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Old 11th September 2019, 08:16 PM   #481
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
jesus christ, I give up
Or, alternately, you could at least try to explain yourself properly.

Why were you saying "The back panel is not important", unless you thought that someone thought it was important?
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Old 11th September 2019, 08:33 PM   #482
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You say that you are a code-cutter so you know that if someone comes to you with an insufficient specification then you have to go back to them and pose a series of questions to that you can gain enough clarity to design what you want.

The same thing applies here. You have an insufficient specification.

Steps 2 and 3 need a lot of clarification.

In the double slit experiment, for example an event might cause the interference pattern to disappear, or it might not depending on how that event happens. The electron colliding with the side of the slit might cause this or not depending on how the screen is set up.

So you really think that your terms "space-time enactor" or "state change" are enough for someone even get started on an equation for it? How?

When we try to ask questions to clarify this you become vague, evasive.

You need to state some clear criteria for this, even if you don't express it mathematically, you need to express it in a way that could be expressed mathematically.
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Old 11th September 2019, 08:51 PM   #483
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A polarizer, for example, might not even interact with photons that pass through. It interacts with photons that don't pass through, but they don't contribute to the final path.

So we have this process that can detect a polarizer in the possible paths of the particle, but this is something which may or may not interact with the particle, depending upon how the particle (which hasn't been created yet) is created.

And it will have to consider anything else in the possible paths that might interact or not interact depending on the properties of the particle yet to be created.

And there might be things that simply detect polarity without filtering any particular polarity out.

There might be things that destroy information about the polarity.

What is the criterion that is supposed to be considered about all of these things in order to make that "switch to physical" decision?

How would you expect someone to write an equation to embody that decision if you can't even answer questions about what that criterion would be?
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Old 11th September 2019, 10:15 PM   #484
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We could start simple with an example of your own choice.

A standard double slit experiment with photons and polarisers over each slit.

Have the polarisers oriented the same way and experimentally there is an interference pattern.

Turn one polariser 90% and experimentally there is no interference pattern.

Any photons that actually passed through have had no state change, they did not interact with the polarisers they have not been "acknowledged" by anything.

Give a rough overview of the criteria that the quantum field made to determine the switch to physical in the second case.
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Old 11th September 2019, 11:41 PM   #485
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
jesus christ, I give up
To give up, one must have first made an attempt....
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Old 12th September 2019, 01:42 AM   #486
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
I've given you the answer to the problem. You have to work back from it to get the math.
The answer is really 42. You have to work back from it to get the math.
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Old 12th September 2019, 03:15 AM   #487
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
jesus christ, I give up
Bravo!

This is the best posting from you that I have ever seen.
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Old 12th September 2019, 03:35 AM   #488
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Turn one polariser 90% and experimentally there is no interference pattern.


Percent? 90 Degrees!
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Old 12th September 2019, 05:02 AM   #489
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I don't think there should be a speed limit on unobserved light. Observed light has a speed limit due to spacetime.
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Old 12th September 2019, 05:17 AM   #490
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Originally Posted by pittsburghjoe View Post
I don't think there should be a speed limit on unobserved light. Observed light has a speed limit due to spacetime.
What exactly are you claiming that physics has got wrong that your ideas could correct?

I can only see that you have philosophical issues with existing theories, and in you want the world to operate like normal, except that you introduce one or more sentient beings to correct the philosophical issue.

It seems to me that Occam's Razor would cut away your additions, and the world would never know.

Well, Robin has devised an experiment that could decide if you are right, but we know this is not essential to you, and that if this was ever tried, you would just dismiss it anyway.
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Old 12th September 2019, 05:58 AM   #491
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What's wrong is that the two realms are not properly acknowledged. My ideas can give us a theory of everything.
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Old 12th September 2019, 06:27 AM   #492
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Not only has the OP failed to kill duality, they didn't even get duality worried.
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Old 12th September 2019, 06:31 AM   #493
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Duality is a wrong assumption of how reality works by not realizing the final panel doesn't count.

