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Old 21st September 2018, 12:27 AM   #201
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I can't imagine there will be much more to add, once the high court announces the verdict. As the case has been decided in the county and high courts, an appeal to the supreme court would require permission from the Appeals Permission Board, and on the face of it I can't imagine what would cause them to approve it.

As it's only the sentence that has been appealed, we already know that Peter Madsen will be going away for a very long time (by Danish standards, anyway), and if the case of Peter Lundin is anything to go by, only the tabloids will take a remote interest in the future happenings around him.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 05:28 AM   #202
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The tabloids will continue to supply you with what they consider it to be your 'right to know': new girlfriends, assaults by other inmates etc.
Peter Madsen overfaldet i fængslet: Sådan skete det (Sep. 6, 2018) "Peter Madsen attacked in jail: This is what happened"
Peter Lundin overfaldet igen (Apr. 16, 2002) "Peter Lundin attacked again"
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Old 22nd September 2018, 08:13 AM   #203
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Which I why I don't bother with tabloids in the first place.

It's polishing my own halo perhaps, but I haven't read Ekstra Bladet or been to their website for well over 3 years now.
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Old 22nd September 2018, 10:19 AM   #204
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I think it's important to know what the majority of the population read and watch. And in the case of guys like Peter Madsen and Peter Lundin, there are actually aspects of their personalities and behaviour that aren't really covered by serious newsmedia, all the sloppy details that make them what they are. There are even aspects of the penal system in Denmark that you also wouldn't know about if you read only Information or Weekendavisen. They may tell you every little detail about people like Milena Penkowa, but the details in cases like that are of little concern to the people who read the tabloids. They have nothing to do with that world.
People of a certain class don't really need to know about those details in the cases of Peter Madsen and Peter Lundin. And, unfortunately, people of the lower classes tend to revel in them and lose sight of the bigger picture. There's a reason why ordinary people love to read about outlaw bikers, which is the reason why tabloids like Ekstra Bladet are full of stories about them - and often behind pay walls because people are so eager to read about them.
The current gang shoot outs (in peaceful Denmark) take place at Nørrebro, not Gentofte ...
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Old 22nd September 2018, 03:44 PM   #205
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Just to set the record straight, I'm currently living in Vollsmose and working a lower class job that is under a beginning threat of automation. I don't read either Information or Weekendavision, I get my news from Jyllands-Posten and DR. My decision not to read Ekstra Bladet has nothing to do with class snobbery, it's a decision based on some of their editiorial decisions over the years, which eventually culminated in my decision to boycott them.
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Old 23rd September 2018, 12:15 AM   #206
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You misunderstand me if you think that what I described was class snobbery. For instance, I don't see my colleagues reading B.T. or Ekstra Bladet, not because they are snobs, but because they just aren't interested in the things they write about. (In the teachers' lounge we have Politiken, Berlingske and Information.)

Recently, I have been pretty disappointed with the Danish media in general. They very soon picked up the stories in the New York Times about alleged microwave weapons in Cuba and one week later when NBC News claimed that Russia was behind the attacks, but when the Washington Post interviewed actual scientists about the validity of the microwave idea, it wasn't mentioned in the Danish papers at all (= I haven't found it anywhere).

And this is how DR treated it: Forskere mistænker mikrobølgevåben i sagen om mystiske hjerneskader hos diplomater i Cuba (Sep. 3, 2018) They didn't mention it one week later when the WP debunked the story.
Ingeniøren is the only one that has been consistently reliable in this context: Forskere graver i lydangreb på amerikanske diplomater (April 23, 2018) Not because they are interested in Cuba-U.S relations, but because they are interested in the technological implications of the different ideas that have been presented!

And it's probably not even a question of bias when DR doesn't follow up on the NYT story. It's probably a lack of interest: 'It's Cuba. Who really cares what's going on?!'
In the USA, the Miami Herald has presented news about this case that you wouldn't find in other newspapers. Not because they are biased in favour of Cuba in Miami. On the contrary. But they are interested enough in the theme to do a little investigative journalism so they discover things that other newspapers just don't care enough about. Reporting what Tillerson or Pompeo claims seems to be what journalism amounts to in most cases.
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Old 26th September 2018, 06:02 AM   #207
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The high court has confirmed the sentence of life imprisonment.
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Old 26th September 2018, 11:54 PM   #208
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He also has to pay reparations to Kim Wall's parents and her fiancee.
Danish appeals court upholds submarine killer's life sentence (The Local, Sep. 26, 2018)
Kim Wall murder: Peter Madsen loses appeal against life term (BBC, Sep. 26, 2018)
Madsen’s life sentence to stand rules high court (CPH Post, Sep. 26, 2018)
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Old 11th October 2018, 07:58 AM   #209
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Hollywood Reporter today:

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Lindholm will dramatize the murder investigation of Swedish journalist Kim Wall, the so-called submarine murder, together with the man who solved it, homicide detective Jens Moller.
’Borgen,’ ’Mindhunter’ Writer Tobias Lindholm to Adapt Kim Wall Murder as Miniseries
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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