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Old 5th September 2019, 05:29 PM   #121
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Also a payoff curve that represented, for example, "enough to drink, but not enough to drown in" would not be symmetrical, rather it would be skewed very strongly to the low end and would afford an interface strategy no advantage whatsoever.
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Old 5th September 2019, 05:54 PM   #122
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Also there is still the semantic issue.

Mark et al say a robot is using an interface strategy with the categories "good payoff, bad payoff", I say it is using a realist strategy with the categories "medium, not medium" and then mapping a behaviour to each.

What is the difference?
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Old 5th September 2019, 06:00 PM   #123
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The key question is, could it evolve to use the same basic mechanism to acquire a second resource where the payoff curve was symmetrical and concave up instead of down? In other words values around the middle of the range give the worse payoff.

Well of course it could. But if so then in what sense was it perceiving "good payoff,bad payoff" when it used that same mechanism earlier?
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Old 5th September 2019, 06:11 PM   #124
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The payoff function for the tokens is (0,1,3,6,9,10,9,6,3,1,0)

Say there is a second kind of token with the payoff function (10,9,6,3,1,0,1,3,6,,9,10)

How does a robot deal with this? It could use a separate categorising routine for each.

Or it could use the same routine to map them ("not medium", "medium") and then assign different behaviours to each token based on the same size assessment.

The second would obviously be the least cost path.
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