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Old 18th February 2021, 08:28 AM   #81
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"Assimilation" needs to be defined as well. Is a Hasidic Jew living in New York City assimilated or not?
Not likely. Nor is a Polygamist Mormon in Utah. Or a voodoo practitioner from down in the Luisiana Bayou.

Their Grandchildren have tended to be though.
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Old 18th February 2021, 08:40 AM   #82
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Tommy Robinson of 'England First' is Irish.

What happened?
History happened - sometimes with violence. Make that almost always with violence.
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Old 18th February 2021, 08:41 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by Distracted1 View Post
Not likely. Nor is a Polygamist Mormon in Utah. Or a voodoo practitioner from down in the Luisiana Bayou.

Their Grandchildren have tended to be though.
Now this is interesting. Can you define which culture you think should “assimilate” these three other cultures? And of course will you?
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Old 18th February 2021, 08:55 AM   #84
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And this problem.

People treat "cultures" as singular things when they aren't.

If a bunch of Klingons move to New York I don't care if they keep eating Gahg and sinking Klingon Opera, but I'm going to have to insist they stop having Bat'Leth duels in the street. It's not an all or nothing thing.
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Old 18th February 2021, 08:59 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
And this problem.

People treat "cultures" as singular things when they aren't.

If a bunch of Klingons move to New York I don't care if they keep eating Gahg and sinking Klingon Opera, but I'm going to have to insist they stop having Bat'Leth duels in the street. It's not an all or nothing thing.
I'm not sure if even the dogwhistler's think that. They certainly don't seem to mind having falafel shops on the corner. They just have it in their heads that the people who make the falafel will rape their white women and install sharia law.
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Old 18th February 2021, 09:02 AM   #86
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Clearly culture is uniquely identifiable types of pottery, everyone knows that.
Spoken like a holdover from the red-figures-on-black-pottery period. As a sophisticated black-figures-on-red-pottery person, I scoff at you. *scoff scoff*
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Old 18th February 2021, 09:30 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Spoken like a holdover from the red-figures-on-black-pottery period. As a sophisticated black-figures-on-red-pottery person, I scoff at you. *scoff scoff*
Your rims are so inelegantly shaped! And the geometry of your black figures!!!! Pah!!!
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Old 18th February 2021, 12:05 PM   #88
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
And this problem.

People treat "cultures" as singular things when they aren't.

If a bunch of Klingons move to New York I don't care if they keep eating Gahg and sinking Klingon Opera, but I'm going to have to insist they stop having Bat'Leth duels in the street. It's not an all or nothing thing.
But that opera stuff sounds strange not like my opera!
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Old 18th February 2021, 10:54 PM   #89
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Multiculturalism, does it work ?

You need to also define "work". Ask a simple question to a room full of skeptics and...

This thread reminds me of my childhood and having dinner at Gramma and Grampa's with all my Italian relatives shouting conversations with the person the furthest away from them at the table. Can't really follow any of it!
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Old 19th February 2021, 07:18 PM   #90
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Tommy Robinson of 'England First' is Irish.

What happened?
My mother was born in Stinchcombe reasonably close to Bledington (at least they are both in Gloucestershire). I guess I'm more multicultural than I thought I was.
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Old 21st February 2021, 12:24 PM   #91
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I think culture and ethnicity or at least the perception of differences there serves as a selection process. Humans have no natural predators other than each other. What better way to control H. sapiens than to have different varieties of humans suppress or war one another? Living in harmony seems to be pretty difficult even with language and the ability to think rationally.
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Old 21st February 2021, 12:51 PM   #92
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I'm betting the Neanderthals on what is now the British Isles had grunts that meant "Pah! These homo sapiens invaders are surely going to kill off our culture. Bloody foreigners! Why don't they go back where they came from! We really need a Nexit..."
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Old 21st February 2021, 12:54 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I'm betting the Neanderthals on what is now the British Isles had grunts that meant "Pah! These homo sapiens invaders are surely going to kill off our culture. Bloody foreigners! Why don't they go back where they came from! We really need a Nexit..."
They weren't wrong.
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Old 21st February 2021, 01:28 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I'm betting the Neanderthals on what is now the British Isles had grunts that meant "Pah! These homo sapiens invaders are surely going to kill off our culture. Bloody foreigners! Why don't they go back where they came from! We really need a Nexit..."
To be serious, perhaps Neanderthals didn't value culture as much as we did, so they were easily outcompeted/displaced. No art, no cave paintings by them. Neanderthal burial sites feature very little thoughtful construction or organization.
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To be serious, perhaps Neanderthals didn't value culture as much as we did, so they were easily outcompeted/displaced. No art, no cave paintings by them. Neanderthal burial sites feature very little thoughtful construction or organization.
Not so fast.
https://www.sapiens.org/archaeology/...art-discovery/
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Old 21st February 2021, 05:54 PM   #96
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"Thag" is a culture. Perhaps not a complex one, but a culture nonetheless.
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Old 25th February 2021, 09:45 AM   #97
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Did the OP ever come back?
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Old 25th February 2021, 09:58 AM   #98
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Did the OP ever come back?
He has been posting and starting other threads.
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Old 27th February 2021, 03:23 AM   #99
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He has been posting and starting other threads.
He maybe couldn't be bothered with the emotion based snark and diversions into neanderthal jokes.
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