The state only swaps at its birth. ..or when multiple detectors are involved

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Old 12th September 2019, 06:38 AM   #494
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The only thing that's more dead-in-the-water than your "theory" is The Titanic.
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Old 12th September 2019, 07:00 AM   #495
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Not only has the OP failed to kill duality, they didn't even get duality worried.
Duality, not drowming. Waving.
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Old 12th September 2019, 07:03 AM   #496
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The problem I answered is "Where is the bridge between large and small?"
Yeah, but it was a wrong answer, based on a misunderstanding of the diffraction limit.
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Old 12th September 2019, 07:05 AM   #497
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It's becoming increasingly more frustrating trying to get through to you numbskulls. Just pretend I could be right for one minute and then later tell me I'm not on to something. I don't think that will happen.

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Old 12th September 2019, 07:07 AM   #498
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Yeah, but it was a wrong answer, based on a misunderstanding of the diffraction limit.
I don't care if the diffraction limit can change in certain situations. All I care about is the width of a virus. Abbes diffraction is not necessary for my theory.
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Old 12th September 2019, 07:21 AM   #499
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It's becoming increasingly more frustrating trying to get through to you numb-sculls. Just pretend I could be right for one minute and then later tell me I'm not on to something. I don't think that will happen.
You do more than enough pretending for everyone.
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Old 12th September 2019, 07:30 AM   #500
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I do like to pretend you aren't here.
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I do like to pretend you aren't here.
I'm sure most folks caught out pretending feel the same way about the folks they can't ********.
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I don't care if the diffraction limit can change in certain situations. All I care about is the width of a virus. Abbes diffraction is not necessary for my theory.
The diffraction limit sure seemed important to your theory when you were talking about the nice round number at ~0.3 micrometers.

The diffraction limit changes in every situation, though. There are as many diffraction limits as there are wavelength-aperture combinations. That nice round number you get at ~0.3 micrometers is one of a vast number of diffraction limits.

And what does the width of a virus have to do with anything? (Other than the fact that a virus is a classical structure observed at classical scales.)
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A virus width is the line where the object can not go into superposition. Spacetime claims it as its own. No swapping between realms is going to occur.
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Old 12th September 2019, 08:11 AM   #504
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Nobody tell Schrodinger.
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We are entering the Age of the Realms
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We are entering the Age of the Realms
But unfortunately for you, you're stuck in the river of denial floating on a boat of delusion.
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I'm here because I want told why I'm wrong ..not Dad jokes
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I'm here because I want told why I'm wrong ..not Dad jokes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
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I already said uncertainty and duality could falsify ..but I killed them for trying.
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I'm here because I want told why I'm wrong ..not Dad jokes
No. Chock up another lie on the tote board.

An individual looking for help in good faith doesn't start out with an assertion, they start out with questions.

You did no such thing.

IMO you're looking for validation. The fact you can't even mount a scientific argument for your "theory" (really mere opinion) without being led by the hand of another poster speaks volumes.
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I already said uncertainty and duality could falsify ..but I killed them for trying.
Are you a graduate of the Donald Trump school of science and deluded assertion?

You just doubled down on your failed "theory."
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Quantum physics is made of math. If you want to claim that it's wrong, you have to use math to do so. If you want to replace it with something of your own, you have to use math to do so. Until you master the math, you're just not doing quantum physics.

No need for math when you have a PhD in Cuzisayso Studies .
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No need for math when you have a PhD in Cuzisayso Studies .
From Liberty University?
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No need for math when you have a PhD in Cuzisayso Studies .
Or if your "theory" is that 6 + 12 = potato, therefor god exists! prove me wrong!
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I sacrificed two theories to a god so you could have a theory of everything.
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I sacrificed two theories to a god so you could have a theory of everything.
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Facts not in evidence.
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Tell my why I haven't succeeded in killing them?
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Tell my why I haven't succeeded in killing them?
It's the killer that must make the confession.

So, 'fess up.
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What's wrong is that the two realms are not properly acknowledged.
A philosophical failing, then. Nothing actually false about existing theories; You just do not like it.

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My ideas can give us a theory of everything.
You wish! So far you have just managed to introduce a magical being. Any theory with magical beings can produce a theory of everything. It is called "God in the gap".
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