitamin/dietary supplement sector, so anything helps.

Considering the nauseating level of Trump-love from the more vocal in the vape world, as well as the not-quite-xenophobic but loudly anti-EU, anti-UN, and frequent mentions of the "globalist agenda"... I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few are InfoWars fans.

I'd love to see the cognitive dissonance over this revelation.
(eta: Though I suspect "caveat emptor" would find its way in there.)
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Originally Posted by Jerrymander View Post
The man who constantly claims that the "elites" are poisoning us is apparently poisoning his own listeners. I guess he is part of the population control.

http://www.ceh.org/news-events/press...s-supplements/
His followers will probably say something like "THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA IS LYING!!! "THEY" KNOW THAT ALEX KNOWS TOO MUCH, SO THEY'RE MAKING UP LIES TO GET HIM IN JAIL AND EVENTUALLY HE WILL BE THE 1ST ONE TO GET DEPORTED TO THE FEMA DEATH CAMPS!!!!!111 OPEN YER EYES, SHEEPLE!!!!11ONE" (since CTers type with Caps Lock on...).

Btw, what does his biggest follower, Donald Chump, have to say about this (if he tweeted anything at all about this matter...)?
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Btw, what does his biggest follower, Donald Chump, have to say about this (if he tweeted anything at all about this matter...)?

"FAKE NEWS LINKS LEAD POISONING TO DEPRESSION. SAD!"
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Sperm-damaging Lead Found in Alex Jones Infowars Dietary Supplements

Memo to Mr Jones: "put lead in one's pencil" is a figurative expression.
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Originally Posted by snoop_doxie View Post
That's what I thought too.

"It's the coastal elites and their lying science!"
"For years the mainstream scientists have hidden and lied about the regenerative properties of LEAD! They want to make you believe it is a poison and have demonised it for years, hiding the real truth about it. Now they are trying to prevent you from getting it in your supplements because they know its healing and brain enhancing powers will result in those using it in being healthy and having greater mental ability. Not only that but you know how lead stops radio waves, taking more lead helps to for a protective barrier in your brain. So don't stop buying your Alex Jones Lead Enhanced Supplements, and demand more lead in your diet and keep your mind safe from the Government's mind control rays!"
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Nice ad:

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Actually, what they really need is CWC Labs certification of their entire product line, where I test and affirm each production lot and post those results independently, on CWClabs.com.
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The comments are predictably nauseating, but I did get far enough to see one saying Jones has previously claimed his product line is tested and certified as Cali Code 65 compliant.

If true... oops.

And to be honest... this was more a larf than an outraged concern to me.
If there's been the claimed massive attack over this by the MSM... I've missed it entirely. PPB limits are meant to be low (esp. in CA, I get it)... and these two products are only about six times over. Ooooh... scary.

But sure... I'll listen to the Health Ranger, and his fans who claim Cal. agriculture is tainted with Fukushima radiation.

Of course.. Health Ranger (that hero, and check out his apropos of nothing boasts about his mixed race heritage) has a patented Cesium removal device.
I haven't looked into the utility or effectiveness... but I'm not rushing to buy one.
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Of course.. Health Ranger (that hero, and check out his apropos of nothing boasts about his mixed race heritage) has a patented Cesium removal device.
I haven't looked into the utility or effectiveness... but I'm not rushing to buy one.


It's not a device, it's a nutritional supplement!

https://www.google.com/patents/US9526751

And he has two patents!

https://www.google.com/patents/US9439939

Both have main independent claims that are directed to "1. A dietary supplement composition, consisting of:
Powdered ingredients encapsulated in a water-soluble vegetable capsule and consisting of:...."

The claims don't actually recite the intended use as a means for eliminating cesium or other heavy metals from your diet, which means the examiner never really evaluated the utility of the supplement for that purpose. So long as the examiner figured it had some nutritional value, it passed. You can look up the patent prosecution here and see that the examiner cited several prior art supplements that seemed to be used as animal feeds, meaning the combination of these particular ingredients has at least some nominal utility.

Of course, he'll never tell his customers any of that.
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It's not a device, it's a nutritional supplement!

https://www.google.com/patents/US9526751

And he has two patents!

https://www.google.com/patents/US9439939

Both have main independent claims that are directed to "1. A dietary supplement composition, consisting of:
Powdered ingredients encapsulated in a water-soluble vegetable capsule and consisting of:...."

The claims don't actually recite the intended use as a means for eliminating cesium or other heavy metals from your diet, which means the examiner never really evaluated the utility of the supplement for that purpose. So long as the examiner figured it had some nutritional value, it passed. You can look up the patent prosecution here and see that the examiner cited several prior art supplements that seemed to be used as animal feeds, meaning the combination of these particular ingredients has at least some nominal utility.

Of course, he'll never tell his customers any of that.

There's some irony to the idea they treat their customers as livestock, one might even say... sheep.
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